Buds guns... Twice bitten
mopar92
June 21, 2012, 08:19 PM
Bought a pistol there last year, shipped 12 days after purchase. Bought a rifle this week, 7 days later no signs of processing. A member contacted me who used to work there and told me the deal. They get your money then you just wait while they have it drop shipped or whatever. That stinks. Guess that explains the delays. Oh well... Guess I've learned my lesson that cheaper isn't always the same.
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WardenWolf
June 21, 2012, 08:25 PM
If you're willing to wait, you can get some great prices. Good things come to those who wait.
OARNGESI
June 21, 2012, 08:26 PM
i bought 4 guns through them in the last year they all shipped in 7-10 days just like they stated when i ordered the gun. they were also very good at returning emails i got a response the following morning every time i had a problem or a question.
mopar92
June 21, 2012, 08:37 PM
I haven't even bugged them or called yet.. It's just a little annoying when people don't do what they say.
oneounceload
June 21, 2012, 08:46 PM
The drop-ship method has been there from th beginning - it is nothing new and as mentioned, if you are willing to be patient then the gun shows up.
PERSONALLY, my local FFL can order from a distributor and get it in two days for less than Buds - on anything I want
kcshooter
June 21, 2012, 09:12 PM
I've bought 3 guns from bud's so far, never had a complaint.
I'll wait 5 days extra to save $50 or more and not pay sales tax.
I'm cheap, and I'm patient. Probably more cheap than patient, really.
(I'd like to call myself "frugal", but that's like calling a crazy person "eccentric".)
TanklessPro
June 21, 2012, 09:38 PM
The drop-ship method has been there from th beginning - it is nothing new and as mentioned, if you are willing to be patient then the gun shows up.
PERSONALLY, my local FFL can order from a distributor and get it in two days for less than Buds - on anything I want
+1
I guess things are a little different down south.
sansone
June 21, 2012, 09:53 PM
maybe it is different here in the south, but local shops like mine have no problem matching bud's prices, or wallmart's prices. Any firearm, ammo or accessory. Only difference being no wait, no transfer fee & much better service
sonick808
June 21, 2012, 10:11 PM
I've noticed that if it's something fairly common, and they have it in stock, then it usually ships within a couple days. I've bought from them a couple times with good luck both times. I realize that I've probably lucked out though. Their prices are worth the wait IMO, I wouldn't have had any problems waiting up to 10 business days. Past that is a bit much.
TennJed
June 21, 2012, 10:12 PM
Bought a Remington R1 stainless 1911 there last month for $618 shipped. Paid late on a Monday night and my FFL had it on Thursday.
Can't beat that. I have seen two R1s locally and both have been over $725
ColtPythonElite
June 21, 2012, 11:05 PM
Time = money in my world. If I can save a few bucks I generally don't mind waiting for drop shipping.
mopar92
June 21, 2012, 11:09 PM
I tried to give 4 locals a crack at it and none were within $200... Guess I am just impatient !;)
Arp32
June 21, 2012, 11:31 PM
Bought a 5906 from Bud's, took about 3 days. Go figure.
Gordon_Freeman
June 21, 2012, 11:52 PM
My favorite shop does mail order. It usually takes a month or six weeks for the order to ship.
tompt
June 22, 2012, 02:01 AM
I haven't even bugged them or called yet.. It's just a little annoying when people don't do what they say.
Sorry if I missed it, but it's not clear what they said they would do that they haven't. Do they promise delivery faster than you've experienced? :confused:
RCArms.com
June 22, 2012, 02:17 AM
I've bought 3 guns from bud's so far, never had a complaint.
I'll wait 5 days extra to save $50 or more and not pay sales tax.
I'm cheap, and I'm patient. Probably more cheap than patient, really.
(I'd like to call myself "frugal", but that's like calling a crazy person "eccentric".)
Here in MN you are supposed to claim these kind of interstate purchases on your personal income taxes under the sales and use tax. 2011 was the first year that MN started to actively look at enforcing this because no-one really bothered to fill it out.
Also, lots of retailers are starting to make noises to close the "sales tax loophole" to level the playing field with out of state sellers.
