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wetley49
June 20, 2012, 12:35 PM
Looking to get a smaller carry weapon for summertime here in Florida. I have the SR9c in my truck but it can be a bit much to carry wearing light shorts. Any suggestions? I don't want to go over $600 and would like a 9mm that can shoot +p ammo. The Lc9 is pretty cheap but I don't know if it can handle the hotter rounds. Thanks for any input.

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distra
June 20, 2012, 12:41 PM
Kahr CW9 or P380 work for me. I picked up the P380 used so the price was right and CW9 is just a nice shooting pistol that can easily be pocket carried. I've shot +p ammo through it and it handles it, but it's not something one would enjoy shooting a lot.

W L Johnson
June 20, 2012, 12:42 PM
Just checked and the LC9 only has a 3.12" barrel. Doubt you would see any benefit from using +p in a gun with a barrel that short anyway, other than more flash and noise. This would be true for anything small enough for pocket carry.

marb4
June 20, 2012, 01:11 PM
I recently got a Kahr CM9 for $377 shipped. Mine has near 1000 rounds through it (of all kinds of ammo) and has been problem free. Easily fits in the front pocket of jeans for shorts.

GCBurner
June 20, 2012, 02:54 PM
A "9mm Short" .380 would fit the bill, it's what I regularly carry in a pocket holster here in Fla. in the summer. I use a Kel-Tec P3AT, which runs 100% reliably with CCI Blazer 95gr. ammo, but the Ruger version is almost identical, if a few dollars more expensive. These little guns are very lightweight, and just disappear in a pocket. They DO require some practice getting used to the long double-action-only trigger pull, but once you get used to it, are plenty accurate enough for defensive use at 7 to 10 yards.

wetley49
June 20, 2012, 02:56 PM
Thanks for the info. I wasn't sure how +p would do out of the short barrels. Going to check on the kahr

GreyCoupe
June 20, 2012, 03:05 PM
Walther P5. You'll love it.

marb4
June 20, 2012, 03:17 PM
Speer makes a "short barrel" +p round for 9mm. Not sure of the exact difference between it and their regular +p. I use regular 124 grain +p in my CM9 and the felt recoil is definately more snappy than with standard pressure rounds but not unpleasent or unmanagable. Not sure of the actual increased energy on the receiving end but the gun is rated for +p so thats what I carry in it.

Esoxchaser
June 20, 2012, 03:20 PM
Kahr makes about the best pocket pistols on the market.

Cocked & Locked
June 21, 2012, 12:13 AM
Don't forget the Kel Tec PF9...light weight, small, thin, ugly, and inexpensive. Works good for me. Not as nice as some of the higher dollar pistols and not a "range gun"...carries easily.

Posing with 147 grain Winchester Silver Tip

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2169/3082611/6263277/403056555.jpg

RinkRat
June 21, 2012, 02:04 AM
Checkout the new S&W/M&P Shield. Comes in .40S&W and 9mm MSRP $449. Being the new hot item I've seen um for $450. to $500. at local gun shows heard of um going for $375. and up. Give it a while and it will be around $375. to $400. soon. Their just about the same size as a PF9 but a tad heaver side=by=side.

skoro
June 21, 2012, 09:05 AM
I have two pocket carry autos that I've used for the past four years. One is a KelTec PF-9, the other is a KelTec P3at. The PF-9 works well in jeans. But for summertime carry in the heat when I'm wearing shorts, it's the P3at, hands down.

WRGADog
June 21, 2012, 09:15 AM
Kahr P380, Kahr PM9, Beretta Nano, Kimber Solo. I purchased the Solo this week and haven't had the opportunity to go to the range. Of the others, my favorite is the Nano. The Beretta fits my hand better and I shoot it more accurately than the Kahrs. That said, the Kahrs are great pocket pistols. If you decide on the Kahr make sure you shoot the requisite number of rounds (200) before carrying for personal protection.

hardluk1
June 21, 2012, 09:34 AM
For a 9mm KT pf-9 and Kahr cm/pm9 series work well. CW9 and shield can push the limit to pockett carry. I have or had a pf-9 and now cm cw9 .

Fishbed77
June 21, 2012, 09:59 AM
I recently got a Kahr CM9 for $377 shipped. Mine has near 1000 rounds through it (of all kinds of ammo) and has been problem free. Easily fits in the front pocket of jeans for shorts

The CM9 is a fantastic choice. I got mine a few months ago on sale from Palmetto State Armory for $337 out the door.

