Good bulk FMJ .224 FMJ bullets and a place to buy them?


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HOOfan_1
July 9, 2012, 11:32 AM
So I want to strat feeding my AR some cheaper reloads, but I am having a hard time finding economical FMJ bullets in stock.

My LGS has Proofmark brand 55 gr. FMJ for $55/500.
Anyone know of a good brand and a good place to buy them. I'd rather pay a couple more cents per bullet for better quality than just shoot anything. The American Eagle 55gr. FMJ factory loads shot well out of my rifle.

Most of the places that have the bullets at a decent price are out of stock.

How about a good powder? I already have and use H335 for a single shot .223.

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MtnCreek
July 9, 2012, 11:43 AM
Hornady 55 fmj seem to be about the best quality for a good price. If you can't find them in stock, shoot me a pm and I may be able to help.

I'm loading them w/ IMR 8208. Shoots good (shoots great w/ smk's) and meters like a dream.

oneounceload
July 9, 2012, 11:47 AM
Remington from Cabela's:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Reloading/Reloading-Components|/pc/104792580/c/104761080/sc/104275080/Remington174-Bulk-Rifle-Bullets-Per-500/705232.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshooting-reloading-reloading-components%2Fremington%2F_%2FN-1100194%2B1000004470%2B4294740707%2FNe-1000004470%3FWTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNU&WTz_l=Unknown%3Bcat104275080

NeuseRvrRat
July 9, 2012, 11:47 AM
pat's reloading has 1000 hornady 55 gr fmj bullets for $87

H335 is probably the most popular for bulk .223 for an AR. you can buy pulldown WC844 from pat's. it is the military equivalent to H335. they suggest starting 10% below H335 starting load. some report more variation from lot to lot with the military pulldown powder.

http://www.patsreloading.com/patsrel/prices.aspx

Hacker15E
July 9, 2012, 12:09 PM
http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=7234&dir=278|281|1081|1141

M193, $45 per 500.

angus6
July 9, 2012, 12:09 PM
Wideners has the 6000 pc pack instock for $485 shipped

J_McLeod
July 9, 2012, 02:38 PM
I get all my jacketed bullets from Rocky Mountain or Montana Gold. Both are great to do business with. Since you were looking for 55gr, if you buy a case from Montana Gold, it comes out to $40/500.

www.shopr.rmrbullets.com

http://www.montanagoldbullet.com/

Wildbillz
July 9, 2012, 04:06 PM
Two of my favorit places.

http://www.goldenwestbrass.com

http://www.hi-techammo.com

Hi-Tech will have pull down bullets from time to time and if you catch them when the market is right and buy in bulk?

WB

blarby
July 9, 2012, 04:07 PM
check RMR

mustanggt
July 10, 2012, 10:57 AM
Buffalo Arms. I just bought a 1000 for .08c apiece. Don't let the site fool you its not just about BPCR and cowboy action products.

ZXD9
July 10, 2012, 01:41 PM
+1 on Hornady FMJ's. Been pretty accurate in my AR. I always buy from Midway USA but I'm sure there are plenty of others places you can get them. Buy in bulk and save.

TaxPhd
July 10, 2012, 03:55 PM
Right now, the Hornady's from Wideners are the BEST deal going. If you don't need 6,000 find a buddy to split them with.

Legion489
July 10, 2012, 04:38 PM
Well I was going to say Widener's too. They stand behind their stuff too. I bought some bullets from them and got half the order. I waited and waited and never got the rest. I finally called and asked when I would get the rest? The nice lady said I should have got one box of bullets and that was it. I said it was half the order. She asked how I knew and I replied that while I didn't count the bullets, I knew what 1,000 bullets weighed and what 2,000 bullets weighed and if they would check the shipping weight they could see how many bullets were shipped. There was a pause, then "I'm sorry sir! We will ship the other half of your order right out!" and they did. The one and only problem I have had with them over many years.

HOOfan_1
July 10, 2012, 05:15 PM
Well I was going to say Widener's too.

so far they look pretty good on prices

medalguy
July 11, 2012, 02:51 AM
Just got a sale bulletin from Wideners: 5,000 for $435 and THEY pay the freight. Under 9 cents each delivered to your door.

http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=7235&dir=

eam3clm@att.net
July 11, 2012, 09:47 AM
I have mostly used winchester componets (Hornady bullets), since I started reloading. Last year, or the year before cant remember, I ordered some Winchester FMJ bullets to feed my 223 AR15. These were the worst bullets that I ever tried, including the bulk pulled bullets I purchase at a gunshow. Some were round nose and others were pointed. The bases on most were not completly filled out. I switched back to Hornady.

