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10-Ring
January 30, 2003, 11:00 PM
Will any of you take any extra precautions if/when this war w/ Iraq starts up?

Sven
January 30, 2003, 11:05 PM
No.

PATH
January 30, 2003, 11:31 PM
I've been cautious since the day they destroyed the towers. Hell, we are at war!

TheFrontRange
January 31, 2003, 02:41 AM
Same here...ever since this war really kicked off on 11 Sep 2001 I've been more vigilant. I've had a CCW for over ten years but I started carrying nearly everywhere the night of 11 Sep. Plus I did purchase my first semi-auto rifle, not necessarily because I expect hordes of Al-Qaeda warriors to come pouring up my driveway, but the additional weaponry does give me a warm, fuzzy feeling all over.

I've been taking my range visits more seriously, too. Shooting always has been and always will be FUN to me, but I've been trying to make every single practice shot "count" more.

labgrade
January 31, 2003, 03:06 AM
No Sir.

I always figured that our own domestic "terrorists" have always been much more of a threat.

We "got the word" that " 1,000s of women were being raped in Bosnia." (circa mid-90s) etc. (when that was the hot button) .... but, all the while, we've 2 million domestic rapes .... here! ?

Aahh! I'm already gonna turn y'all off ....

We were already at war - & that with our own domestic criminal element.

I CCW daily/everywhere, + either have a SG or .308 scoped bolt in the truck & will be damned! if any puke - of any ilk will deprive us - your, yours, or mine - will be a victim if I can help it.

Nothing to be construed as emphatic or otherwise.

I just don't understand the "ramp" that we may "go to war."

We most certainly already are & those who don't get the difference between a terrorist act & that of "normal crime" is somehow beyond me.

Nope. Nothing different.

Terrorist, "foreign or domestic," still will get the same treatment.

TheFrontRange
January 31, 2003, 03:13 AM
Terrorist, "foreign or domestic," still will get the same treatment.

Very well said.

Skunkabilly
January 31, 2003, 03:25 AM
I try not to let the gas go below a half tank and sometimes let it slip to a quarter, but will make sure I do now. Not so much a precation for SHTF scenarios, as much as against price gouging. GOtta save me a few bucks to buy more ammo!!

Wildalaska
January 31, 2003, 03:42 AM
Nope...Im looking west...to Korea....

WildiminrangeAlaska

Navy joe
January 31, 2003, 05:32 AM
I've always been a little iffy about living in the largest concentration area of the U.S. Navy. Especially after the embassy bombings in 98. Situationally I will continue to take a little extra precautions such as having basic tools in my car, cash on hand, etc. Just for perspective's sake, on the morning of 9/11 none of us knew how bad it would get. Someone I know went to the local bank to withdraw 10,000 USD to fix the cash on hand problem just in case it got a lot worse. 11:00am on 9/11 and that one transaction pretty much depleted the bank. Now if you figure the ATM will work, good luck. Mine was a rough day, after work I did buy some extra packaged food and throw it into my car bag. Got a 500rd case of .223, Wal-mart wasn't selling ammo either. Have yours already. I was completely out at the time, not good. When I walked into the gun shop, sales were brisk and stayed that way for the next year. 9/12 I had to walk to work since traffic was dead stopped due to vehicle searches, 4 miles, 40lb pack, w/ gas mask;) (Have good boots already too)

In the future I will modify my work habits. I always told myself I would make myself a shipboard version of a bugout bag. Now when I go back to the boat I will. Ending up in the water without your ship is still a possibility these hi-tech days. I find the std. liferaft gear pretty basic except for the reverse osmosis desalinator hand pump.(want one of those) Also possible is being isolated in one portion of the ship due to major emergency such as a fire. Nice to have useful tools with you.

P.S. I think the war started 93 or earlier. 1st WTC bombing at the very least. After that one I swore that if I ever worked in a high-rise(hate heights) I would keep fireman's turnout gear w/ SCBA & Axe! in the office. Would probably take up base jumping as a hobby too. Hate being trapped, there have been lots of nasty high-rise fires, I don't book rooms above jumping level. If you work in any large building you should consider a bag with first aid basics, some water, a pair of good flashlights(Pelican/Hubble firemans light good for low dough), and a oxygen generating escape hood. Know every possible way in and out of your work area.

voilsb
January 31, 2003, 06:07 AM
I won't be doing anything additionally special. I'm not going to prepare for SHTF because, honestly, I can't afford it. rent is hard enough sometimes.

Daniel Flory
January 31, 2003, 11:26 AM
Nope.

foghornl
January 31, 2003, 12:28 PM
Since I live on the "North Coast" of the USA, (Lake Erie), and about 60% of the water supply for a lot of acres around me comes from said lake, I laid in some extra water supplies, canned soups, meats, etc. If the terrs were to sneak in across Alaska, then into Canada, and start tossing assorted nasty stuff into the Great Lakes, well.........about the upper third of the US and a lot of Canada will be in the 'deep darks' for potable water.

Increased the sensitivity settings on my motion detectors. Slowly adding to ammo stores in all calibres. Added locks to all outside doors, and blocked "walk-in" door to garage.

