Which of these are good lights for an AR15?


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checkmyswag
June 29, 2012, 01:41 AM
http://www.streamlight.com/product/class.aspx?cid=10

What's a good way to mount them? I have a regular handguard, not a rail.

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C-grunt
June 29, 2012, 01:49 AM
All should be good. With the standard round handguards I would either buy a Magpul MOE forend (about 30 bucks and will have the necessary rails) or one of the rail blocks that attaches to the front sight base.

checkmyswag
June 29, 2012, 01:50 AM
Cool. I know surefire is all the range, but I'm happy with my current streamlights.

So the magpul light mounts are sturdy?

C-grunt
June 29, 2012, 10:46 AM
The MOE forend has little rail sections that you can attach on different places. You can then attach those lights to the rails. The front sight post rail attachments are made by other companies. I believe Midwest Industries makes some.

Creature
June 29, 2012, 11:49 AM
I had a TLR-1 before...but now I have the hand held version of the TLR-1 HP (the Super Tac-X) mounted to my carbine...and holy mackeral it is UBER BRIGHT!

http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/12/63/91/01/carbin10.jpg

I purchased the handheld version because I find it more versatile and easier to use especially when unmounted. It is also quite lightweight for it's size. I can remove it from the long gun rail mount in under five seconds. However when the light is mounted to my carbine, I find that the push button switch requires that I use a vertgrip.

wnycollector
June 29, 2012, 12:03 PM
Primary Arms has the Streamlight TRL1S (https://www.primaryarms.com/Streamlight_TLR1S_Weapon_Light_w_Strobe_STL69210_p/stl69210.htm) on sale for ~$90 now until 7/4.

This (http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_20/446092_Proper_use_of_weapons_lights_on_ARs.html) is a nice overview on the proper use of weapons lights on AR's.

basicblur
June 29, 2012, 12:06 PM
For another option:
CAA M4 Bayonet Lug Mount (http://www.botachtactical.com/iti.html).
KZ 952488 Bayonet Lug Mount (http://www.botachtactical.com/kz3balugmo.html)
And a few more. (http://botachtactical.commerce-search.net/search?keywords=bayonet+lug+mount)

I have a few of the KZ mounts, and so far, OK - don't think the CAA unit was available when I got my KZs.
I have a few of the TLR lights, and they are impressive. The did not have the TLR1S-HP (http://www.streamlight.com/product/product.aspx?pid=252) when I bought my lights, and I don't know if the big head would clear the barrel with my bayonet lug mounts. I do have a couple of their Super Tac X (http://www.streamlight.com/product/product.aspx?pid=221) lights, which are probably identical outputs / heads as the TLR1S-HP.

AFA Streamlights with the normal size head or the larger one, I guess it depends on how far you want the light to project, and if you want a laser along with the light?
The TLR1S-HP does throw the light farther out than the smaller head units - it probably has the same amount of peripheral light, but it throws such a bright center beam that your first reaction is it does not have as much peripheral light, but it does.

I've got a flashlight box that rivals my holster box. :banghead:
Surefire's are nice (I bought a few for comparison), but I can often get three Streamlights for the price of one Surefire, and the Surefire's ain't that much nicer than Streamlights.

BTW, I also have a Streamlight Nightfigher X (http://www.streamlight.com/product/product.aspx?pid=224) beside my bed gun, and keep a PT-2L (http://www.streamlight.com/product/product.aspx?pid=202) on my belt at all times, and in each of my vehicle glove boxes.

I've had pretty good luck pricewise with Optics Planet and Flashlight Distributor.com (https://www.flashlightdistributor.com/) AFA prices.

C-grunt
June 29, 2012, 12:16 PM
I use the supertac on my work rifle for the reason that it projects the light a lot farther than other lights. It's not the brightest light out there but I can easily identify a suspect at 100 yards with it.

