Ramshot true blue


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area51
June 24, 2012, 11:44 PM
I am a real fun of w231 for 9mm/38spcl/45acp.
Y'all have any experiences with true blue in these loads ?

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ArchAngelCD
June 25, 2012, 12:12 AM
I am a real fun of w231 for 9mm/38spcl/45acp.
Y'all have any experiences with true blue in these loads ?
True Blue is a slower powder than W231/HP-38. If you're looking for a Ramshot powder similar to W231 you're looking for Zip. (very similar)

area51
June 25, 2012, 01:13 AM
True Blue is a slower powder than W231/HP-38. If you're looking for a Ramshot powder similar to W231 you're looking for Zip. (very similar)

Is zip Cleaner than 231?

ArchAngelCD
June 25, 2012, 01:18 AM
Is zip Cleaner than 231?
Zip is a clean powder but cleaner than W231, I don't know because I don't fine W231 to be a dirty powder. You must be loading to very low pressures or using lead bullets with a dirty lube if W231 is producing dirty ammo...

1SOW
June 25, 2012, 01:29 AM
Win 231 is very "sooty" at competition minor PF velocities (124gr @ 1050fps). It wipes off fairly easily, but is dirty.

True Blue at these pressures/speeds, will smoke and have muzzle blast like a coal burning locomotive.

777TRUTH
June 25, 2012, 04:40 AM
I have a pound but haven't tried it yet.

True Blue looks to me to be very similar to AA#5, kind of like the HP-38/W231 relationship.

Walkalong
June 25, 2012, 07:22 AM
True Blue is a fine round powder. "Unflattened ball" vs "flattened ball" as it were. It meters superbly. It is one on the least position sensitive powders at low pressure I have tried. I have not loaded it light enough to experience the "muzzle blast like a coal burning locomotive" 1SOW mentioned. I have loaded it at full pressure in 9MM, where it works well, and in .45 Colt, where pressures are fairly low. At both levels it has burned cleanly. I have also tried it in .32 ACP, .38 Spl, 5.7X28, & .40 as well. Overall my impression is positive.

ZIp is about as close to W-231 as you can get. It is very accurate in low pressure .45 ACP. I have not tried it in 9MM.

cfullgraf
June 25, 2012, 08:00 AM
I discovered True Blue during the Great Reloading Component Shortage of 2009. Lots of it was available then because I guess it was not as well known as other powders.

I use it mostly in 9x19 but also some other cartridges as well. It has become a standard powder in my inventory.

I agree with all the positive comments already posted.

I have been told that it is similar to AA#5

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