Finally, one of our own firearm related auction sites is sending emails and looking to actively support the implementation of a national sales tax to eliminate the "advantage" of buying online from an out of state supplier.
While the tax advantage exists today, there are forces at work that are trying very hard to close that loophole.
Don
WardenWolf
June 22, 2012, 02:27 AM
Of course, "use" taxes are questionably Constitutional to begin with, considering they're taxing interstate commerce. Pretty sure they wouldn't past Constitutional muster since only Congress has that right. That's probably the primary reason states haven't really enforced them: there's a good chance they'd all be shot down if taken to Federal court.
TJx
June 22, 2012, 07:54 AM
I ordered a CZ 75 from Whittakers Guns early afternoon Monday, I picked it up Wednesday late afternoon.
We're both in KY but Priority Mail typically moves anywhere in the country in 2 days.
BBQLS1
June 22, 2012, 08:20 AM
What's the saying?
You can have it:
Done Right
Cheap
Fast
Just pick any two.
Ryanxia
June 22, 2012, 08:38 AM
PERSONALLY, my local FFL can order from a distributor and get it in two days for less than Buds - on anything I want
Same :D
Hunterdad
June 22, 2012, 09:16 AM
I ordered a RIA Tactical from Bud's a couple of months ago. Ordered on a Tuesday, received it that Friday. I would have waited longer to save what i saved.
Salmoneye
June 22, 2012, 09:19 AM
PERSONALLY, my local FFL can order from a distributor and get it in two days for less than Buds - on anything I want
Ayuh...
oneounceload
June 22, 2012, 09:51 AM
Of course, "use" taxes are questionably Constitutional to begin with, considering they're taxing interstate commerce. Pretty sure they wouldn't past Constitutional muster since only Congress has that right. That's probably the primary reason states haven't really enforced them: there's a good chance they'd all be shot down if taken to Federal court.
Totally legal and enforced on companies all the time. The loophole is with individuals not paying them voluntarily; thus several states have started to mandate that sales tax be collected, even from internet vendors in other locales
I worked procurement for a Western utility - we budgeted for, collected, and remitted the use tax on items from out of state - it was mandatory
Tim the student
June 22, 2012, 10:21 AM
PERSONALLY, my local FFL can order from a distributor and get it in two days for less than Buds - on anything I want
Do they ever do mail order business, or do they not want the hassle?
IslandTimes
June 22, 2012, 10:24 AM
My LGS advertises that they'll match or beat any price around. Last time I went in there I was contemplating buying a PX4 and asked if this policy was true. They said yes and I told them that Buds had it for $50 less. The guy looked at me like I was stupid and said there was no way he was going to meet Buds price. Apparently it was the one exception...
kcshooter
June 22, 2012, 10:35 AM
I tried to give 4 locals a crack at it and none were within $200So Bud's saved you $200 bucks but took a few extra days? You are impatient.
Next time, if the wait is that big of a deal to you, plunk down the extra $200 and walk away with it.
I bet the wait time means less than the money, am I right?
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I don't feel that you have the right to complain here.
mopar92
June 22, 2012, 11:22 AM
Kc shooter, I just expect people to do what they say..... They claim shipping inside 7 business days.... It's been over that now both times.... Guess I'm impatient because companies don't deliver what they say.... Do you do what you say or no? If you don't, that explains you siding with companies who also aren't honest....
Tim the student
June 22, 2012, 11:31 AM
They claim shipping inside 7 business days
Not that I have seen. I have seen them claim they "normally ship within 3-7 working days after we receive your payment and a copy of the Federal Firearms License." (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/shipping.php) Its a small distinction, but a very important one.
Hammerdown77
June 22, 2012, 11:35 AM
One thing I've noticed since Bud's went to that "VIP" membership crap....people are having more problems getting stuff they order on time. Unless they're a VIP member.
I've never had a problem with Bud's, but that was before the VIP program started.
buck460XVR
June 22, 2012, 11:44 AM
Not that I have seen. I have seen them claim they "normally ship within 3-7 working days after we receive your payment and a copy of the Federal Firearms License." (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/shipping.php) Its a small distinction, but a very important one.