Replaced single 2-1/2 gallon "yard equipment" gas can with 4 5-gallon cans. Have emergency 'petrol stash' if needed. Bought extra 20-lb bottle for LP grill, and bought a bunch of the 1-lb cans for the Thermos "grill-2-go". So, i can cook and heat. Have lotza extra betteries for flashlights and portable radios, along with the FRS 2-ways.

10-Ring
January 31, 2003, 12:34 PM
I guess the key word in my question was "extra." I too will not do much more than I already do. How much more aware can you be unless, you never sleep?:scrutiny:

Ledbetter
January 31, 2003, 02:10 PM
I keep all my .45 mags loaded (well, to 90% capacity). That's about 80 rounds. I have a Crimson Trace-equipped SA MilSpec and a Marlin Camp Carbine that's been "reliable-ized" to use them in. I also have 560 rounds of M2 Ball in clips for my Garand and 72 rounds loaded in mags for my M1A, with a couple of 200 round packs unopened.

So, no, nothing special.

sonoranjack
January 31, 2003, 04:03 PM
No. If you have to change security measures after 9/11. Then your security measures were wrong before 9/11.

Art Eatman
January 31, 2003, 07:57 PM
20-some years back, I was reading an article listing what the Good Little Survivalist would have. I sez, "Goodness, me-oh-my! I are a Survivalist!" When you're a hunter/reloader/rancher/mechanic/welder/electrician/carpenter, there ain't much left in the way of "things" to have. :D

I guess about all I've done during the last ten years of increasing BS--both foreign and domestic--is to move toward "Condition Yellow +"

:), Art

vertigo7
January 31, 2003, 09:31 PM
There was a memo on my desk this morning from the "safety committee" at work, encouraging employees to think about possible natural disasters or other "conditions of unrest or disturbance" (read: war with Iraq) and to consider keeping emergency kits, containing cash, food, blankets, tools, asprins and so forth, at work and in my vehicle because I never know what might happen and I could be stranded at work for several hours or days, etc etc.

Of course, I follow orders like a good little wageslave. One bug-out bag / ammo stash each for my vehicle and the jobsite, got it, Boss..... :evil: Do you think I could arrange an Ammoman delivery to my cube at work?

vertigo7

Gary H
January 31, 2003, 09:38 PM
I bought dried food, water and am looking for potasium iodide. Put together a couple of bags that I can put in the car and head away from prevailing winds. Not a bad idea (not the iodide and wind part) when living in earthquake country.

Double Naught Spy
February 1, 2003, 01:01 AM
ABSOLUTELY!!!!

I am making it a policy to go nowhere near recruiters for the military.

As for concerns pertaining to things like war and 9/11, there really is no much you should be doing different if you planned right. If you think about it, no amount of personal SHTF preparedness of any of the people in the various buildings destroyed on 9/11 did any good. I still laugh at the shortage of ammo at the local Academy sportinggoods store. The clerk was laughing about people buying ammo for the wrong reasons, most of whom were apparently wanting to protect themselves from terrorists. As he said, there wasn't any way in the world that a person on the ground on in one of the destroyed buildings of 9/11 were going to stop those attacks with .380 or any other pistol or rifle ammo that you might find in a place like Academy.

In the grand scheme, there is very little likelihood of those of us in the states to get killed by terrorists, domestic or foreign. The real threats to us are the same every single day. We are more likely to be hurt or killed by a common street thug, junkie, or family member. We tremble at the horror of just how many lives can be taken in single episodes such as the Federal building in OKC, 9/11, etc., but the truth of the matter is that while those are significant one time episodes, thousands of people get murdered every year and we don't give that too much thought because they are generally single or individual deaths and not mass killings. We all resign ourselves to the fact that individuals get murdered all the time and that such events are tragic, but not surprising.

It isn't that we can't defend ourselves against some types of terroristic attacks as individuals, only that some types are way out of our control as individuals. If you exercise the same good vigilance/situational awareness that you use day to day to protect against less notable threats like robbers, rapists, etc., then those actions should work well for you should you be in a position where you are one-on-one with a terrorist.

Weimadog
February 4, 2003, 01:04 AM
I'm avoiding tobacco products, and fatty foods.

I'm trying to exercise every day.

I wear my seatbelt when I ride in the car.

I check the batteries on my smoke detectors.

I'm going to put some non-skid strips in the bathtub, to protect against falls.

When I'm changing my son's diaper, I cover up his wanger, so he doesn't pee on me.

I'm prepared!

Weimadog

LASur5r
February 4, 2003, 12:51 PM
Got a Leupold Red-dot on order for my Springfield scout rifle...couple more cases of .308, already loaded up on my .40 cal for my handguns, and adding on a few more things for my BOB bag and I'm good to go.:scrutiny: :scrutiny:

gryphon
February 4, 2003, 09:43 PM
This isn't anything different new, but:
1. I have my BOB
2. All my rifles and handguns are in workign order and have ammo
3. I'm at the gym 4 days a week hitting the cardio and weights(been doing so for 3 years now).

