Beretta M9


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fishblade2
June 17, 2012, 12:02 AM
I have just ran into this gun at a local gun store. How is this gun in weight (not so much for carrying but for just shooting), how many rounds does it hold, how is the accuracy, and how reliable is it? How does this gun compare to the Beretta 92FS? Is there any major differences. Anything positive or negative about the Beretta M9? thanks for all the help.

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HDCamel
June 17, 2012, 12:45 AM
Same as the 92FS except with a slightly different frame grip shape, straight dust cover, and 2-dot sights instead of typical 3-dot (unless it's the M9A1 which also has a rail).

It's mechanically identical and I think the slides all come off the same line and are even rollmarked "92FS". The M9 might have more polymer components(like a plastic guide rod) compared to the 92FS, but I'm not up to date on what Beretta is doing with the 92 line as a whole, so don't take my word for it.

YankeeFlyr
June 17, 2012, 01:54 AM
Yeah, all the functioning parts are interchangeable, just some external features like contours, etc. as was just mentioned.

All the same mags fit, spare parts kits, etc.

It's the same design.

RON in PA
June 17, 2012, 05:58 AM
It is meant to be a civilian clone of the military issue M9 with same dust cover shape and grip shape as well as similar markings.

Ash
June 17, 2012, 07:11 AM
I wonder why "civilian clone" and not simply M9? Is there a difference between this pistol and what is issued? Why not simply take that production and sell it also to the public as Colt once did? At one time, Colt, S&W, and others (Remington, Webley, lots of them), did not sell military arms to the public only because the military stuff had a much lower grade of finish, and these companies did not want the public to get the idea that a lower standard of finish was the norm.

Now, the military gear is the same finish as commercial stuff (sometimes military gear is better than commercial, my how times change). There is nothing about military side arms like the Beretta that make them illegal for civilians to own. Indeed, aside from a very small number, proportional to the total production, of handguns would ever fit outside the realm of ownership. That the US Government since Clinton determined that the military could no longer surplus its handguns to mere peons who work, pay taxes, and vote for their regimes does not change the fact that Beretta could easily take an M9 straight from the box, stamp a civilian serial number on it (in the event the government has set aside its own block of numbers, I don't know) and sell it, holster and all, to CDNN who could then sell it to me or another person.

Remington could sell complete US Sniper Rifles (in the same way Barret does) if they wanted to.

So, my question is this: Is there any difference at all, beyond perhaps serial number, between the Beretta M9 and the US Military's M9?

Robbins290
June 17, 2012, 07:41 AM
i have the baretta m9. and a friend has the 92fs. we took them apart together. and found out they are the exact same gun. besides markings, sights and dust cover. both had plastic guide rods. and i paid 100 more dollers for the m9 in a cardboard box as the 92fs came in a plastic box

Ash
June 17, 2012, 08:05 AM
It's amazing about markings, eh?

CZ came out with a compact 40 called the CZ-85 Compact. A very few of these were made, before CZ changed the stamping to CZ-75 Compact. Literally, the only difference is a 7 or an 8. I sold my 85 several years back and have regretted ever doing it. I don't want a 75, I want that 85. I recently replaced it with another 85 Compact, and paid market value for a 75 (perhaps it flew in under the radar?)

It is rare, especially because it was not done by CZ to make a rare model, but to introduce a new model and they quickly changed their mind, making it rare. That is my excuse in any case.

It appears this M9 costs no more to make, is a bit cheaper overall package because of the box, but they still get to charge more for it. But if it is an M9, that makes the difference. I could certainly not argue with that.

ApacheCoTodd
June 17, 2012, 09:35 AM
I bought an M-9 specifically to have a privately owned representative of a firearm I actually carried in the Army. When that mil-spec package came out I bought two as soon as I found out they were exactly as off the line service weapons and not in fact "clones".
I figure it's a great mate to my off the rack 1911, 1917, Victories, etc...

Mine have the metal guide rods by the way.

As far as your asking about round#s... Mine use the standard 15 rd mags but there're endless alternatives out there beyond 15.
Accuracy and reliability? Beyond average in accuracy and hasn't given a whit about what I feed it to date.

Devonai
June 17, 2012, 10:37 AM
Just FYI, the last M9 the Air Force issued me had 3-dot sights. They can be found in either configuration.

fishblade2
June 17, 2012, 03:03 PM
how many configurations are there out there exactly for the M9? What are the differences they offer?

psyopspec
June 17, 2012, 07:50 PM
how many configurations are there out there exactly for the M9? What are the differences they offer?

I'm not aware of any model differentiation or new naming convention, but the last pistol I was issued, a newer one judging by the finish, had 3-dot sights.

Additionally, I've seen both metal and plastic for guide rods, safeties, and triggers. Originally, all these parts were metal. Newer models have shown up with plastic, and my guess is that replacement parts will continue along that route. In a similar thread a while back, I also remember at least one poster in the military saying that they'd seen both straight and ramped dust covers.

ETA: A google search for "plastic M9 trigger" will find forum posts from folks have bought M9s with either.

Okiegunner
June 19, 2012, 12:49 AM
Long been a fan of the 92 model. Have an older 92f with metal guide rod and trigger. 20 round Mec-Gar magazine.

RON in PA
June 19, 2012, 05:38 AM
The guide rods may be solid plastic on newer guns, but what appears to be plastic triggers and safeties are actually plastic coated metal.

jscott
June 19, 2012, 06:00 AM
The guide rods may be solid plastic on newer guns, but what appears to be plastic triggers and safeties are actually plastic coated metal.

Really? Because I'm the armorer for our unit. I couldn't figure it out by inspection and I wanted to know so I cut a trigger in half about six months ago (with my Benchmade knife). It was plastic through and through.

Shipwreck
June 19, 2012, 06:56 AM
Really? Because I'm the armorer for our unit. I couldn't figure it out by inspection and I wanted to know so I cut a trigger in half about six months ago (with my Benchmade knife). It was plastic through and through.

Members at the Beretat Forum have melted the plastic and found a metal skeleton

jscott
June 19, 2012, 08:48 AM
Members at the Beretat Forum have melted the plastic and found a metal skeleton

That could very well be true. I did not cut apart the top of the trigger, where it is actually attached. I simply cut straight through at the midway point (where you would place your finger). There are no doubt several variations out there as well, but mine was mil-spec Army bulk parts.

psyopspec
June 19, 2012, 12:00 PM
Interesting. I always assumed they were plastic due too the "seem" that appears on the back. I'm not an engineer, but if I was going to dip or otherwise coat a part I'd try to do it in such a way as to make the texture look uniform. An easier way to check than cutting would be with a magnet (unless we're talking about aluminum...)

SpentCasing
June 19, 2012, 06:35 PM
Correct. They are metal skeletons with a polymer coating for anti-rust and self lubing properties. Here's what the skeletons look like. Enjoy.

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRevyACrKlEw_hFD6vAbk3-ITAdvAWTPe3Mxi2F_TPsRD_OLjzOog

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