Yes it is. I too am one of the lucky ones whose LGS can always match and many times beat online dealers in new gun prices. The words usually, generally and normally are all vague adjectives when it comes to describing customer service. If they would have stated "we always" or "guarantee" shipping within 7 days, then I'd be a bit miffed. 99% of the talk I hear of Bud's is positive, both here on the internet and from folks I know personally. As for waiting a few more days to save $200, 'ell, I do it in a heartbeat. I waited 3 months for my LGS to get a new 637 when they were hard to find cause their price was $90 less than the only other place I knew of that had 'em. ($360 compared to $450). I still feel it was worth it.
kcshooter
June 22, 2012, 11:45 AM
Ah, I see.
Now they, and myself inclusively because I find your complaining to be without merit, are dishonest. Because they took a couple extra days than they normally do, yet saved you $200.
Ordered on a Thursday or Friday, that would mean it would ship a week from the next Monday or Tuesday. 12 days. Yet only 7 business days. Are you claiming it took 12 BUSINESS days for them to ship, or just 12 days?
I take dishonesty seriously. I'm just not so sure they are the ones being dishonest in this situation.
As I said, if it's such a big deal to you, next time you should just spend the extra money.
fallout mike
June 22, 2012, 11:50 AM
I was about to post what kcshooter did. 7 business days could very well be 12 days. And that's assuming your ffl didn't wait 2-3 days to send over his ffl.
sixgunner455
June 22, 2012, 11:59 AM
You know, mail order houses used to say "allow 6-8 weeks for delivery".
I think we've all gotten more than a bit spoiled. You probably didn't even pay shipping on that gun.
mopar92
June 22, 2012, 12:07 PM
I paid $37 for shipping...
mopar92
June 22, 2012, 12:09 PM
I will spend the extra money from now on... I'll support that small store... It's not even in the " waiting to be shipped system " according to the email I got... Nice! :(
kcshooter
June 22, 2012, 12:10 PM
I paid $37 for shipping... Really? Because NOW you're claiming they are being dishonest about that tooThere are NO SHIPPING charges for firearms at BudsGunShop.com. The only exception being Long Guns shipped to Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico.
Are you in Alaska, Hawaii, or Puerto Rico? Did you buy insurance, or pay for expedited shipping?
If not, then SOMEBODY here is definitely being dishonest.
jcwit
June 22, 2012, 12:19 PM
Something seems amiss with the OP.
From Buds web site, scroll approx 1/4 of the way down.
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/shipping.php
fallout mike
June 22, 2012, 12:20 PM
Kcshooter, according to some of his for sale stuff he lives in Nashville, TN.
TennJed
June 22, 2012, 12:34 PM
Really? Because NOW you're claiming they are being dishonest about that too
Are you in Alaska, Hawaii, or Puerto Rico? Did you buy insurance, or pay for expedited shipping?
If not, then SOMEBODY here is definitely being dishonest.
Buds ships free but that is uninsured. If you want insured shipping there is a fee. I think most people will opt for the insurance.
On my $618 1911 I ordered I believe the shipping was $8. If I remember correctly.
I think they charge insurance based on the total sale price. If his gun was over 3k I could see the shipping as $37
fallout mike
June 22, 2012, 12:36 PM
So you are saying he paid $37 for insurance?
kcshooter
June 22, 2012, 12:40 PM
Yes, that was why I was asking if there were extenuating circumstances with the order. But unless he ordered a $3700 rifle, that doesn't seem to be congruent with their policies.Shipping insurance is offered at a rate of $1 per $100 ordered item(s) valueBUT, he stated he paid $37 for shipping, not for shipping insurance. I'm just looking for the clarification as to the discrepancies in the policies of Bud's and the OP's statements.
Especially since he is claiming a reputable dealer to dishonest.
As I said, I take dishonesty seriously, and would really like to find out who the dishonest party in the situation we have here is.
Also, according to his original post, made on a Thursday, it had been 7 days. So they have until this coming Monday to ship it and be true to their shipping policies, if my calculations are accurate.
ForumSurfer
June 22, 2012, 12:48 PM
I usually don't mind the wait. If I'm in a hurry, I'll pay a few bucks extra and buy it locally. If I order from Bud's, I expect a two week to three week time frame. It is what it is. Jetguns and other small retailers just work faster.
