The good the bad and the Bubba'd


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Gunnerboy
June 19, 2012, 08:41 AM
As the title implies lets see some of the nice sporterized the not so nice and the downright hacksaw and pipe wrench rifles, that were former military rifles.

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madcratebuilder
June 19, 2012, 09:30 AM
Some of the early reality TV gun smiths were slow on the learning curve.:what:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/Bubba_scope_mount.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/460-2.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/264-2.jpg

They continued to practice until they almost got it right.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/3a3cd025.jpg

hardluk1
June 19, 2012, 09:36 AM
Guess that last photos new life in the term -monkey see monkey do.

greenlion
June 19, 2012, 10:58 AM
SMLE.... Small Monkey Lee Enfield ?

"I can never find a comfortable position for my tail in the prone position"

greenlion
June 19, 2012, 11:03 AM
Eddie Izzard: "Monkey with a gun"

http://youtu.be/mmtX6Tj74oU

threoh8
June 19, 2012, 11:17 AM
Of course he became a sniper. He didn't have the knack for gorilla warfare.

Gunnerboy
June 19, 2012, 11:18 AM
oh my those poor arisakas.....

Tommygunn
June 19, 2012, 11:55 AM
Of course he became a sniper. He didn't have the knack for gorilla warfare. :scrutiny::scrutiny::rolleyes::rolleyes:

velocette
June 19, 2012, 01:16 PM
Hee's an M1 Carbine with a Fajen stock & a good blue job.
And a 1917 Enfield with about a years worth of work, nothing but hand tools used.

Roger

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/RogerS_photo/carbinear12-11003.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/RogerS_photo/carbinear12-11005.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/RogerS_photo/Enfielddone012.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/RogerS_photo/17Enfield001.jpg

Gunnerboy
June 19, 2012, 01:20 PM
Thats a nice looking carbine

Sky
June 19, 2012, 01:50 PM
http://youtu.be/4l6OEJyjesI

Sorry I do not have any pics of some Bubba jobs but do have a youtube video of a victory pose with an AK I found interesting.

hang fire
June 19, 2012, 02:28 PM
This is a MN carbine I got for 25 bucks. All I have done was scout scoped and put cheek piece on it. Shoots like a bat out of Hades for accurate with cast boolits.


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TANSTAAFL-2/A762x54Tula.jpg

dprice3844444
June 19, 2012, 02:35 PM
mad crate,moderator in training?

Moose458
June 19, 2012, 02:44 PM
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg92/Moose458/257288-R1-14-15.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg92/Moose458/257288-R1-16-17.jpg
Top is a Swedish Mauser, bottom is a Greman K98k into a scout rifle.

ThorinNNY
June 19, 2012, 02:59 PM
Madcrate
Middle pic the bolt with the boxed end wrench- beautiful and comes in handy if you need to repair your vehicle on the way home! LOL!

Cosmoline
June 19, 2012, 03:02 PM
madcratebuilder, I sure hope those tags are evidence stickers from the TRIAL which led to the CONVICTION of whoever did that! LOL Ten years for creating an unholy abomination.

Salmoneye
June 19, 2012, 05:10 PM
http://youtu.be/4l6OEJyjesI

Sorry I do not have any pics of some Bubba jobs but do have a youtube video of a victory pose with an AK I found interesting.

That was a promo clip for the latest 'Planet Of The Apes' movie...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rise_of_the_Planet_of_the_Apes

Loosenock
June 19, 2012, 05:30 PM
Here is a classic Sheridan "Blue Streak" 5mm pellet rifle I got at a pawn shop. It had really been "bubbatized".

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/loosenock/sheridan001.jpg

Rear sight of some sort.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/loosenock/sheridan002.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/loosenock/sheridan005.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/loosenock/sheridan004.jpg

I did what I could for it, filled the holes drilled in the stock and replaced the original sights. Then refinished it with the original 1920's Springfield Armory stock finish of 1/3s.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/loosenock/restoredc003.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/loosenock/restoredc002.jpg

Shoots like a dream....

