[jimmysadd]

can a real small woman handle the recoil? at least she could reach the trigger

[rcmodel]

Sure she could handle it. But she won't hit anything with it.

She could handle one with a stock on it much better, and actually hit what she shoots at.

Look at this one.
Comes with stock spacers so it will fit Tiny Tim if necessary.
http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.asp?id=41&section=products

BTW: A real small 13 year old woman can handle the recoil of a 12 ga shotgun if she realy wants too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Rhode

rc

[Skribs]

If my friend's little sister could handle 3 1/2 inch shells out of a 12-gauge, I think any woman (barring medical issues) should be able to handle a .410.

[jimmysadd]

my wife is so short she can't find a stock short enough.f we get the 410 it will be home defence.and close up shooting

[rcmodel]

See the Mossberg link I put in post #2.

Trust me, you don't want a pistol grip shotgun.

Not only is it hard to hit with, but Billy the Burgler can snatch it out of her hands without even trying too hard.

A stock locked under your arm makes twisting the gun away from you almost impossible.

rc

[jimmysadd]

thanks

[theautobahn]

Trust me, you don't want a pistol grip shotgun.

+1 Pistol grip shotguns make for poor defensive tools. Unless you're the breacher on an entry team, get a stock. Any competent gunsmith can cut down a stock and fit a recoil pad for you.

[oneounceload]

Read the CorneredCat.com; then take your wife to a shotgun club (the trap/skeet type) and have her try a few and see if someone there knows about FIT. Fit for folks who are not the "norm" size- either short or tall, skinny or fat is crucial for success with a shotgun.

My first wife was 4-11, she could hoist my 20 gauge if necessary - with a stock cut to fit, she could defend herself nicely

[Fred Fuller]

Wood stocks can be cut to fit, and have premium recoil pads installed to boot. Much better idea than a PGO...

Last time I was by the local Mountain of Geese, they had one of these on the rack - ttp://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Remington-870-Express-Jr-Shotgun&i=GM420190&aID=510D2&merchID=4006

Very cool, so neat I almost bought my first NIB 870 in 40 years...

18.25" barrel, 12" LOP stock...

[303tom]

Have you thought about one of these ?

http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Shotguns/tamer.asp

[Gordon]

Looks like you are set on a .410 for her even after the last lengthy thread. (sigh) Here ya go, relatively cheap and it Will fit her:
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/14665
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ9TmP29MSU

[jimmysadd]

thanks for all the comments guys

[jimmysadd]

I don"t need lights to see a bg in my house, i have night lights in every room

[HarcyPervin]

Last time I was by the local Mountain of Geese, they had one of these on the rack - ttp://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Remington-870-Express-Jr-Shotgun&i=GM420190&aID=510D2&merchID=4006

Very cool, so neat I almost bought my first NIB 870 in 40 years...

18.25" barrel, 12" LOP stock...

That was my first shotgun...I'm now 6'2'' and still shoot it (with a limbsaver on it that adds 1"+ to the LOP) This is a great option for the smaller shooters and makes a great grouse gun with a slip on recoil pad...

[USAF_Vet]

If I had a .410 factory PGO Firearm, I'd install a rifled slug barrel and chop it down.

Factory PGO guns are not considered shotguns, but Other Firearms/Weapons. Meaning, with a rifled barrel, you can convert it to a pistol without any NFA stamp.

Aside from that, a stocked shotgun is a lot easier to handle than a PGO. Also, .410 isn't my top choice for a HD weapon. I'd look into a bantam stock 20 gauge.

[Hapworth]

I'm a believer in .410 for home defense, provided it's buckshot and delivered from a barrel no less than 18".

That being said, if she's that small, why not go the handgun route? Many options, plenty viable, in some ways superior for home defense.

As for lights, are your night lights battery or solar powered? I wasn't into gun lights on the logic that I keep low ambient lighting through my house at night. Then I spent almost a week over the summer without electricity. Changed my way of thinking.

If you're insistent on a .410 shotgun, I'll echo what others have said: forget the pistol grip.

Get an 18" Mossberg 500 in .410 and put a bantam stock on it.

[oneounceload]

People poo-poo the 410 - but you use a slug - that is like hitting someone with a 41 mag bullet that is twice the norm - nothing to shrug at

[crazyjennyblack]

Can a small woman handle the recoil? YOU BET!!!! With proper training, you can handle whatever you put your mind to. I'm in my 20's, female, average height and fairly slender. I can handle a 12 gauge with 3" slugs with very little issue. I've also shot a friend's .50 bmg rifle. Please, don't underestimate your female companions....

As for the pistol grip, have her hold it and see if she likes it. That's your true test.

[JamieC]

My wife is 4' 11", 100lbs. We bought a Remington 870. Put a Knoxx recoil absorbing, adjustable stock on it, fits her just fine now, shot a little over 150 rounds the other day, #7, #4, 00 buck, slugs, she shot her half. It was her first real effort with a 12 gauge, a bit sore the next day, "a good sore", her words, not mine :) If someone is comfortable with a 410, that's the one to practice with, shot placement is KING. Nothing wrong with a 410 for in home SD, I'm not sure the 12ga would be my first choice yet for at home SD, I have way more time on handguns especially if I'm moving around the house.