Dueling1911s
June 22, 2012, 12:49 PM
he could have been dinged with $37 charge for using a credit/debt card.
a lot of people don't realize that they advertize the cash/ electronic check price. they get nailed with 3% charge for debt/credit card and mistook it for a shipping charge
TennJed
June 22, 2012, 12:51 PM
So you are saying he paid $37 for insurance?
I think they charge insurance based on the total sale price. If his gun was over 3k I could see the shipping as $37
jcwit
June 22, 2012, 01:30 PM
Did someone get backed into a corner?
fallout mike
June 22, 2012, 01:30 PM
Nope, that would OPTIONAL insurance that he asked and paid for.
TennJed
June 22, 2012, 02:27 PM
Nope, that would OPTIONAL insurance that he asked and paid for.
True, as I stated in my first post I am a big fan of buds. My 1st transaction went very smoothly and I saved over 30%. Heck I even have a kahr cw45 on layaway with them currently.
I am just a little less quick to call the OP a dishonest person, since I do not know him. I am wondering if maybe we should not just point out where he was mistaken and show him our examples of positive experiences with buds so he might give them another chance.
I personally would say that I paid $8 shipping with Buds. You are correct that I actually paid for insurance, but I think a lot of people would just call it shipping and they are not trying to be dishonest
mopar92
June 22, 2012, 02:32 PM
You guys are funny.... You are making me, the buyer try to feel bad for paying up front .. You bet I definitely paid the insurance. But let me ask you this..... Do you not think Bud's figures in shipping? There's no such thing as free... Somebody pays for it. I bought a gun from a reputable seller years ago and it was never ever found... Guess who ate that cost? Me... I insure everything of this type of value. I guess I have higher standards than most.... Painted in a corner? Uhhh... I paid up front , how am I to blame for their slow shipping... One of you couldn't take a comment above for what it's worth and now scraping for every dig you can get.... Nice... Hhah that's funny.
mopar92
June 22, 2012, 02:49 PM
For those who say they " try to ship within 7 days"... That's not the way I read it.
"We have received all the information we need to process your order. Thank you. Your order will ship within 3-7 business days.
******If you have ordered a firearm we will send a copy of our FFL to your dealer with the gun along with an invoice with your name and phone number on it.***
***Orders containing multiple items can ship in multiple packages, in which event you will receive multiple tracking numbers. Please allow time to receive all tracking numbers. If you have any questions please contact us.***
You will also be receiving additional emails to update you on the progress as we continue to process and ship your order.
Thank you,
BudsGunShop.com
Please use the Contact Us feature on the website if you have questions about your order.
Our offices are open Monday-Friday 9am - 5pm EST. Please be aware that emails and phone calls are answered during these hours.
I think some of you all are more upset than I am... I'm not mad, I'm not pissed... I'm bummed that twice now it's taken days almost weeks longer to get an order.... If they said " ships in 10 days, I'd hold them to that too..." I don't want this to turn into a battle... I merely stated that as a multiple time buyer of them, be leary of their advertised shipping times.. They have good communication, prices, knowledgeable staff, etc... Just don't expect them to be on time... Enough said... I am done posting on this...
ErikO
June 22, 2012, 02:53 PM
I got my S&W M&P stripped lower on lay-away from Bud's before they changed their rules to firearms over $200. Showed up at my LGS, paid my transfer and my build is going nicely.
Their lay-away is what has me looking at their online inventory every so often. Since my credit rating sucks, lay-away is about the only way I can get stuff. Someday I'll be able to actually save up cash and just buy what I want when I see it, but that day is a bit further off.
RCArms.com
June 22, 2012, 04:23 PM
You guys are funny.... You are making me, the buyer try to feel bad for paying up front .. You bet I definitely paid the insurance. But let me ask you this..... Do you not think Bud's figures in shipping? There's no such thing as free... Somebody pays for it. I bought a gun from a reputable seller years ago and it was never ever found... Guess who ate that cost? Me... I insure everything of this type of value. I guess I have higher standards than most.... Painted in a corner? Uhhh... I paid up front , how am I to blame for their slow shipping... One of you couldn't take a comment above for what it's worth and now scraping for every dig you can get.... Nice... Hhah that's funny.
