9mm TC encore carbine suppressor advice


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R.W.Dale
July 9, 2012, 11:41 PM
Ill freely admit I know nothing about the cans themselves so if you guys would take the time to suggest some makes and models I'd greatly appreciate it.

Here's THE PLAN
1-Collect underpants
2-????
3-Profit

Now in case that doesn't work I have a plan B it involves ordering a 16.5" match grade machine encore barrel, standard contour, chambered for 9x19mm, threaded 1/2x28 at the muzzle.

Overall cost is a concern and I'd prefer the barrel/suppressor combo to come in shorter than a 24" rifle barrel.

What are some user cleanable cans that are effective and durable that meet these criteria? Preferably under $400. Primary use will be plinking, some limited critter elimination and of course getting addicted to another even more expensive aspect of shooting.

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rjrivero
July 10, 2012, 11:58 AM
Choose one from one of the big players: AAC Ti-Rant, SWR Octane-9, Gemtech Multimount all come to mind. (The Osprey-9 being eccentric would look kind of funny on a thompson center rifle, IMVHO.) However, they are one and all over your $400 price point.

You can easily make 24" with a 16" barrel and the suppressor, so that shouldn't be an issue.

R.W.Dale
July 10, 2012, 05:26 PM
I'm not wedded to $400 but bang per Buck is a concern.

My barrel was ordered today. Medium contour,16.5",matte finish,shilen blank,1/2x28 threads.

Should be entertaining even before I get a suppressor

Prince Yamato
July 12, 2012, 01:29 PM
The AAC Eco-9 and Thompson Machine Isis and Isis 2 are all under $500 MSRP. Those are what you'd be looking for. I have an ECO-9 and I can attest that it is a really good silencer. It isn't user cleanable (ie take-apart) but that's not the big deal everyone makes it out to be. The Isis 2 is a take-apart can.

BLAKEinTX
July 12, 2012, 02:52 PM
Ive got an Isis and I love it. I use it on my auto Glock and Encore with 38 WCs but I prefer my customers Mystic on it. But for a good, cheap, lightweight can its hard to beat an Isis which takes multimount pattern mounts same as the Mystic. The TM QMFII takes all the Isis mounts and sounds pretty good shooting 9mm through it.

Blake

Odd Job
July 12, 2012, 02:55 PM
R.W. Dale do you have a link to a similar carbine, I would like to see what it looks like (doesn't have to be suppressed).
Thanks

R.W.Dale
July 12, 2012, 03:21 PM
R.W. Dale do you have a link to a similar carbine, I would like to see what it looks like (doesn't have to be suppressed).
Thanks

Not off the top of my head but I recall seeing a pic thread for suppressed TC's a couple of pages into ar15.com's suppressor forum

Ive got an Isis and I love it. I use it on my auto Glock and Encore with 38 WCs but I prefer my customers Mystic on it. But for a good, cheap, lightweight can its hard to beat an Isis which takes multimount pattern mounts same as the Mystic. The TM QMFII takes all the Isis mounts and sounds pretty good shooting 9mm through it.

Blake

Is the leading issue with cast from a carbine a concern or is it overstated by the time a bullet makes it the 16" to the end of a carbine bbl?

BLAKEinTX
July 12, 2012, 03:49 PM
If you are goin to shoot cast then get a can you take apart to clean. The Isis, QMF, and Mystic all come apart idk about the AAC I dont really care for AAC. Ive had no issue with cast myself from my encore and the only thing I hear about it is that its dirtier

R.W.Dale
July 15, 2012, 03:06 AM
I know one thing. If it weren't for you guys and the various suppressor forums I'd be sol merely relying on the absolutely worthless non information given on the manufacturers websites.