Loose

browningguy
June 19, 2012, 09:42 PM
1891 Argentine Mauser.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/jcm9371/Rifles/1891mauser.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/jcm9371/Rifles/1891mauseraction.jpg

ol' scratch
June 19, 2012, 10:29 PM
My Grandfather purchased an Arisaka in the 50's from a veteran. He told me it was still in cosmoline. Intact mum, dust cover early rifle with intact rear fold out sight. He chopped the stock down and then realized Jap ammo was hard to come by. He has never even fired the rifle. It bothered him so much a few years ago after talking to me that he called a buddy who called a friend who called another friend. Arisakas of many different types have all started appearing at his house to use for parts. He hasn't paid a dime for them. He has 8 rifles now that have been given to him to repair his own, five of them have intact mums, three of the 8 are late war rifles :D. They range in condition from good to poor. I now have the parts to fix his blunder. :D I am even considering trying my hand at gunsmithing the worst of the bunch-an early war with piting and a destroyed stock. It spent most of its life in a basement.

wlewisiii
June 19, 2012, 10:41 PM
Here's my $100 Spanish Mauser. 1893 with about half the updates for 1916 applied by an arsenal at some point. Bubba did the usual shortening job on the stock. I keep pondering buying a new stock and maybe having a nice .257 Roberts barrel put on it but I never do. Once i put a taller front sight on for a 100 yard zero, it'll put 139 grain 7x57 where I want it to, all day long.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HyNU3aMQEpQ/S6GVk3MEbmI/AAAAAAAAC-o/nv584LGGwBc/s912/IMG_0650.JPG

My VZ24 scout rifle project, also in 7x57, is a much more slow and deliberate proposition. No pics yet.

Texan Scott
June 19, 2012, 10:56 PM
hang fire, what's the muzzle flash like on that mosin? can you see afterward? I'm not being facetious... i really wanna know if a scout- length mosin is doable.

Uncle Grinch
June 19, 2012, 11:24 PM
Here is a nice Carcano (for a change!)...

MCgunner
June 19, 2012, 11:58 PM
I love the box end bolt handle. :D

http://i25.tinypic.com/tasrba.jpg

gunnutery
June 20, 2012, 12:08 AM
Haha, that wrench bolt handle would've been awesome if it were a little more proportional.

mnrivrat
June 20, 2012, 12:10 AM
Nice muzzle flash hider on a Savage Model 24 :D

hang fire
June 20, 2012, 03:31 AM
Texan Scott: hang fire, what's the muzzle flash like on that mosin? can you see afterward? I'm not being facetious... i really wanna know if a scout- length mosin is doable.

With full power milsurp it is a nasty combination, concussion grenade, flame thrower, and a hard kicking Mexican jackass.

With heavy cast boolits just shy of 2,000 fps, it performs admirably, very accurate and is my dedicated truck gun.

Texan Scott
June 20, 2012, 05:37 AM
AH. no 16' monags for me then. still, i've seen some that were cut down to 24', and i've been thinking about doing one. just gotta find a good solid scope mount, b/c the rear sight is pretty useless when the front sight's gone... give it a few months, i might have one to add to the picture parade... it'd be my first bolt gun.

inclinebench
June 20, 2012, 09:35 AM
Sporterized K31. I bought it with a broken stock, so I decided to put together a deer hunting setup.

Carl N. Brown
June 20, 2012, 10:01 AM
@post 26: "Nice muzzle flash hider on a Savage Model 24 "

Looks to me like someone followed ATF recommendation on legalizing an illegally shortened 24. If you ask them, they tell you to add a permanent barrel extension or destroy the illegally short barrel; if they catch you, its a felony. That's why you occassionally find shotguns with puzzling additions (eg, a section of 10ga barrel or steel pipe brazed or welded over the end of a short 20ga).

On topic:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=34253&d=1137800354
The top rifle was a Type 53 Chinese Mosin Nagant carbine I bought from a private party with no upper handguard and the forward part of the forearm damaged beyond recovery. "Bubba" "sporterized" myself. The bottom rifle is a No.1 MkIII* fully sporterized I got in a trade.

