[ponchsox]

At cdnn. I just bought one with night sights for $320. Heck of a deal. Sale good until Saturday.

[PabloJ]

Yes, that is good price for K9. Do night sight still glow enough on those oldies?

[ponchsox]

Salesman said they still do. I figured for $20 it was worth the chance.

[PabloJ]

Sadly I have to pass an that deal. Lord only knows why, but few hours ago I bought Glock 29SF with night sights. Oh, I know someone on the board convinced me it's best thing since sliced bread.:banghead:

[ponchsox]

Congrats on the Glock, I would be happy!

[Girodin]

I can't see them listed in their catalog. Are these available for purchase online/by phone?

[mgmorden]

It was part of their weekly gun specials that they mail out. Kinda sucks as I would be allover this deal but it happened to hit JUST when boat insurance is due and the car needs a new timing belt :'(.

[ponchsox]

You can order them over the phone and have them shipped to your FFL. I would act quickly before they run out.

[Girodin]

Just ordered two! Thanks for the heads up.

[eam3clm@att.net]

I get the monthly sales paper from Cdnn, but I have never gotten a weekly sale paper. How do you get the weekly one.

[BullfrogKen]

I just ordered one. Thanks for the heads up.

[Impureclient]

They are out as of right now.

[Prosser]

Moderator:
Please lock this thread so we don't have to suffer.:banghead::cuss::fire:

[Walkalong]

Yea, really.......

[BullfrogKen]

I suspect they'll get more in stock.

[19-3Ben]

My sincere hope is that they get more in stock... next month. This month, the taxes are due and they hurt. I don't have the $350 to spend on it. If I did... oh baby I'd love one. and I KNOW my wife would like it. She loved the feel of my K40 but didn't like the recoil. K9 sounds like a perfect gun for her!

[Girodin]

Yeah when I called they said they were going fast, that's part of why I decided to get two. Together they were the price of a new one. The guy on the phone said that on a whole they were in very good shape.

[BullfrogKen]

I've always thought about getting one but just never got around to it.


That price took away any reason to dither any longer.

[Skylerbone]

Bahh! I hear those things weigh a ton with that 10 lb. NY trigger! :p. Congrats to those that got them, I've only checked CDNN's site once myself but didn't see a list of firearms for sale.

[Girodin]

I'm glad so many NY cops cannot safely handle their guns, and their supervisors are dumb, or perhaps just dishonest, enough to blame it on equipment instead of user error.

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-12-12/news/30509585_1_pistol-discharges-nypd-brass-kahr-arms

However, if I lived in NY it would likely concern me and not just make me happy that it has led to me getting a smoking deal on a good gun.

[hAkron]

Thank god the are out! This thread almost cost me $300 + shipping + FFL

[Wishoot]

Thank god the are out! This thread almost cost me $300 + shipping + FFL
+1

I have a couple of projects that I need to spend money on (converting a Saiga, converting 10/22 trigger). Last thing I need is to spend $300 on a gun that I have less than no use for.

[Impureclient]

They got 150 more in this morning and they are going fast. If you want one just call in, give a credit card and wait til more come in if the new batch goes. I just picked up two a few minutes ago.

[Skylerbone]

They got 149 more now.

[Shear_stress]

I've already got a K9 but picked one up anyway. The NYPD's loss is our gain.

[BullfrogKen]

You'll have to let us know how the NYPD Kahr compares to the one you have now.

[Shear_stress]

You'll have to let us know how the NYPD Kahr compares to the one you have now.

Will do. The one I've got is an K9 Elite 98, which has a slightly shorter and lighter trigger pull. Apart from that, I'm not hoping there won't be too much of a difference.

[Maia007]

I have a K9 standard trigger bought new several years ago and an NYPD NS black SS police surplus about six months ago. The NYPD was in excellent shape, with no wear whatsoever. $399. The night sights were several years old but still glowed enough to qualify.

The CDNN deal appears terrific for a great gun. I don't feel that the difference between the triggers is signficant. You either like the Kahr DA trigger or you don't.

[Girodin]

Mine came in yesterday but I wasn't able to go pick them up. I'm going to try to go get them today.

[dogsoldier0513]

My first Kahr was a K9. Heavy, but an AWESOME handgun. My daughter has it, now.

[Skylerbone]

I'll have mine in a few hours, should be a few reports back by tonight.

[Girodin]

Well I was pleasantly surprised to find that they were stainless guns rather than the matte blackened stainless. Often surplus guns have a lot of holster wear. Upon a cursory inspection they looked pretty good. The stainless should clean up well if there is much wear.

One had night sights that were still decently bright. The other had sights that were not just dim but basically didn't glow at all. I still feel like it is a good deal but had I known the night sights had NO life left at all I would have preferred to pay $299 for a gun without them rather than an extra $30 to get them. Like I said, its still a good buy but a little annoying. I expected dim but not non glowing.

