Question for the glock guys..


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Spawn91
July 3, 2012, 06:49 AM
My buddy has a g22 gen4. He claims the ejected casings are flying back behind him and sometimes hit him in the face.. I'm not sure if he is exaggerating about the contact with his head but my question is.. What direction should the casings be flying out, behind him or to the right like say my hk's do.. He swears the gun is faulty and needs to be sent back to glock.. It's hasn't even been broken in yet I tell him. But he is bullheaded and thinks he knows everything

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distra
July 3, 2012, 06:59 AM
My G22 (gen 3) ejects the casings to the right, not at my head. It is likely the extractor or ejector may need adjustment. I would call Glock, they will likely fix it.

wildehond
July 3, 2012, 07:11 AM
He must just make sure he has the right ejector installed in the gun. There is a number stamped on the ejector. He should be able to confirm that with one of the Glock armourors in his area. Glocks do not really need braking-in.

hentown
July 3, 2012, 07:34 AM
The ejector should have 30274 stamped on it. If not, then it should be replaced.

Hunter125
July 3, 2012, 07:38 AM
Not sure about the Gen 4, but my dad has a Gen 1 or 2 G17 that often ejects brass straight up or straight back. He has never done any work to it and bought it new, so I'm fairly certain it is the factory ejector.

Fotno
July 3, 2012, 10:28 AM
Generally the Gen4 Glocks exhibiting this problem are 9mm not 40S&W models, although I'm sure it could happen with the G22. I'm fairly certain that the new 30274 9mm ejector won't fit the G22.

9mmepiphany
July 3, 2012, 11:32 AM
It is an ongoing problem with the Gen4 9mm Glocks, but this is the first I've heard about it with a .40 one.

Glock's CS response has ranged from denial, to sending out replacement parts to asking that the gun be sent in.

There is an after market fix (extractor) in the works which is in beta testing (http://10-8training.blogspot.com/)

For the OP, I'd contact Glock first...it is definitely not an unknown issue

Fotno
July 3, 2012, 12:44 PM
There is an after market fix (extractor) in the works which is in beta testing (http://10-8training.blogspot.com/)



I'll be keeping an eye out for this...

Spawn91
July 3, 2012, 11:02 PM
Well I had him check the ejector numbers.. 28926.. Does that mean anything to anyone?

Fotno
July 4, 2012, 12:01 AM
28926 should be the correct Gen4 ejector for your buddy's pistol.

Spawn91
July 4, 2012, 08:38 AM
Lol I'm sure glad I shoot h&ks, never ever an issue since day one

txgunsuscg
July 4, 2012, 09:40 AM
I could conjecture all day long, but without seeing the gun and running it through the diagnostic list, I can't really tell you. You should have him take it to an armorer. I know my friend's 9mm does this, and I'll be working on it soon, as well as my own Glock (an early Gen4 23), which still has some of the first gen parts in it.

Spawn91
July 4, 2012, 11:57 AM
So if the ejector is correct , what is causing it to fly straight back .. He said not all of them but half or more come back at him and the dirtier the gun gets the more it's doin it and he says out of a box of 50, an average of 1-2 hitting him in the forehead.. I know that I would not like that

Fotno
July 4, 2012, 12:48 PM
Since these 'erratic extractions' began (coinciding the introduction of the Gen4 models according to most people), there have been a lot of theories. You could spend a week over on the Glock Talk forums just reading the conjecture threads, and still not be done.

Some say it's the ejector, some the new MIM extractor, some the RSA; and some say that it's a combination of all those factors. Personally, I think Glock made too many changes too soon, and the result has been unpredictable performance.

I have a Gen3 G30 that is as reliable as the sunrise, that practically stacks empties up in a tidy little pile; and a Gen4 G26 that will randomly fling a case back at my head about once every third magazine. Guess which one I shoot more? The G26 has never failed to feed or eject, it's just a little unpredictable when it comes to where that empty is headed.

kingkeoni
July 4, 2012, 12:50 PM
I'm left handed, so I've often felt the cruel sting of hot brass to the forehead.

It happens.