Sure they have lots of slick slow to load high Res graphics and pics. Too bad their little one sentence blurb about each models awesomeness gives absolutely no facts to make me select their $700 product over someone else's. I have to resort to Google hits on forums to find out the most basic things like. "Is it a dry or wet suppressor" and "what are the mounting options"

REALLY

BLAKEinTX
July 16, 2012, 05:45 PM
The new Isis2 is $359 then with the FBA its $55 but it takes all Multimount style adapters

R.W.Dale
July 16, 2012, 06:07 PM
What's the consensus on the YHM wraith.

Its looking like I don't really have a selection as everyone in my state either carries these or gemtech

BLAKEinTX
July 17, 2012, 10:36 PM
The Wraith XL in 9mm is pretty nice shot one on a 9mm SBR pretty quiet and they rate them for 357 mag so if you ever got a 77/357 or a Handi in 357 youd be good to go on that one and I think stalking rhino industries can jailbreak them so you can clean it

R.W.Dale
July 17, 2012, 11:18 PM
So in your opinion would being a sealed can be a deal breaker?

I have a line on a Isis but it'll be an across the state type thing vs dealing with the local pawnshop

I have a 357 mag rolling block don't think for a decontrolling I wont thread it and combine tacticool w Victorian era goodness

BLAKEinTX
July 20, 2012, 02:20 AM
No not really a bad thing

Stalking Rhino can jailbreak it so you can take it apart if you would like or you can send it back to YHM and have them clean it

and to jailbreak it all you have to do is have your dealer ship it with a copy of the form 3 its on to SRI they jailbreak and send it back when its done then you dont have to wait the nth months to possess it and then ship to SRI

If you want to shoot it on a pistol I would say go with the IsisII or Mystic(or Infinti) because they take multimount adapters

Also get what you want on a bbl from MGM in writing they messed up my barrel not bad or anything but i was kind of butthurt about it :(

I asked for the standard twist rate for 357MAX which is usually 1-14 or 1-16 they gave me 1-18 so i have to check for stability on the heavy bullets everytime i try a new one out :(

I asked for the barrel to be threaded 1/2x28 they did 9/16x24 had to buy a new mount :(

But its an awesome bbl and will order another but will get everything on paper

They also fit the barrel to your action at no charge just ship it and they pay SH back

rjrivero
July 20, 2012, 10:40 AM
So in your opinion would being a sealed can be a deal breaker?

I have a line on a Isis but it'll be an across the state type thing vs dealing with the local pawnshop

I have a 357 mag rolling block don't think for a decontrolling I wont thread it and combine tacticool w Victorian era goodness
For a pistol can, I wouldn't buy a sealed can. Not with all the take down cans available these days. Why pay SRI $300 to jailbreak your sealed can when you can buy one that is already user serviceable?

Be aware that if you're buying a can across state lines, you'll have to have it sent to your in state FFL/SOT to do the transfer anyway, so you're probably going to end up paying a transfer charge to your local Class 3 NFA Dealer anyway. Find out the charge for that service and keep that in mind as you look around.

Gtscotty
July 21, 2012, 12:04 AM
I think the Huntertown Arm's Guardian 9 would also fit in your budget, and is user serviceable. The Guardian 9 is also listed as having steel baffles, and that's generally viewed as a plus. As a disclaimer, I don't have any first hand experience with suppressors, as I've just ordered my first last week ( SS Sparrow). I did research makers for around a year before I bought, and Huntertown Arm's was one of the makers I was considering before I got a deal on the Sparrow.

R.W.Dale
July 21, 2012, 02:58 PM
I think the Huntertown Arm's Guardian 9 would also fit in your budget, and is user serviceable. The Guardian 9 is also listed as having steel baffles, and that's generally viewed as a plus. As a disclaimer, I don't have any first hand experience with suppressors, as I've just ordered my first last week ( SS Sparrow). I did research makers for around a year before I bought, and Huntertown Arm's was one of the makers I was considering before I got a deal on the Sparrow.

Thanks for the heads up about huntertown arms. They'd slipped under my radar but they're price and features are great. Best of all they have a dealer not three miles from my house.

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