Upon initial dry firing the trigger seems to be about like my other K9 but I have't compared side by side yet.

They look like they could use a good cleaning. One more so than the other. Overall they appear to be in good shape.

[ponchsox]

Just picked up my NYPD K9 w/ night sights. My initial thought when I opened the box is that mine was barely shot and is in near mint condition 9/10. Night sights have acceptable glow to them. I will do a complete field strip and clean tomorrow. At $329 this was a steal.

[Girodin]

I field stripped and cleaned one of them. It had a lot of gunk under the grips. Internally things looked good, very little discernible wear. The rubber grips on one side in one spot are worn smooth. It is on the left side of the gun near the rear of the grip. I would imagine it is wear from being carried. There are a few places that when one looks closely there are little nicks or light scratches. Overall though it is in very good shape. I still need to go shoot it but as of right now I am pretty pleased with it period. When I think that it was less than $350 OTD I feel really good about it.

I will strip and clean the other one another day. I have to try and get some real work done today.

[pikid89]

What a joke...my cw9's trigger, while nice and smoothe, would hardly qualify as light, and definitley not prone to accidental discharge...nypd must have no less than a dozen officers that should not be carrying guns

[ponchsox]

Girodin, what is the production date of yours? I called Kahr and they said 11/03.

[BullfrogKen]

While NYPD has a dozen officers who are not competent to carry a gun, they employ thousands who have never seen a gun up close until they got on the force.

Asking for a long, DA trigger heavier than what Kahr currently can produce might make the gun less prone to setting it off when the officer didn't intend. If they really want a gun incapable of a negligent discharge, they could give everyone a gun that doesn' work at all. A super-heavy, long DA only trigger is really hard to manage. Expect marksmanship to decline even further.


Oh well. If they want to get rid of all those nice Kahrs, I'm happy to help them do it.

[Girodin]

I'll try to look in the next few days. I noticed that the reason the front night sight on the one isn't glowing is that there simply is no lamp in the sight. There is just a hole in the sight.

[Skylerbone]

My sights glow, there are precious few scratches-most isolated to the barrel hood and there was a healthy coating of old gummed up oil under the grips. Looks to be some copper streaking in the barrel but nothing that can't be taken care of. The trigger on mine (by memory) feels a good 2 lbs. lighter than my father's CW9 and not heavy at all. Very pleased.

[blindhari]

If you go online to CDNN they will send you an email that coincides with all sales. No need to wait for paper to get to you. Just a little bit ago they sent me the ad for Smith M&P rebates.

blindhari

[BullfrogKen]

I picked mine up just a bit ago. Very nice trigger, extremely good condition, and I'm very pleased.

[CZguy]

I'm not at all familiar with this model of Khar. I recall that they are striker fired, can anyone describe what the trigger feels like?

The price sure is attractive.

[Snag]

can anyone describe what the trigger feels like?

I'll bite and give it a shot, no pun intended. Long, smooth, consistent, bit of stacking right at the end, easy to tell when it's about to break. That's how my Elite 98 felt anyway.

[BullfrogKen]

First impression after getting it home.

I've brought home dirtier guns from an IDPA match. This gun has barely been shot, and I've been around the block enough to know. I'd say this gun has 500 rounds thru it. And that is consistent with the amount of rounds I know most officers shoot through an issued gun.

The DA trigger is better than any revolver I've owned or shot. I own 4 Colt revolvers, a Ruger, and 3 Smiths. This trigger is better than all of them. It's better than the Sig 229 that I owned. It's simply awesome. It has some take up at the beginning, but is completely smooth the rest of the pull.


I cannot say how pleased I am to own this gun. Thank you Mayor Bloomberg for selling me a nearly new gun for a basement bargain price.

[Skylerbone]

If you Google a pic you'll see the trigger guard is sort of a two-ring affair. From rest there is take-up to the start of that second loop then about 1/2" of travel similar to a nice DA revolver followed by about 3/16" of overtravel. If I were guessing I'd say no more than 6 1/2 lbs. on mine but smooth enough to be deceptive.

I finished the clean up and got a lot of carbon from the extractor channel. I shudder to think.

[Impureclient]

They look like they could use a good cleaning. Understatement of the year, they are horribly dirty inside.