Mine has been 100% reliable with all types/brands of ammo straight out of the box. It's also surprisingly soft-shooting for such a small 9mm.

W L Johnson
June 21, 2012, 10:50 AM
There's always the Rohrbaugh R9, it's pricey I know. It's my daily carry gun.
Here it is compared to my (now sold) Kel-Tec P3AT 380

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x383/WLJohnson1/IMGP6892-e.jpg?t=1328401834

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x383/WLJohnson1/IMGP6893-e.jpg?t=1328401694

ForumSurfer
June 21, 2012, 10:55 AM
I LOVE the Kahr cm9. It shoots like a glock/xd/m&p sub compact (no harsh kick like some guns it's size) but with a trigger pull that is long, smooth and light (feels like a ruger LCR trigger). They make smaller ones, but the cm9 is a real shooter and something you can run hard for 500 round sessions without leaving your hands reeling.

Shipwreck
June 21, 2012, 11:46 AM
S&W M&P Shield. I got one about 5 weeks ago after renting it. Sold my Kahr PM9 within a week.

I now have 1045 rounds thru my Shield. I am looking to get a 2nd one now.

I have owned many sub compacts over the years. This is the First one that I actually ENJOY shooting at the range. The recoil is less than expected (less than the PM9 I had). And, the gun is accurate. I even shoot it well all the way to 15 yards (the furthest my indoor range goes).

I pocket carry mine:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/mistershipwreck/pocket1.jpg



Here is a pic with the PM9 for comparison:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/mistershipwreck/kahrshield1.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/mistershipwreck/kahrshield2.jpg

ForumSurfer
June 21, 2012, 11:54 AM
Excellent pics, shipwreck. Would you mind posting pics of the side by side against each other from the back and top views?

Shipwreck
June 21, 2012, 01:43 PM
Excellent pics, shipwreck. Would you mind posting pics of the side by side against each other from the back and top views?

I wish I could - but as stated, I sold the PM9 within the first week of buying the Shield (after my first range trip). So, I can't take anymore pics. Those pics were taken before I sold the Kahr.

With the Slide stop sticking out on the kahr... If you include that, I think the Shield is actually thinner.

moxie
June 21, 2012, 05:42 PM
Another alternative is the Ruger LCR. I'm not a big guy but I carry the LCR in shorts or jeans front pockets all the time. I use an Uncle Mike's or a Nemesis pocket holster. Never been "made." The trigger and sights are excellent. The .38+P round is very respectable.

contender
June 21, 2012, 09:33 PM
still am a revolver man with an airweight in the pocket.

But I did get to try out a S&W BG380 on an extended range session. Very small, snag-free, minimal felt recoil and easy to control with quick follow-up shots. Point shooting is good, doing some acceptable work out to 20 yards was easy as it has excellent sights for a pocket auto. Down right enjoyable experience. http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_765772_-1_757892_757752_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

Who knows, this bottom feeder just might replace my J frame as it is certainly smaller and lighter and has more capacity and easier carry of reloads.

Then again, maybe not. Still trust the revolver above all else especially when comparing sub-compacts to J frames. But this BG380---very nice!

as for a 9mm, still have not had to chance to try a Beretta NANO. Sure want to.

CDR_Glock
June 22, 2012, 07:46 AM
I have 3 pocket carry pistols:

Ruger LCR 5 rounds 38+P
Sig Sauer P238 7+1, Buffalo Bore 90 grain +P
Sig Sauer P938 6+1 Hornady +P

Because of faster reloads with Semiautos and the flatter profile, I prefer the Sig Sauers. For now, I've been doing a two gun carry. It's comfortable and I prefer having a NY reload rather than reload with a magazine.

For your price point, though, I have read good things about the Shield. It may be worth a try.

bikerdoc
June 23, 2012, 09:01 AM
On 100 degree days I stick a Bersa 380 or a Smith 649 in my pocket.

needmorecowbell
June 23, 2012, 08:42 PM
I too wanted a 9mm that was a bit smaller and lighter than my SR9c and went with the CW9. Thin and light enough to carry IWB without noticing and fits in some larger pockets like cargo shorts. If you want it to fit in all pockets I'd get the CM9 or a 380. I liked the CW9 because you can get a full grip on it and I already had a P3AT and 642 for pocket.

The Lone Haranguer
June 23, 2012, 09:11 PM
I used a Kahr PM9 as a pocket gun. It was satisfactory once the bugs were worked out of it. Back then the CM9 wasn't available. The M&P Shield, however, might be viable as it is not substantially bigger. I like the shape of its trigger guard. The PM's would rub against the bottom of my trigger finger. Any of the above assume your pockets are large enough. Blue jeans pockets will be too small, not leaving room for you to get your fingers around the grip.

