It'd be cool to own a SIG SG550...


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HDCamel
June 20, 2012, 12:13 AM
Any options besides dropping 10k+ on a genuine pre-89 import or spending 2k on a SIG551-A1 and spending beaucoup money getting it fitted with an imported full-length barrel, handguards, and gas system?

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Fishbed77
June 20, 2012, 12:20 AM
The only other option I can think of is getting some of the more stupid laws repealed.

HDCamel
June 20, 2012, 12:28 AM
If only Sig Sauer would offer a full-length alongside their underwhelming carbine.

It sucks being in the full-length-rifle-loving minority sometimes.

YankeeFlyr
June 20, 2012, 03:17 AM
HDCamel, I hear ya...in the minority. Me, too.

Auto426
June 20, 2012, 04:04 AM
It's something I doubt we will ever see produced by Sig USA. 20" ARs are a rarity today, so Sig USA producing a rifle length variant of the 556 or an actual 550 copy will likely never happen.

nwilliams
June 20, 2012, 06:44 PM
There is no option without spending a lot of money.

The closest thing you can get for under $2k is a Sig 551-A1 but it's still only an American'zed version of the Sig 551 not the 550 and it doesn't even have a stamped receiver like the Swiss version does:(

You could theoretically buy a Sig 550 parts kit from Colorado Gun Sales and it will give you pretty much all the parts you will need to convert your Sig 551/556 rifle into almost an exact clone of the original 550 but the kit will cost you $2,700.

If you were to go the route of converting a Sig 556/551 into a 550 using the parts kit you still need to deal with keeping the gun 922r compliant which will only make your build more frustrating.

Ideally you would want to track down a Sig 556 stripped upper and 556 lower parts (hammer, trigger, sear) to give you some additional 922r compliance parts. The stripped receiver counts as the actual gun for your build and will require an FFL, between the 556 stripped upper and 556 lower parts you would have four 922r compliance parts. The barrel that comes with the 550 parts kit is US made so now you have five parts and I think you would only need one more US part after that to make the gun fully 922r compliant when the build is complete.

The good news is that the 550 parts kit has all the parts you will need in order to build a complete 550 upper using a stripped 556 upper receiver. The kit also comes with the original Swiss 550 lower and the 556 internals should work just fine in a Swiss made 550 lower. Assemble upper and lower receivers, put the two together and your end product would be as close to a genuine Sig PE90/550 that you will probably ever get without spending many thousands of dollars.

The bad news is this, good luck finding a Sig 556 stripped upper, the Sig 550 parts kits are rare and expensive and finally assembling both the lower and upper will probably be a bit labor intensive and require a bit of gunsmithing.

IMO if you want an inexpensive Sig 550 you're only real option at this point is to buy one of the new Sig 551-A1's or wait a while and perhaps Sig will give us a US made version of the Sig 550 or something close to it.

SpeedAKL
June 21, 2012, 11:32 AM
How close is the US-made 551-A1 to an original Swiss-made, semi-auto SIG 551 in terms of technical specs?

HDCamel
June 21, 2012, 12:19 PM
How close is the US-made 551-A1 to an original Swiss-made, semi-auto SIG 551 in terms of technical specs?
Who knows?
Since it's hard to get a genuine 550/551 there are really no actual comparisons out there. The 551-A1 uses a milled aluminum lower as opposed to the original's stamped steel one, but apparently SIG in Switzerland has started to produce aluminum lowers as well (though the military versions are all still steel I believe).

According to some Swiss guys I talked to (both of whom bought their 550s when they left the service), the actual SG 550s (while basically match-grade tack drivers) suffer from somewhat frequent FTEs which, as I understand, is one of the main problems people have with their SIG556s. So it seems that the originals really aren't anything special as far as service rifles go, they're just coveted because they're illegal.

Regardless, I want one.

SpeedAKL
June 21, 2012, 12:24 PM
Who knows?
Since it's hard to get a genuine 550/551 there are really no actual comparisons out there. The 551-A1 uses a milled aluminum lower as opposed to the original's stamped steel one, but apparently SIG in Switzerland has started to produce aluminum lowers as well (though the military versions are all still steel I believe).

According to some Swiss guys I talked to (both of whom bought their 550s when they left the service), the actual SG 550s (while basically match-grade tack drivers) suffer from somewhat frequent FTEs which, as I understand, is one of the main problems people have with their SIG556s. So it seems that the originals really aren't anything special as far as service rifles go, they're just coveted because they're illegal.

Regardless, I want one.
Interesting. There shouldn't be durability problems with a well-made milled aluminum receiver - authenticity is the only objection. Heck, the Kalashnikov fans see the milled AKs as creme de la creme versus the stamped guns (note: both are steel receivers). The gun community often views newer guns as inferior due to changes in materials and manufacturing techiques, but we often forget that these modern techniques offer far higher levels of precision and consistency than the processes used "back in the day".

ZEN.45
June 22, 2012, 06:32 AM
According to some Swiss guys I talked to (both of whom bought their 550s when they left the service), the actual SIG 550s (while basically match-grade tack drivers) suffer from somewhat frequent FTEs ...

Around here the SIG550 is probably the most popular rifle in that category (new ones cost about as much as a H&K MR556 and Swiss surplus ones are plenty and reasonably priced). I have never even heard of a SIG550/PE90/Stgw90 having a FTE, even though I also frequently visit a shooters forum with plenty of Swiss members.

The only criticism I encounter about the SIG550 are:
- brass ‘kisses’ behind the ejection port (cosmetic)
- rips/cuts in the soft plastic on the charging handle (cosmetic)
- weight
- charging handle close to mount when using an optic
- lack of accessories (although that is slowly improving)

The reliability and precision of the SIG550 are pretty much undisputed.

HDCamel
June 22, 2012, 11:44 AM
Around here the SIG550 is probably the most popular rifle in that category (new ones cost about as much as a H&K MR556 and Swiss surplus ones are plenty and reasonably priced). I have never even heard of a SIG550/PE90/Stgw90 having a FTE, even though I also frequently visit a shooters forum with plenty of Swiss members.

The only criticism I encounter about the SIG550 are:
- brass ‘kisses’ behind the ejection port (cosmetic)
- rips/cuts in the soft plastic on the charging handle (cosmetic)
- weight
- charging handle close to mount when using an optic
- lack of accessories (although that is slowly improving)

The reliability and precision of the SIG550 are pretty much undisputed.
Just saying what 2 Swiss guys out of the however many people (millions?) who have experience with SG 550s told me. According to them, the cuts on the charging handle plastic occur when a brass stovepipes and the mouth of the casing gets shoved into it. Usually, the rifle's action is strong enough to just punch the brass out of the way anyway, but sometimes it isn't.

Maybe they just got (comparatively) bad rifles.

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