Most Credit Card Merchant accounts have a requirement for shipping times once a customer transaction has been batched and cleared. Charging a customer for an item that is out of stock before you place an order with your vendor is a very bad practice and likely against their contract with their merchant account provider.
As for "free shipping", you are correct, someone ends up paying for that. I treat shipping & handling costs on my firearm sales as an additional line item that bills the customer. Typically it's $35.00 which covers shipping, signature delivery, and full value insurance.
I price the guns I sell for what they are and the shipping is what it is. I also do not sell items that I am not in possession of. It's just not in my customer's best interests to operate like that.
Don
hemiram
June 23, 2012, 02:03 AM
I've bought 4 guns from Bud's and the longest I waited was 6 days and the shortest was 3. The prices were great and the two used guns were totally as described.
45bthompson
June 23, 2012, 03:03 AM
Well i doubt the OP was planning on advertising for bud's but I really feel like ordering a new gun! My son turns 1 on july 14th. Is that a good enough reason?
Twmaster
June 23, 2012, 04:05 AM
Yes. Good enough reason.
I've bought one rifle from Bud's. While it took longer than I would have liked the service was as they quoted. 7-10 days.
Like somebody else had said. I'm also cheap and patient.
kcshooter
June 23, 2012, 09:28 AM
You guys are funny.... You are making me, the buyer try to feel bad for paying up frontNo, that's not what's happening here. What we're doing is trying to figure out why you are calling a reputable firearms dealer dishonest, even though they have not gone past their "promised" shipping window, stating that they charged you shipping (when we all know they don't), and basically bashed a company that consistently takes care of customers well and and at generally outstanding prices.
You stated it had been 7 days as of Thursday. That's not business days, so it had only been 5 actual business days, not 7. You haven't even allowed them the timeframe they stated.
You stated they charged $37 shipping, but that's insurance for a $3700 firearm, and definitely NOT shipping costs. Bud's does not charge shipping on firearms to continental US.
You stated they were dishonest. I contend they indeed are not dishonest.
That is a serious claim, and it is undeserved and out of line.
grandpawj
June 23, 2012, 09:36 AM
I have bought several guns from Bud's, always been satisfied with em
TennJed
June 23, 2012, 09:37 AM
As far as the wait goes, honestly in a way Buds can be faster for me. I work M-F and ever other Saturday. I can only get to my local stores every other Saturday or take some time off work.
The FFL I ship to works out of his home and will let me pick it after 6pm. I shop from my couch late at night then stop by his house on my way home from work.
My biggest problem (and I do understand why) with local gun stores is they are only open the same hours I work. I might support my local stores more, but usually I only have a small window (every other Saturday and most Saturdays are booked with family) to even shop there. That makes Buds much faster, even with shipping
gym
June 23, 2012, 10:01 PM
South FL prices are considerablly higher than Buds, or the rest of the state. Mostlly caused by more Northerners with part time homes here. My lgs won't even debate Buds prices, he says, buy from them. I no longer use him, the best deals are from shoot straight , but only at the shows, when I visited their store they were higher than they should have been. Vero is known as a second residence area, If I went west or way south twords Miami, there are better deals to be had. Even Port St Lucie is cheaper, 1 town over, but Ft pierce 2 towns over has some of the highest prices I have seen. The LC9 was $498, with spare mag, and laser sight, tax and call in.This at PSL largest gun store, "the name escapes me" they do have a range, where you may shoot for free with your new gun.
checkmyswag
June 24, 2012, 10:35 AM
I've never had a problem with Buds.
kcshooter
July 2, 2012, 09:03 AM
Just so that the CORRECT AND HONEST information is posted here, here's what the popup window read when I just now placed an order for a handgun at BudsGunShop.com:
As per our advertised terms, please allow up to 7 BUSINESS DAYS days after we receive both your FFL info and payment to ship your firearm. Although many firearms will ship much sooner, we only commit to ship within our advertised terms. Accessory items will often ship the same day, but almost always within 3 business days.