DAdams
June 24, 2012, 12:19 PM
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/dadams111/Gear/P1010004-1.jpg

Most Days EDC. Seecamp .380.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/dadams111/Handguns/P5030003.jpg

Once in awhile the PM9 although it's a bit big and heavy for the pocket IMO.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/dadams111/Handguns/163073_large.jpg


At 13.3 ounces and 38 spl plus P my number 2 prefered carry is the M&P 340.

hammerclaw56
June 24, 2012, 06:42 PM
I currently have a black pm9 DLC and it's one of the finest handguns I've ever owned , but would love to try a S&W shield but I live in Dunn N.C. And I can not find one . I'm kinda pissed off that these gun makers advertise there product that it's the best thing since sliced bread and you can't get your hands on one and trust me I own several handguns and I'm no rookie at this but you can not find there product. I have tried Fuquay Gun and Gold and they don't have them either , but do have a waiting list.Come on now S&W if you're going to adervertise it at least have it available.

YJake
June 24, 2012, 07:00 PM
S&W 642/442 No-Lock stoked with Buffalo Bore 158grn +P LSWCHP.

It works.

And if the Sig P938 doesn't have teething issues, it looks nice as well.

-Jake

bikerdoc
June 25, 2012, 08:57 AM
Smith 649

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg134/bikerdoc1948/IMG_1260.jpg

or Bersa 380 CC

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg134/bikerdoc1948/bersa380002.jpg

Hunter125
June 26, 2012, 10:39 PM
Biker doc, how do you like the Bersa CC? I am considering picking one up.

DesertVet
June 26, 2012, 11:20 PM
Use Smith & Wesson J frame 38spl steel & light weight versions.
I have Colt Pony Pocket Lite and Walther PPK but always felt 380 was lacking a bit.
Recently started carrying a Kahr PM9 that has been 100% reliable so far in a front pocket.
I can get away with Glock 26 or Glock 27 in pocket depending on what I am wearing.
J frame Smith & Wesson 38 Special is still my "go to" pocket pistol but I am REALLY liking and getting used to my Kahr PM9 as a pocket carry gun....750 flawless rounds so far & I was able to qualify to my Agency standards with it at 25 yards and under.
Kahr PM9 is becoming my new favorite small pistol.

Bob72
June 27, 2012, 05:16 AM
P938 is a very small weapon. Slightly larger than the P238. Has light recall . I have the Extreme model with the pinky extension in the 7rnd magazine. It comes with the 6 rnd mag as well. Ordered another 7 at about $32.00 from Pistols and Parts LLC. Good product and rapid service.

The Extreme arrived and I immediately took it downstairs to the range and fired about 65 rounds. One FTE. Took it home and cleaned it and found one grip screw missing and the others loose. Took it back to the store and they replaced the screw. Next day fired about 30 rounds, went home and cleaned it and saw that the recoil rod guide rod and unscrewed. Called Sig and they hadn't heard of the problem. Told me to put lock tight blue on it and if it happened again they would replace the rod. I am really concerned with quality control with Sig. Check your purchase carefully before walking out of the store.
Gun fires great though.accurate out to 15 yards and I can't shoot accurately much further than that with a small gun . I paid $675 with tax.

Bob72
June 27, 2012, 05:17 AM
P938 is a very small weapon. Slightly larger than the P238. Has light recall . I have the Extreme model with the pinky extension in the 7rnd magazine. It comes with the 6 rnd mag as well. Ordered another 7 at about $36.00 from Pistols and Parts LLC. Good product and rapid service.

The Extreme arrived and I immediately took it downstairs to the range and fired about 65 rounds. One FTE. Took it home and cleaned it and found one grip screw missing and the others loose. Took it back to the store and they replaced the screw. Next day fired about 30 rounds, went home and cleaned it and saw that the recoil rod guide rod and unscrewed. Called Sig and they hadn't heard of the problem. Told me to put lock tight blue on it and if it happened again they would replace the rod. I am really concerned with quality control with Sig. Check your purchase carefully before walking out of the store.
Gun fires great though.accurate out to 15 yards and I can't shoot accurately much further than that with a small gun . I paid $675 with tax.

kbbailey
June 27, 2012, 07:56 AM
I'm a revolver guy too, but I am drawn to a Colt Mustang Pocketlite like a moth to a flame.

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