Not much more I can do different, other than pray that nothing else horrible happens. I'm loiving by the motto that I plan for the worst and hope for the best.

Mike Irwin
February 5, 2003, 11:00 PM
Yeah, buy another bottle of Gin.

You can never have too much gin on hand.

Kahr carrier
February 6, 2003, 08:12 AM
Nope.:)

jmbg29
February 6, 2003, 08:23 AM
If I did anything more, the war would be over by now!;) :p :neener: :D

illuminatus99
February 6, 2003, 09:00 AM
nothing different from what I've had for a long time other than an extra case of 7.62X39 and a few bricks of .22LR, that's mostly in anticipation for a friends birthday party though, she's got about 80 acres and a nice big hill to shoot into.

I'm not too worried about terrorists here, I'm prepared to deal with threats that I can and cannot prevent directly.

4 eyed six shooter
February 8, 2003, 03:06 AM
Besides having firearms, ammo, food etc. one thing to think about is heat, light and water. Where I live, the winters are long and cold. The possibility of the power grid being hit is a real one. I have installed a propane stove that does not need electricity to run upstairs and a wood stove in the basement. A 500 gal propane tank is always kept full and a good supply of wood is laid in. I have a hand pump for the well, oil lamps with lots of extra oil, propane grill and burners, a generator and 75 gallons of gas with fuel saver in it. Re-chargable batteries and solar battery chargers for the flashlights and radios and a travel trailer fully equipped. I keep extras of the items needed for daily living in case normal shipping is interupted.
I have several close friends near by that are also prepaired for problems. If there is something that I need and don't have, they most likely do. In times of trouble we would band togather and between all of us would have everything needed to weather the problem in relitive comfort. I am lucky enough to live in an area that would not be a place that would be a target for terrorists, but could still be affected by terror actions in other areas.
Think about what you could not survive without and stock up on those items. Don't forget extra meds and first aid supplies.

clem
February 8, 2003, 02:19 PM
"Treat everyone you meet like a million bucks, but always have a plan to kill them."

Agent Hall, FBI Acadamy


Anyway, that's who I was told said it.

dwestfall
February 20, 2003, 08:48 PM
For those in urban/suburban locations, do you think you'd be able to drive out/away after some type of nuclear/chem/bio attack (should you want to evac vs dig in)?

Not only do I not have any particular location in mind, but I doubt I could get there if I had one.

bad_dad_brad
February 20, 2003, 09:52 PM
No. Nothing you can do. You have a much greater chance of dying in an automobile accident than in an a terrorist attack - so drive safe!

Safety First
February 22, 2003, 10:57 PM
stocking up on drinking water,canned food, few extra boxes of ammo,sterno for cooking,extra propane for the bbq,basic supplies to keep on hand that we will eventually use regardless of emergency or not... When terrorist do strike and they will strike again, as the war is on,it will probably be in a high densley populated area. I live in Georgia in a very rural area and travel 45 miles to work to an average size city. The threat for me is probably lower than the average american who lives and works in a large city like Atlanta..But there is one concern that some are playing down,that is gun-toten terrorist..What concerns me is some of the reports on shows like 60 minutes, 20/20 etc..It has presented pictures of large numbers of middle eastern people being smuggled across the mexican border. Well what we don't know for sure is how many are now here...So I don't down play the possibility that there could be sniper/human bomber attacks against us...certainly not paranoid but feel we should be vigilant in keeping our eyes open..

larry_minn
February 23, 2003, 02:49 AM
Just try to pick up a few more things when they are on sale. Also keep more fuel on hand as price is going up.
Being ready is MUCH more then extra ammo. Food,water,heat,meds,etc are also VERY important.

BillyTheMountain
February 26, 2003, 09:07 PM
I've been cautious since the day they destroyed the towers. Hell, we are at war!

Hell, I've been cautious since the day Klintoon was elected. Hell, we've been/are at war(domestic and foreign)! Same $h!t; different day...

LIProgun
February 27, 2003, 10:36 AM
Looks like I may have to cancel my Spring Break trip to Baghdad.

labgrade
February 27, 2003, 07:46 PM
Having a bit of stuff at hand is always a good thing - I don't care if it's a "Baltimore Snowstorm that shuts the city down toot sweet" or or just having it to "get by just in case."

My way of thinkin', anybody who doesn't have at least a week's worth of food/water is an idiot (& you do have to flush the toilet, BTW - & that's about 5 gallons per flush with a pre-EPA toilet). & that's just to hang out at your own home.

Consider you have no electricity, no natural gas, no water - no = zip utilities - in or out. What are you gonna do?

[I[That[/I] is the absolute bare bones condition you should look at. How will you maintain your home-boy lifestyle without a connect to The World - at the least, at your own house.

Different lifestyles entail different solutions.

We never "relied" on electricity. We have propane for heating, cooking & light, + back-ups to that. Wood does many a thing that propane won't.

Same-same for heat.

Worse case though, you must have a volume of water to flush your toilet - if you must.

Buncha stuff you must consider even if you'll just stay ay home.

"Backpacking" outa the house must be a consideration.