So, since the information provided by the OP was neither true nor correct, I hope we can put to rest any sort of doubt about the business practices of Bud's.
sansone
July 2, 2012, 09:31 AM
in my neck of the woods local dealers have no problem matching bud's prices.
Many services provided by your LGS will no longer be available if he's gone.
For those of you that are blind to everything but price, call your LGS with the price you see at bud's and chances are he will match it.
kcshooter
July 2, 2012, 09:59 AM
I checked. Neither of the two I deal with were within $125 of Bud's.
Sorry, but when both local dealers won't go under $500 for a gun that Bud's is selling for under $400, it isn't my fault if the local dealers looses my business to Bud's, it's their fault.
oneounceload
July 2, 2012, 10:01 AM
Quote:
PERSONALLY, my local FFL can order from a distributor and get it in two days for less than Buds - on anything I want
Ayuh...
Sorry, sad, but true. Like Bud's he doesn't stock much, but his wholesale distributors do....and these are the same folks who supply Walmart here in the South and just about everyone else - I would bet Bud's uses one of them as well
CZ-75BD
July 2, 2012, 10:06 AM
Bought two guns and one M10 carbine from Buds, had problem with last order did not shipped for 12 days and did not responded on any e-mails. But prices cheaper then in LGS and no taxes. If you not in a rush worth the wait.
Swing
July 2, 2012, 10:25 AM
Well i doubt the OP was planning on advertising for bud's but I really feel like ordering a new gun!
+1. I've never bought from Bud's, but from the satisfied customers (minus the OP), I should check it out for the next gun purchase. Their prices look very reasonable.
sansone
July 2, 2012, 01:36 PM
I checked. Neither of the two I deal with were within $125 of Bud's.
Sorry, but when both local dealers won't go under $500 for a gun that Bud's is selling for under $400, it isn't my fault if the local dealers looses my business to Bud's, it's their fault.
I agree with you 100%.. surprised your dealer can't match price. I have no problem matching price, gun arrives in 2 days, no transfer fee, tracking # when you order,
repeat customers don't even need to leave deposit
JustinNC
July 2, 2012, 03:02 PM
I agree with you 100%.. surprised your dealer can't match price. I have no problem matching price, gun arrives in 2 days, no transfer fee, tracking # when you order,
repeat customers don't even need to leave deposit
If they can't match online price + shipping + transfer fee, they won't get my business. I've already given them the chance to price match, PLUS adding shipping PLUS a transfer fee, that gives them some cushion to rest on.
That said, I find myself browsing the www. more and more shopping for guns. My LGS told me he couldn't go any lower than $450 on a certain gun, told him I could spend $10 and an hour round trip to the next town and get it for $380, plus the gas, and still be $60 to the good............he called BS, we went to the computer, showed him the price, and he hemmed and hawed around, whined about how my out the door price I said Id pay would just barely cover the wholesale plus tax, I threw $400 on the counter and told him to write me up or I was going to the truck. Those four crisp $100 bills sure made him change his mind. They must have sent some sort of subliminal message to him that he should probably change his mind or lose a customer.
CountryUgly
July 2, 2012, 06:45 PM
I've heard good things about Bud's and have wanted to buy from them but their prices aren't even competitive with my local Wally World much less my LGS.
TennJed
July 2, 2012, 08:16 PM
I've heard good things about Bud's and have wanted to buy from them but their prices aren't even competitive with my local Wally World much less my LGS.
Other than some ammo and basic long guns, my local walmart does not sell anything that Buds does. 2 completely different sets of merchandise. Hard comparison for most to make, although I do know that walmart vary by location. Sounds like you got a good one
mgkdrgn
July 2, 2012, 08:38 PM
Good
Fast
Cheap
Pick any two
BBQLS1
July 2, 2012, 08:46 PM
I'm cheap an patient. I've really had no problems with buds. I'll probably use them again.
Onward Allusion
July 2, 2012, 09:13 PM
I'm going to have to go against the grain on this one. I personally don't know of any store - brick & mortar OR online that has a caveat that says it may take up to 7 days AFTER the FFL AND money is received before one's merchandise is shipped.