Cosmoline
June 29, 2012, 01:55 PM
I just use a barrel clamp style mount and a surefire positioned where I can easily tap the back with my thumb. It's rock solid, cheap and simple. Midway sells them.

halogrinder
June 29, 2012, 01:59 PM
I like the tlr1s a lot! I have 3-4 of them. After owning 2 m600's, 2 910's and a scout, I have come to the conclusion that surefire cannot keep up with weapon light technology. A tlr1s will KILL any of the above surefires.

aubie515
June 29, 2012, 02:13 PM
I used to work for Streamlight...I personally use the Super Tac on my AR15...Streamlight management come up with some lame ass names for the lights, but the Super Tac does work well. I've had mine past 200 yards without issue.

ETA...SL offers a mount that's decent...it had "teeth" to lock the body of the light to the mount...I haven't had any issues with my mount. If you want a more inexpensive model...take a look at the poly tac.

basicblur
June 29, 2012, 02:18 PM
I have come to the conclusion that surefire cannot keep up with weapon light technology.
I'm not looking for someone pushing the envelope with light technology, as I want dependability first.

Surefire does seem to be a bit behind the curve, but I assume some of that is being a bit slower and cautious to adopt the latest / greatest?

My main problem with Surefire is their MAP pricing - it keeps their prices artificially inflated.

halogrinder
June 29, 2012, 03:26 PM
As do I, but will not stand to spend 500+ bucks on a light that puts out less power than a cheap plastic 2 dollar flashlight.


My TLRs have proven to be very dependable.

checkmyswag
June 29, 2012, 03:44 PM
Thanks all for the suggestions.

jim243
June 29, 2012, 04:03 PM
Too each their own, use just what you think is best.

Jim


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Captains1911
June 29, 2012, 04:05 PM
I have 2 Streamlight TLR-1s and they are excellent for the price.

basicblur
June 29, 2012, 05:00 PM
I've been putting off ordering another Super Tac X, and noticed their new ProTac HL (http://www.streamlight.com/product/product.aspx?pid=254), so I figured what the heck...might as well try it instead of another Super Tac.

Yeah...it's a bit of personal experimention...I'm curious to see how much light it puts out after reading a few reviews and checking the specs. If it puts out a lot more than the Super Tac...well, I think I'll be officially off the deep end!

Got it for $65.83 delivered from Flashlight Distributor.com.

MistWolf
June 29, 2012, 09:43 PM
Try one of these
http://battlecomp.com/store/images/MMM%20X300.jpg
http://battlecomp.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13&products_id=51

I really like mine
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n289/SgtSongDog/AR%20Carbine/CarbineSurefire002.jpg

basicblur
July 6, 2012, 07:33 PM
I just got my Pro Tac HL in yesterday - last night I compared it with my Nightfighter X & Super Tac X, and it's definitely bright (I think I hurt myself).

It's darn near as powerful as the Super Tac X's center spot, but with tons more peripheral light - there appear to be no dark circles or rings in the light pattern.

A LOT more light than the Nightfighter X, but we're at a point where one has to ask just how much light do I really need?

DBR
July 6, 2012, 07:45 PM
The Olight M30 is worth a look. 700 lumen and very good beam shape.

Cosmoline
July 6, 2012, 09:50 PM
Try one of these

Neat! But if your light hangs out too far--doesn't it get burned by the blast?

Slimbo
July 6, 2012, 10:59 PM
We aren't talking throwing it in a kiln, look at pistols with mounted lights, 99.9% of them place the end of the light past the muzzle.. I have a tlr1s that i switch between my glock 21 and the AR, its a great light for the money.

madcratebuilder
July 7, 2012, 08:00 AM
I must be the only one that uses stick matches:neener:

sgtstryker
July 7, 2012, 09:03 PM
Yeah, I have an elZetta mount with Surefire G2 on my carbine. Not the most expensive but works well enough. Very light, too. A buddy has a Super-Tac and it does put out some light..

basicblur
July 7, 2012, 10:14 PM
A buddy has a Super-Tac and it does put out some light..
Just a FYI for him (if he's interested) - tell him the Pro Tac HL puts out a LOT more peripheral light than the Super Tac. If I light up my back yard with the Pro Tac HL, then use the Super Tac, I can tell the Super Tac is slightly brighter, but only at the center, where it has it's tightly focused beam.