I picked up my two and started cleaning around 6 and finished around 9:30. One of them was so filled with thick sticky green grease on the firing pin, I don't know how it even moved after pulling the trigger. After removing the backing plate for the spring it felt like it was stuck in there and I was worried for a second. After removing all the thick grease inside they are great though. They appear to have been fired and just wiped down from the outside and little effort done to keep the insides clear of debrise. It looks like they maybe filled it full of oil on the interior and just wiped the exterior dry with a field strip. How that thick green grease got into the firing pin chamber, I don't know. Maybe the armorer just squirted it into the back of the slide where you see the firing pin spring until it started to ooze out of the hole where the pin exits to hit the primer. The extractor channel was full of gunk on both also. I actually felt sorry for the police officer who had the dirtier gun with the grease in the firing pin chamber. I can't imagine how the gun could even fire. As has been mentioned, the grips are worn some but no where near ready for a replacement. If they were replaced though, you'd be hard pressed to tell otherwise if it was used unless you really inspected it. The metal finish on the guns were almost new inside and out though after a good cleaning. Very little wear on the barrel and feed ramp if these guns really are nine years old. As far as the trigger, one of mine feels maybe a couple more pounds than my CW9, I guess around 10-11. I think my CW9 is close to the lower end ,7 lbs. that is mentioned about the Kahr triggers. The other one feels almost the same as my CW9. I can see that one being too light like the NY police dept. is claiming

[Skylerbone]

Ok, time for some pics.

After a bit of cleaning, case and "lock" compliments of CDNN.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=167507&stc=1&d=1341375471

A bit of that gunk described. There is oh-so-light surface rust in a few spots including the slide serrations, nothing a bit of Kroil won't take out.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=167508&stc=1&d=1341375521

After a quick wipe down and some copper remover, an immaculate barrel and (in the shadows) beautifully polished feed ramp (that feeds XTP hollow points BTW)

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=167509&stc=1&d=1341375521

And finally, the wee bit of surface wear I managed to find on the barrel hood. Most of it is polish wear with a bit of key scratching? mixed in.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=167510&stc=1&d=1341375521

After 28 years of gun ownership I can FINALLY say "I got a great deal!"

[BullfrogKen]

Skyler, your pictures aren't showing for me.


I just checked the date on the one I received. It's about 10 years old.


And it looks like it was hardly ever used.

[Impureclient]

Detail strip these guns when you get them. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7139/7499088968_f50f7e1fe6_c.jpg

[Snag]

Anyone else think the steel Kahr's are very sharp looking sexy guns? I just dig everything about them. The trigger guard, the font they use, the slide, the simple black rubber grips, etc, etc.

[toivo]

However, if I lived in NY it would likely concern me and not just make me happy that it has led to me getting a smoking deal on a good gun.

Well, here's the ironic part: CDNN won't sell handguns to NY residents. No way, no how.

I don't live in New York City. I live upstate and have my CCW permit. My FFL is a former LEO. It's all perfectly legit and legal, but they just won't do it.

Bloomberg scared them off. They caved to the antis. Cowards.

AIM and J&G get all my business now. They ain't scared. :neener:

[Shear_stress]

Just picked up my K9. I paid a little extra for one that came in the box, which was matching and still included all the original paperwork. The gun itself is in terrific condition for a service piece--a little holster polishing on the slide and frame and some light wear on the grip.

As for the trigger that was too "unsafe" for the NYPD? It is outstanding.

[BullfrogKen]

I agree. It is outstanding.

I took mine apart last night. There was some gunk under the grips, looked like carbon residue, some dirt and a little bit of stickiness that happens when certain types of cleaning solvents contacts rubber grips. It all came off quickly.

The slide had very little carbon in the striker area or other parts of the interior of the slide. The extractor channel needed a pipe cleaner run through it. But I saw no brass particles in it anywhere, and I see brass particles in all my guns after a big match or a training class.

I saw no copper build-up or residue in the barrel. In fact the chamber was clean as a whistle, and so was the barrel.


Carried a lot, shot a little. Pretty typical of police-issue guns. What a bargain!

[jeff-10]

Called this morning and they were out. :banghead:

Its unfortunate, I do not follow gun stuff as closely as I used to and I missed out. I've wanted a K9 for years. I asked the guy if they would get anymore in and he said he didn't know because its hard to stay with police trade ins.

I have a feeling, even if they get more in they won't be $300.

[BullfrogKen]

Try Gunbroker. Two hours ago a very good friend's wife just bought herself one for $389.00

[19-3Ben]

Anyone else think the steel Kahr's are very sharp looking sexy guns? I just dig everything about them. The trigger guard, the font they use, the slide, the simple black rubber grips, etc, etc.

Agreed. I hate that I just had to sell my K40 and want a K9 to replace it very very badly. They are fantastic guns.
You guys are making me jealous, lemme tell ya....

[BullfrogKen]

OK . . . So if you all are like me, you just bought a new carry gun and don't have a holster for it.


For a few years now I've had a local fellow, Joel Rybacki (http://www.thehighroad.org/member.php?u=103245), make leather for me. I've owned really nice stuff from Rusty Sherrick and Milt Sparks over the years, and the leather Joel has made for me has been every bit as good, without the ungodly long wait times. And his prices are a LOT less.


I called him this afternoon and told him a bunch of us just bought some Kahr K9s, and if I announced it here, would he be up for making a lot of leather in a big batch.