Seriously, would anyone want to wait...say a total of 10 days after their CC is charged to receive their merchandise in these days of Amazon Prime? Also, Bud's prices are good, but let me tell ya, I have gotten much better deals than Bud's via Gunbroker and other online sources. Finally, has anyone noticed that their ship times have been stretched since their VIP Club???
Bottom line, Buds is a good baseline for researching prices, but it isn't the end-all.
evan price
July 3, 2012, 06:29 AM
I'd say the OP is one of those people I would choose never to deal with.
First it was days, then "almost weeks" late. And it's not.
Then they charged shipping- but they don't.
And then he played the "Oh, no, they are onto me!" card and says he's not going to post anymore!
Whatev', bru-bru.
Don't feed the trolls.
Dean1818
July 3, 2012, 06:40 AM
I have purchased a few guns from Buds and have been 100% happy
However, if a LGS is somewhat close
(after counting any shipping, FFL transfer fee, and tax calcs at the LGS)
I will buy from an LGS
I will say that if i see a LGS mark up a weapon above MSRP, because of demand, i wont buy again from them. What they charge is their freedom, but
Taking advantage of customers isnt a good long term strategy
Buying a gun should not be like getting tickets from a scalper at a sold out game
dogtown tom
July 3, 2012, 02:04 PM
I'll bet this epic thread gets to four pages.
:cool:
das_dude
July 3, 2012, 04:14 PM
The only way to get someing ASAP is to go to someplace local and buy it. I buy stuff locally and on the internet. Yes, the internet is cheaper but it still isn't as fast as driving down to your local gun shop and just buying it there. I used to work at a place when I lived in Pheonix, AZ that had two departments, one for walk-in traffice, the other for catalog orders. They sold 4x4 parts by the way. I worked in the shipping dept. and more often than not, we were bombarded on a daily basis with orders. With as many people that worked there, it still took us a few days to get orders out, and on top of that, many of the items that we sold were by special order. Not in stock.
1894
July 3, 2012, 06:56 PM
oneounceload & sansone: You two seem to have found reputable lgs' with decent pricing. Care to share? I'm in the Jax / Orlando area. Anything close? I would much rather patronize a lgs than a Gander, etc. w/ extravagant transfer fees.
hemiram
July 3, 2012, 11:26 PM
I bought one today, and I would bet $20 that it arrives by Friday. I'm a VIP member, in case you were wondering.
mopar92
July 13, 2012, 10:15 AM
16 days from time of purchase FYI.
kcshooter
July 13, 2012, 05:33 PM
Really. On my post on July 2nd, I had just placed the order, and paid by E-Check, which adds 6 days to the processing time.
It showed up yesterday at my FFL. (I got a delay, as usual, so I don't have it yet, though)
So 10 days, total, and only 8 business days. That's 6 day E-Check hold, 2 days shipping, excluding the weekend, and another satisfied customer.
Not that I've ever been anything but with Buds.
RoboDuck
July 14, 2012, 02:35 PM
I have always been satisfied purchasing from Bud's. My last purchase was a Glock 20 and it shipped in 5 business days .
Dreamliner787
July 14, 2012, 10:45 PM
Never had a problem with them.
will919
July 14, 2012, 11:50 PM
Buds has always served me well. I will continue to spend my hard earned money on there reasonably priced merchandise.
hemiram
July 15, 2012, 05:27 AM
It came on Thursday. I picked it up on Friday. Amazing shape for 88 years old.
Elkins45
July 15, 2012, 10:43 AM
I used to buy guns from Bud when he had his little shop down the street from where he is now. I'm sure he doesn't remember my name but he has always recognized my face. I last saw him in person when he was working a table at a Lexington gun show about five years ago. This was before he opened his giant internet business and was still running the shop in Paris. He made me a heck of a deal on a left handed Winchester Model 70.
I've only bought a couple of guns from him online. I guess I'm fortunate in that I live close enough that I just have the guns shipped to his retail outlet and pick them up there--so what I'm saying is that for me, Buds IS my LGS, or at least one of them.
mopar92
December 2, 2012, 11:32 AM
For all of you naysayers... Hahahah my neighbor 3 houses down is on week 2 of his gun... Buds has a great shop, and I believe they are an honest place to do business. However, I do think they are optimistic on their shipping times.... They have been around a long time for a reason, just saying don't expect to get a gun on time... Some have some have not..