MtnCreek
July 11, 2012, 01:01 PM
Winchester rifle fmj's are not very good, but I do like their pistol fmj's. IMHO, Remington 55gr FMJ's are the worst I've used. Hornady's are the best I've used and if they can be had for ~$0.09/ea shipped, that's a pretty good deal.

HOOfan_1
July 11, 2012, 01:11 PM
Wish I could get 500 or 1000 from Wideners. Not sure if I want to spend almost $500 on bullets all at once.

Steve in PA
July 11, 2012, 01:52 PM
When they have them in stock, I always buy Windener's milspec 55gr FMJ bullets. Quite happy with them.

zxcvbob
July 11, 2012, 02:00 PM
I really like the bullets I got from goldenwestbrass.com but they are out of everything and have been for months. (I think their machines are broken down)

Check out the Hornady FMJ's at grafs.com -- especially if you have a dealer account.

HOOfan_1
July 12, 2012, 09:41 AM
ICheck out the Hornady FMJ's at grafs.com -- especially if you have a dealer account.

Thanks, that one looks like a winner

dbarnhart
July 13, 2012, 12:06 AM
When they have them in stock, you can get M193 pulldowns from www.hi-techammo.com for $49 per thousand if you buy a few thousand at a time.

rondog
July 13, 2012, 02:23 AM
I just found out about this place, I think they're a fairly new startup co., but they make their own bullets. So far just .223's and 9mm's, but maybe they'll grow and expand. http://www.bulletheads.com/

J_McLeod
July 13, 2012, 08:53 PM
I just found out about this place, I think they're a fairly new startup co., but they make their own bullets. So far just .223's and 9mm's, but maybe they'll grow and expand. http://www.bulletheads.com/
They have good prices, I might buy some. Has anyone used them before and know about the quality?

rcmodel
July 13, 2012, 09:07 PM
but they make their own bullets. They ain't making 55 grain FMJ-BT's I betcha.

These are factory over runs from some bullet manufacture somewhere.

rc

RustyFN
July 13, 2012, 09:49 PM
Montana Gold. They have 3,500 for $280 shipped.

hentown
July 14, 2012, 09:55 AM
I do a lot of bulk loading for my ARs. The absolute worst bullets I ever used were bulk Winchestger and Remington 55gr fmj bullets. The absolute best were IMI 55gr fmjbt from Wideners, but haven't seen those particular bullets @ Wideners for several years now.

I'm having great success with Montana Gold, and that's what I'm using now. Pretty sure they're about $.08 each, shipped.

HOOfan_1
July 14, 2012, 12:34 PM
OK, maybe I should start a new thread for this but, I'll try here anyway.

Does 25 grains of H335 sound like too hot of a starting load for 55 grain FMJ?

I am using Federal American Eagle .223 Rem cases, CCI Small Rifle primers.

Chamber is 5.56x45, 16" carbine gas system, PSA Heavy buffer

J_McLeod
July 14, 2012, 01:34 PM
OK, maybe I should start a new thread for this but, I'll try here anyway.

Does 25 grains of H335 sound like too hot of a starting load for 55 grain FMJ?

I am using Federal American Eagle .223 Rem cases, CCI Small Rifle primers.

Chamber is 5.56x45, 16" carbine gas system, PSA Heavy buffer
According to Hodgdon, that's close to max load. Their data for that combo is 23.0-25.3gr.

http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

HOOfan_1
July 14, 2012, 01:39 PM
Some other sources have 26 as max load. I've found Hogdon to be generally more conservative than others.

J_McLeod
July 14, 2012, 01:54 PM
Yeah, Lyman has 24.3-27.0

RustyFN
July 14, 2012, 11:07 PM
OK, maybe I should start a new thread for this but, I'll try here anyway.

Does 25 grains of H335 sound like too hot of a starting load for 55 grain FMJ?

I am using Federal American Eagle .223 Rem cases, CCI Small Rifle primers.

Chamber is 5.56x45, 16" carbine gas system, PSA Heavy buffer

I don't think it's too hot but if you don't start low and work up you might miss the good load for your rifle. For example I shoot a stock Rock River 16" gas system and my most accurate load is a 55 grain bullet with 24.7 grains of H-335.

Hondo 60
July 15, 2012, 02:06 AM
http://www.hi-techammo.com/

They have 55gr FMJs for $32/500

I like 26.0 gr of Varget. ;)

blarby
July 15, 2012, 03:21 AM
Starting, yes. Ya never know.