He said yes. So, next Thursday night I'm going to give him mine and have him start making me a strong side Outside the Waistband holster. He's also going to make my friend's wife a lady-friendly holster - the hips they have and all don't let our holsters work as nicely.


If you want one, say so here. Joel will check in and give price quotes.


Here's some examples of his other work -

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=7497759#post7497759


http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/adambrown69/P8080058.jpg


http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/sam1911/0910110025-1.jpg


http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=143733&stc=1&d=1307675698

[Shear_stress]

For a few years now I've had a local fellow, Joel Rybacki, make leather for me.

Beautiful leather there. Two questions: how much and how much more for a lefty?

[BullfrogKen]

He's always charged the same price for me, left or right handed.

It's going to depend on what you want. I've gotten several Sharkskin holsters for well less than $100.00.


In fact, that is my Hi Power in a nice custom made (to my specs) sharkskin. I bought enough shark hide for him to make me several right up front. Think that one might have cost me $60.00, but I don't remember for sure. It wasn't over $80.00, that much I do remember.

[Joel]

Keep in mind Ken, you paid for the skin so there was no exotic premium. My current prices can be found on my web site.

[BullfrogKen]

Yup, and it was one of the best decisions I ever made. Did we use it all up already?

[Skylerbone]

Either you guys just crashed the poor server or my phone's browser is, er, challenged. Time to fire up the PC. By the by, would anyone know how close a CW9 is to the K9? I know there's no border cut on the slide but haven't had the two side-by-side yet.

[BullfrogKen]

Joel,

I can't get your site to load for me, either. Call your ISP and yell at them. Unless they're in one of those areas that got hit by those destructive thunderstorms, in which was no one will answer.

Just post your prices here.


I think Joel owns a CW9, so in that case you're golden.

[Joel]

Switched name servers the other day and something got screwed up. I have corrected it but it could take a few hours to propagate to other name servers.

Yes, I own a CW9. The main differences are the flutes cut into the side of the K9 and P9 do not exist on the CW9, the CW9 has a traditional rifled barrel versus the polygonal barrel or the other two, and the take-down pin on the CW9 is MIP versus the milled version on the other two.

For those new owners of the K9, please be sure to remove the grip panels every so often and give the frame a good cleaning. If you do not, it will pit over time. I know from experience.

[Joel]

Just read through the thread. For those who want to convert this to the smooth and light elite trigger, you simply need to buy the elite trigger parts. Did this to my old K40 Covert. Everything was drop-in. There are plenty of how-tos on the web if you do a search.

[Joel]

Yup, and it was one of the best decisions I ever made. Did we use it all up already?

Nope, enough for another holster and maybe some bling on a few more.

[Skylerbone]

Just meant external dimensions wise but moot seeing as you've got one. Dad has one and is a southpaw to boot. Mentioning lefties and a batch of custom holsters for Kahrs got me thinking is all.

Speaking of funky Internet problems, and on topic for those who may communicate via the web (like when ordering holsters) now would be a good time to check for the DNS virus scheduled to hit Monday, July 9th. I'm sure Mr. Rybacki doesn't want dozens of holsters laying about without further means of communication. Having seen the above work I look forward to his site and thank you Ken for doing the legwork.

[BullfrogKen]

Site's working for me now, Joel.


I think we'll make this one a shark skin, too.

thank you Ken for doing the legwork.

Bah, no problem. Joel's a good friend. And I'm happy to promote an up-and-coming leather craftsman in the business who does exceptional work.


If you want one, order one. I'll let Joel keep my K9 as a model for as long as it takes to fulfill your orders. Well, until Fall anyway . . . so don't dither over it too long.

[Skylerbone]

Gotta bring this one back with a quick report. Passed the 700 round mark including 300 without cleaning or lubrication shooting hand loads (Hornady XTP HP). A few shots after disassembly and two of the feed ramp dirty/ after wiping with a dry t-shirt.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=173274&stc=1&d=1349918973

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=173275&stc=1&d=1349918973

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=173276&stc=1&d=1349919015

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=173277&stc=1&d=1349919015

[Skylerbone]

And one more after reassembly and polishing out the scratches on the barrel hood (from previous owner).

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=173278&stc=1&d=1349919222


As it came from CDNN:


http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=167510&d=1341375500

Looking forward to Joel getting caught up on orders (hope we didn't swamp him too bad). Hope everyones Kahrs are running as well and good luck to my fellow deer hunters gearing up for the weekend, I'm stoked!

[Arp32]

So is anyone tired of their $300 Kahr yet? I may be able to solve that problem for you.

(still kicking myself for not ordering one of these the day I read about it...)

[Skylerbone]

I got in on the second wave and kick myself for not buying a half dozen! Also, I just realized after scrolling past my own threads, why they have Hands Models...Yikes!