Inebriated
December 2, 2012, 11:38 AM
The two guns I ordered from them both shipped within 3 days. Bud's is ok with me.
Warp
December 2, 2012, 12:58 PM
Bud Gun Shop...I don't think I'll do business with them again.
On Thanksgiving day I placed an online order for some ammo. Within 45 seconds of placing hte order I realized I made a mistake and wanted to cancel the order. To make a long story short I was not able to, and I am pretty sure the phone system was set up to lie to you and keep you from ever actually talking to somebody. Also, the Cancel Order button (looks like a stop sign) on the website is likewise designed to not actually work.
Tim the student
December 2, 2012, 02:28 PM
I had one (my only) transaction with them - and it was positive.
Likewise with Buds Police.
kcshooter
December 2, 2012, 04:01 PM
Bud Gun Shop...I don't think I'll do business with them again.That's very surprising. I have recently had a great experience with them. Bought a shotgun which had the incorrect capacity listed in the specs on the webpage. They had stated 5+1 but it was actually 4+1. I left a review of the gun, and in the review stated that they had it incorrect in the description.
The next day, I got a call from them on my cell. They apologized for the mistake and asked me what they could do to make it right, even if I wanted to return the gun for full store credit. (I told them I knew it was 4+1 before I ordered it, so I had no complaint.)
Now to me, THAT is the kind of customer service you don't see often these days.
For all of you naysayers... Hahahah...I do think they are optimistic on their shipping timesSince you started this thread 6 months ago, I have bought three guns from Buds, and each time the shipping was earlier than promised.
I have had it take longer than normal because I paid by e-check, which adds 4-5 days to the total time. This isn't Bud's fault. Those two times, it was 10 and 11 days total from day ordered to day delivered. And this was still within the time they promised, actually about 2-3 days faster.
I saved over $125 on the first gun, $90 on the second, and $150 on the third compared to the lowest price at two local gun shops. I'll happily wait a few extra days for savings like this.
You've had this explained to you several times, yet you seem to want to be dissatisfied rather than understanding the shipping time frame as stated by Bud's. Your credibility is nil. You aren't giving details, just bashing in a very disingenuous manner.
Warp
December 2, 2012, 04:04 PM
That's very surprising. I have recently had a great experience with them. Bought a shotgun which had the incorrect capacity listed in the specs on the webpage. They had stated 5+1 but it was actually 4+1. I left a review of the gun, and in the review stated that they had it incorrect in the description.
The next day, I got a call from them on my cell. They apologized for the mistake and asked me what they could do to make it right, even if I wanted to return the gun for full store credit. (I told them I knew it was 4+1 before I ordered it, so I had no complaint.)
Now to me, THAT is the kind of customer service you don't see often these days.
I gave their customer service every opportunity, and they did everything possible to ruin my experience.
I put a cancellation request in within 2 minutes of placing the order. Didn't matter. They "shipped" my order before they "read" my cancellation request, and said there was nothing they could do about it.
I sat on hold for almost an hour. At one point the recording said I was #4 in line and the estimated wait time was 8 minutes. 25 minutes later my estimated wait time was 35 minutes, and it stopped telling me what position I was in line.
I cannot reasonably conclude anything other than: Buds Gun Shop is set up so that you are stuck with any order to submit, no matter what. They seemed to do everything possible to avoid dealing with me, or allowing me to cancel the order I had JUST MADE.
Halal Pork
December 2, 2012, 05:47 PM
I like Buds. I'd rather have a great local shop but, since that's not the case, Buds is a handy option for me.
robMaine
December 2, 2012, 06:11 PM
I have gambled a few times on Buds and always come out ok. I most recently ordered an XD9 on black Friday. No notifications by Tuesday and I was getting nervous based on others reports, but it showed up at my FFL on Weds. I call that fast shipping!
Al Thompson
December 2, 2012, 06:31 PM
This one's going around in circles and is 5 months old. :rolleyes:
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