68wj
July 7, 2012, 11:10 PM
Just a FYI for him (if he's interested) - tell him the Pro Tac HL puts out a LOT more peripheral light than the Super Tac. If I light up my back yard with the Pro Tac HL, then use the Super Tac, I can tell the Super Tac is slightly brighter, but only at the center, where it has it's tightly focused beam.
Yeah, I have used both and the HL is very bright and much more compact. The Super Tac does make better use of the more limited light output with a very focused beam though. With the HL, it has a good beam and light to spare. Some pics here: http://68forums.com/forums/showthread.php?29374-Streamlight-Protac-HL-review

basicblur
July 7, 2012, 11:31 PM
I went through your review - apparently, they've changed the included pouch, as the flap on mine is long enough to engage the entire Velcro patch on the pouch body.

I also note the pictures don't seem to do it justice - your 25 yard pix does not appear to show how much peripheral light this light really throws out- heck, I believe the center spot at 25 yards is brighter than the picture appears.

Mebbe cameras just don't do flashlight pix well?

68wj
July 8, 2012, 09:20 AM
I went through your review - apparently, they've changed the included pouch, as the flap on mine is long enough to engage the entire Velcro patch on the pouch body.

I also note the pictures don't seem to do it justice - your 25 yard pix does not appear to show how much peripheral light this light really throws out- heck, I believe the center spot at 25 yards is brighter than the picture appears.

Mebbe cameras just don't do flashlight pix well?That's true, the human eye is a great thing, and the HL is very bright. With the camera I chose a reasonable setting and the best you can do is compare the several different models to each other (hopefully you are familiar with one of them to use as a benchmark). Good to hear that they corrected the pouch issue.

basicblur
July 8, 2012, 04:01 PM
Good to hear that they corrected the pouch issue.
You ought to get in touch with 'em and let 'em know you need the correct pouch for the light.

The Velcro for my PT-2L pouch gave it up long before it should have - they relented and sent me a new one. I may not have minded paying $5 or so for a new pouch, but it would probably have been $10 shipping from most vendors, if you could find one.

68wj
July 8, 2012, 06:04 PM
You ought to get in touch with 'em and let 'em know you need the correct pouch for the light.

The Velcro for my PT-2L pouch gave it up long before it should have - they relented and sent me a new one. I may not have minded paying $5 or so for a new pouch, but it would probably have been $10 shipping from most vendors, if you could find one.
I should just send them a pic of my SureFire G2X in it instead. It seems to fit better. :D

basicblur
July 8, 2012, 10:12 PM
Pro Tac HL reviewer on Amazon says the Pelican 2327 holster (http://www.amazon.com/Pelican-Cordura-Holsters-MityLite-2320-703-110/dp/B0048KH6DW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1341786184&sr=8-1&keywords=Pelican+2327) will work, but it has a pocket for two spare CR123 batteries (good or bad).

I wonder if they make the same holster sans battery pouch?

checkmyswag
July 10, 2012, 07:24 PM
Probably going to go with the TLR 1S

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SwissArmyDad
July 11, 2012, 12:32 PM
See that you might have made your choice, but I thought I'd share the link to my thread about the Elzetta that a few have mentioned already.

You say you have a regular forend, and not a rail, but do you have an A2 front sight, by chance? If so, it might be a good option that won't. :)

I gave it a quick review and posted some pics...

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=667391

Captains1911
July 12, 2012, 05:29 PM
TLR-1s is a good choice, much lighter weight than man of the suggested alternatives and plenty bright.

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