Starting hot is bad.

You can always work up.

You can't work down shrapnel.

Well, you can.... but surgery is way more expensive than testing 5 different loads to find your max via pressure signs.

rondog
July 15, 2012, 04:17 AM
I like 26.0 gr of Varget.

That's my preference too. Basically powder right up to the bottom of the neck. Funny, on the Varget bottle label it says 27 gr., which is damn near overflowing the case!

RustyFN
July 15, 2012, 12:11 PM
http://www.hi-techammo.com/

They have 55gr FMJs for $32/500

I like 26.0 gr of Varget.

You might have a different experience than me but I can't get the pulled surplus bullets to group very well.

BulletHeads
August 1, 2012, 09:00 PM
but they make their own bullets.
They ain't making 55 grain FMJ-BT's I betcha.

These are factory over runs from some bullet manufacture somewhere.

rc
We are, I betcha... :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aicph68CEu8

Walkalong
August 1, 2012, 09:17 PM
So how would you say they compare to other commonly sold 55 Gr FMJ bullets out there?

Inquiring minds want to know. :)

greyling22
August 1, 2012, 09:19 PM
they may not be the very cheapest surplus pulls, but midway's dogtown and midsouth's varmint nightmare have worked well for me. I've got them to do less than an inch if everything else is right. The VN's are cheaper. Last time I bought a thousand shipping was around $11 I think.

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/searchMSS.asp?searchInfo=varmint+nightmare

BulletHeads
August 1, 2012, 09:52 PM
So how would you say they compare to other commonly sold 55 Gr FMJ bullets out there?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Anyone would think I have a bias opinion of my own bullets so I figure it doesn't count for much anyway.:D

Customers can use up to 50 bullets from the package and if they're not happy send em back for a refund.

Walkalong
August 1, 2012, 10:14 PM
Fair enough. :)

BulletHeads
August 2, 2012, 12:46 AM
Anyone buying .223 55gr or 62gr reloading bullets from a catalog is overpaying. I run a pretty lean shop and will beat the pants off any of their prices.

dc.fireman
August 2, 2012, 01:03 AM
We are, I betcha... :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aicph68CEu8
Doh!

LOL...

glockky
August 2, 2012, 07:44 AM
I would try mid south shooters supply I really like there varmint nightmares. They shoot great in my AR loaded with H335. They are right at $100 a 1000 shipped to you door.

zxcvbob
August 2, 2012, 10:47 AM
BH,
I've bookmarked your site for next time I need bullets (but that's gonna be a while cuz I just ordered 1500, and I had 1300 already.) I wouldn't say "beats the pants off" but your prices are certainly competitive with the best deals I can find, especially if that's the shipped price.

Do you do 150 grain bullets for .30-06 and .308?

shuvelrider
August 2, 2012, 11:52 AM
Graf & Sons carries the Armscor brand of bullet also, pack of 100 bullet .224 55gr fmj for around 8-9 dollars. Made in the Phillipines, been using them for my range ammo and have had good luck with them. Pull up the site for a bulk price or call them, 4.99 flat rate shipping also.

BulletHeads
August 2, 2012, 03:20 PM
Do you do 150 grain bullets for .30-06 and .308?

I plan on getting into 308 sometime next year.

glockky
August 2, 2012, 03:58 PM
whats your shipping BulletHeads

BulletHeads
August 2, 2012, 05:01 PM
whats your shipping BulletHeads

All prices on my website include shipping to anywhere in the USA.

mdemetz
August 2, 2012, 06:19 PM
Graf & Sons carries the Armscor brand of bullet also, pack of 100 bullet .224 55gr fmj for around 8-9 dollars. Made in the Phillipines, been using them for my range ammo and have had good luck with them. Pull up the site for a bulk price or call them, 4.99 flat rate shipping also.

Grafs is out of stock. Thier flat rate is now $5.95 .

pslater
August 3, 2012, 10:11 PM
Try the 'brassman' out of LV. 4,000 55gr. Armscor for $315. I shoot the 62 gr. SS109's and love 'em

http://store.valueweb.com/servlet/brassma1/-strse-567/%28BULa4%29-223-fdsh-224--dsh--55/Detail

mstreddy
August 3, 2012, 11:14 PM
Bulletheads,

Glad to see you on this forum/site. I recently ordered some 55 grainers from you via an auction on Gunbroker. They look great, I haven't loaded them up yet, but very nice looking rounds.

Will be on the look out for the 30 cal when you bring them out.

Thanks,
Eddy M

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