Magpul art of the dynamic handgun


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grayhambone
July 11, 2012, 08:24 PM
Hello all, does anyone have these DVD's and could give a little feedback on them?

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Certaindeaf
July 11, 2012, 08:51 PM
Isn't that a plastic magazine?

Girodin
July 11, 2012, 10:28 PM
I have them. I think one would be well served to get live training. However, these DVDs are very good for what they are. As far as instructional DVDs go they are certainly some of the best. Personally,I think they are money well spent.

ponchsox
July 12, 2012, 07:14 AM
Solid instruction, I recommend them. It's hard to replace live training but I learned a lot from these videos.

ZJPMBA
July 12, 2012, 07:51 AM
Agreed. Definitely worth buying... But not even close to a replacement for live training.

Sapper771
July 12, 2012, 07:57 AM
I have them as well. Money well spent.

mokin
July 12, 2012, 01:24 PM
It kind of depends on your current level of firearms proficiency. I think most people would benifit more from using the money on ammunition to practice with but for me I thought it was pretty good value for the money. When I purchased the discs, I was shooting 200-400 rounds a month over two or three trips to the range and was looking for things to add to my range time. As others have commented, they are not replacement for live instruction.

Most of the instruction is on the first disc and this is the longest disc in the set. Mindset is covered in the second disc and scenarios are demonstrated here. The third disc covers concealment and things associated with carrying on a regular basis and things to be aware of while carrying. The fourth disc contains quick reference drills - very useful, this set is only as good as you try the stuff you learn, and other handgun accessories. The fourth disc also has outtakes which are a lot of fun.

Having a place to shoot where you can draw your handgun, are not restricted to shooting from behind a line and can move around, and being able to set up "cover" will greatly improve what you can use on these discs.

The biggest thing I took away from these discs is that I needed to spend more time at the range but, I enjoyed these discs and would recommend them.

Girodin
July 12, 2012, 01:42 PM
I think most people would benifit more from using the money on ammunition to practice with but for me I thought it was pretty good value for the money.

I do not necessarily agree. Practicing bad habits a lot is in many ways worse than not practicing at all. In my experience "most" people, even those who have owned guns and shot a fair amount (relative to the general population) don't know a lot of the skills taught on the discs or in other basic courses.

There is shooting and there is training. Just going and shooting in its self is of limited value compared to deliberate practice (training). Training but doing things wrong is arguably worse than not doing them at all because in my experience coaching it becomes much harder to undue those bad habits than to learn it correctly in the first place.

Furthermore, the DVDs are $40. If you are shooting a 9x19 that is what 200 rounds of ammo. If you took someone who had never gotten any training and either gave them 200 rounds to go shoot on their own or the DVD set I think the DVD set would be of more value. Now that might not be true if the person already has been exposed to most or all of what is covered on the discs.

grayhambone
July 12, 2012, 09:42 PM
obviously is nothing as good as the physical training. the repetitions and muscle memory.

Just didnt know as far as technique. Watch the video and the go practice what you see.

Ludasmith
July 12, 2012, 10:37 PM
I like to say they are like reading the chapter before going to class. Definitely great teaching going on, and it should be very similar to what you will learn in a class.

I watched them, got a lot better, and then took an 8 hour class. I was glad when I got to the class that I knew most of the drills and routines so I wasn't focused on figuring out how to do the drill so much as how to do it effectively.

The class really puts it all together. Then you can go home and watch the videos again (re-read the chapter) and continue advancing on your own time now that you have an even more in depth understanding.

If you are disciplined enough to follow the video and really practice, you'll do fine. Half of what you get out of a real class is 8 hours of actually doing the stuff instead of just "learning" it like you do when watching a video.

Lt.Dan
July 12, 2012, 10:42 PM
Anybody willing to let me borrow them? haha. I'll pay a deposit......

Girodin
July 13, 2012, 12:46 AM
obviously is nothing as good as the physical training. the repetitions and muscle memory.

Just didnt know as far as technique. Watch the video and the go practice what you see.

An additional benefit to live training is that you get real time feed back and correction. Some people can do very well seeing something demonstrated and then practicing it on there own though. The instruction on the DVDs is solid though.

Hacker15E
July 13, 2012, 07:40 AM
For people who have never had any formal firearms training, and logistically or financially probably won't realistically ever go get any, they're very very good.

I think that watching the videos, and then simply practicing what they're demonstrating while you're alone in your living room is worthwhile for building habit patterns at the range later on.

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