9mmepiphany
July 4, 2012, 03:26 PM
So if the ejector is correct , what is causing it to fly straight back .. He said not all of them but half or more come back at him and the dirtier the gun gets the more it's doin it and he says out of a box of 50, an average of 1-2 hitting him in the forehead.. I know that I would not like that
Refer to post #7.

Here (http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=92447) is a more in-depth explanation

Trent
July 5, 2012, 07:10 PM
I've had to replace the RSA on my 2nd gen glock after ~40k rounds.

Getting hit in the forehead with hot brass became my signal to get a new spring. :)

Shame to hear it's happening on brand NEW guns though. That's not right.

FMF Doc
July 5, 2012, 09:25 PM
I found that when I shot 124 gr NATO (hotter than regular 124gr) in rapid fire I would sometimes catch a few in the head. That is why I wear a hat when I go shooting :)

atomd
July 6, 2012, 10:56 AM
Both my Gen4 22 and my Gen4 17 eject brass at around 4-4:30 reliably. They both came with the most recent ejectors in them. When shooting extremely light reloads with the factory rsa, they might eject straight up sometimes (not the fault of gun though).

oso
July 6, 2012, 04:15 PM
Hmmmm, from what i have heard from all the Glock guys, Glocks don't have any issues ever.

Trent
July 6, 2012, 04:58 PM
Every time I shoot mine I run myself clean out of ammo. I consider that a big issue.

;)

GLOOB
July 6, 2012, 05:17 PM
Hmmmm, from what i have heard from all the Glock guys, Glocks don't have any issues ever.
They don't. The OP is obviously limpwristing. :P

Shipwreck
July 6, 2012, 05:24 PM
I had a G17 RTF2 that did this no matter what I had done to it. I finally got sick of it

Spawn91
July 8, 2012, 09:20 AM
Well here's my update.. Somehow this g22 was put together with the wrong extractor .. We compared it to 2 other brand new g22's and the one and it was different then the 2 new ones.. The one my buddy has is only 2 months old.it got sent it back to glock

M1key
July 8, 2012, 12:20 PM
Good information. Hope it will fix the problem.

M

readyeddy
July 9, 2012, 10:52 PM
This is a common problem with Glocks. The problem is with the extractor. The fix is to sand paper both flat sides of the extractor and to polish the round portion. Basically smooth out all surfaces that are in contact with the gun.

Here's a discussion that's lengthy, but it worked for me.

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1402990

coolluke01
July 9, 2012, 11:53 PM
Don't be sanding things on your Glock. Just call them with the number off the part and they will replace the part.
All this talk about denial and not knowing what's wrong is retarded. Call Glock 1-770-432-1202. They will be very helpful.
Issues with the extractor and ejector came out late in the Gen 3 area and carried over into the Gen 4. With the newly designed parts you will not have any problem with erratic ejection.

9mmepiphany
July 10, 2012, 02:46 AM
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All this talk about denial and not knowing what's wrong is retarded.
... With the newly designed parts you will not have any problem with erratic ejection.
Did you even follow the link in post #7?

coolluke01
July 10, 2012, 10:02 AM
I hadn't because I thought it was just an add for a after market part.

I have sent a Gen 4 26 back because of this issue. They replaced both the extractor and the ejector. I think the latter may be the main culprit with random or rearward ejections.
I know others that have done the same and have no more issues. There's nothing magical about it. If the part works is works. Why wouldn't it work on all if it works on some? And how would another aftermarket part work on all if the gun it's self is out of spec?
I have a new Gen 4 34 with the proper parts in it and it's been flawless.

I take with a grain of salt what some say on the internet when they are also trying to sell a product. I don't know this person and can't put much stock in what they say because I believe they are peddling a product.

From what I can see they have the issue taken care of. Or on the chance they haven't, call them for new parts before you take the sanding wheel to them.

9mmepiphany
July 10, 2012, 05:56 PM
I don't know this person and can't put much stock in what they say because I believe they are peddling a product.
Are you referring to Tim Lau and 10-8 Consulting :confused:

Might you be more familiar with Hilton Yam and 10-8 Performance?
http://www.10-8performance.com/

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