303tom
June 20, 2012, 03:01 PM
Like this ?

Ian
June 20, 2012, 03:29 PM
Here's a real beaut that a friend of mine picked up:

http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/sportermauser11.jpg

It started life as a midwar German K98k, and had the scope, new iron sights, double set trigger and new stock added some time in the 1950s.

And how about this for a bad one:

http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/arisaka1.jpg

It was done officially by the Chinese military, but it's still a total bubba job. Think there's any chance those sights will do anything but make you hit the ground 25 feet in front of the muzzle?

Gunnerboy
June 20, 2012, 03:35 PM
^ :eek:

mberoose
June 20, 2012, 04:25 PM
I recently de-Bubba-paintjob'd a CX4 Storm. Layers of nasty latex paint & a flame job underneath. :barf:

http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss293/Blackballed84/b1-1.jpg

http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss293/Blackballed84/IMG00553-20120530-2026.jpg

http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss293/Blackballed84/IMG00587-20120601-2051.jpg

http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss293/Blackballed84/IMG00594-20120605-1151.jpg

All is well now.

gp911
June 20, 2012, 07:16 PM
Gorilla warfare! Ha! In 30 years kids being born today will see pics of Bubba'ed Mosins and SKSs and cringe like we do at all those sporterized mauser variants done in the 50's & 60's.

Deus Machina
June 20, 2012, 07:28 PM
Hey, that wrench-bolted one actually looks really skillfully done. Now if it was tastefully done...

Looks to me like someone followed ATF recommendation on legalizing an illegally shortened 24. If you ask them, they tell you to add a permanent barrel extension or destroy the illegally short barrel; if they catch you, its a felony. That's why you occassionally find shotguns with puzzling additions (eg, a section of 10ga barrel or steel pipe brazed or welded over the end of a short 20ga).

I've seen that before. My guess is they shortened it to 16" for the rifle barrel, and forgot the law about the shotgun. Or shortened it to 18" including the receiver portion. Or just measured it and cut on the wrong side of the line.
Heck, I don't know why these guys do anything, really. I'm a home-shop machinist, not a mallet-and-dremel gunsmith.

I do have a friend that wanted to scope his Mosin Nagant 91/30. Put on one of the rear-sight-replacement rails and couldn't get it to hold zero. So he got high see-through rings, drilled and tapped, and they wouldn't hold. So he broke out the welder.

It works great, but to look at it... :eek:

dubbleA
June 20, 2012, 07:36 PM
Not a milsurp but thumbing through my July American Rifleman I came across an ad for this "hunting tradition rifle". Built on the Mooseburg 4X4 it's a beauty:what:

http://americanlegacyfirearms.com/uploads/NRR--Full-Left-Forearm.jpg

headoftheholler
June 20, 2012, 07:44 PM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Not my cup of tea.
Now the K98 double trigger? Drop dead gorgeous!

303tom
June 21, 2012, 11:49 AM
This is the last of my Bubba`s...............

Robtattoo
June 21, 2012, 01:35 PM
The only scoped rifle I own......

Here's the old favorite .303

I bedded the action into the stock, shortened & recrowned the barrel to 19" & I had a local smith sort out the headspacing for Prvi Partisan brass.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/robtattoo/stuff004.jpg

tahunua001
June 21, 2012, 03:24 PM
I need to get a new camera so I can get my 3 enfields(2 sportered, ones a bubba) all next to eachother.

Tophernj
June 21, 2012, 09:32 PM
I just picked up a '76 Marlin 336 in 30-30. Looks like a monkey had taken the screws out one too many times. Add to that the fact that the gun lived on a salt water boat and you can imagine that some of the screws were pretty difficult to remove. So much so that on the one that holds the forearm on I had to tig a bolt to it to remove it. Very scary given that I don't weld all that well. Along with that, the bluing was "redone" with what looks like Testor's model paint. Anyway, I've broken it down and am now in the process of cleaning it all up and will refinish it to my liking. Won't re-blue as the steel is pretty pitted. Most likely a duracoat. Stocks are rough and will get sanded down and refinished as well.

Wish me luck.

C

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