Educate me: .45 pistols in $400-$600 range


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RBid
July 16, 2012, 01:19 AM
I'm beginning the process of researching .45 pistols in the given price range. This could be used for HD, range duty, or holster carry (in the unlikely event of an emergency requiring such a thing).

Important wants:
1. Reliability/durability
2. Mid- to Full size
3. At least a decent trigger (DA/SA, or SAO, good SA pull)
4. Price point

I like 1911s just fine, but I'm not looking for one of those, yet.

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Miata Mike
July 16, 2012, 01:29 AM
Ruger P345 comes to mind. I like mine a lot, but it is my only non 1911 .45acp these days. A good shooter that I love to shoot! Price used was very reasonable.

Old Dog
July 16, 2012, 02:11 AM
At the price point range you've specified, three come to mind: Glock, Springfield Armory XD/XDm-45s, and Smith & Wesson M&P-45.

The Glocks and M&Ps can be procured with night sights for under 600 bucks; the SAs, without night sights, for under 600. All can be had in service size (4.25" barrel to 4.5" barrel), compacts and sub-compacts.

My department issue is the S&W M&P; I'm somewhat of a fan of this platform (ergonomics are excellent, trigger pull is consistently pretty good, reliablity is stellar and acccuracy is much above average for a polymer-framed service pistol). I also really like the XD-M in .45 -- doesn't feel quite as good to me as the M&P, but gotta love the high mag capacity.

No experience with Glocks in .45, but my experience with the 19 and 23 in 9 and .40 lead me to believe any Glock in .45 should be worthy of consideration.

mljdeckard
July 16, 2012, 02:13 AM
I would sniff around for a used G-20.

Girodin
July 16, 2012, 02:43 AM
If a G-20 is referring to a Glock 20 that is a 10mm not a 45 ACP. A glock 21 is a .45 ACP.

At any rate, a glock, while a good gun, doesn't meet #3 on the OP's wants list.

An FNX-45 would meet #3 as well as the others. A used Sig P220 might as well.

At the price point range you've specified, three come to mind: Glock, Springfield Armory XD/XDm-45s, and Smith & Wesson M&P-45.

Remind me witch of those is DA/SA or SAO?

mljdeckard
July 16, 2012, 02:47 AM
Yep. Oops. It's late.

bannockburn
July 16, 2012, 07:22 AM
If you're talking new, then I would say the Ruger P345, Glock Model 21, SA XD, and the CZ 97 B could be had in that price range.

kludge
July 16, 2012, 01:56 PM
Springfield XD.

jdownj
July 16, 2012, 01:58 PM
Bersa Thunder 45

silicosys4
July 16, 2012, 02:04 PM
HK USP .45 or sig p220

beatledog7
July 16, 2012, 02:24 PM
Baby Eagle

surferdaddy
July 16, 2012, 02:30 PM
I love my smith 645. Good deals on used ones out there.

wbwanzer
July 16, 2012, 02:49 PM
How about a Stoeger Cougar in .45? If you're not familiar, Stoeger is a subsidiary of Beretta. So the Stoeger Cougar is the old Beretta Cougar, it's just made in Turkey on Beretta's equipment. This is a fine gun, in my opinion, and sells new for $450 at Bass Pro and probably other places. It's not a poly pistol. Don't be afraid of the Stoeger name. The same gun with Beretta on the side would cost $150 more. It's a steal.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m145/wbwanzer/Cougar45002.jpg

Formula94
July 16, 2012, 05:18 PM
An FNP 45.
1. My FNP 45 has been 100% reliable with every ammo except WWB.
2. It is a full size gun. Holds 14-15 rounds depending on which mags you get.
3. SA/DA trigger. Its a decent trigger
4. You can get them new with 3 mags in the $500-$600 range.

RBid
July 16, 2012, 05:18 PM
Thank you, for all of the suggestions. This will help me focus my research efforts!

jrdolall
July 16, 2012, 05:30 PM
Jump out there and get a Hi-Point if you want it in the bedside table or for the range. It is SAO but I bought one at a gun show for $139 NIB and it has NEVER had a FTF. It is butt ugly and heavy but it goes bang and has excellent sights. Accuracy will surprise you for a $150 gun. It meets all your criteria but is not what many officionados will suggest.
I bought a Stoeger at Academy for $449.99 a couple of months ago and have been happy with it also. I never carry a pistol other than my pocket guns and these don't work for that.

Swing
July 16, 2012, 07:29 PM
Glocks and RIA 1911s come to mind.

HadEmAll
July 16, 2012, 11:53 PM
I'll throw in a plug for the Beretta PX4 in .45. A very nice shooter.

FNP45
July 16, 2012, 11:58 PM
+1 for FN 45's
My FNP45 has been top notch, the only problem I've had was with WWB. After some measuring I found that it was due to rounds that were very close to max OAL spec, the mags are a little tight on there tolerances. But if you have any problem I've heard that FN will swap you out with some new mags that work better with the WWB, I just seated the bullet in mine down to 1.270".
Solid gun

TennJed
July 17, 2012, 05:36 PM
Well we might differ on opinions with the trigger, but I just put a Sig p250 compact in 45 on layaway. I am a revolver fan at heart so the long DOA trigger pull is good to me. It fits all your other qualifications

GCBurner
July 17, 2012, 06:37 PM
My Glock 30 was in that price range.

Girodin
July 17, 2012, 10:06 PM
HK USP .45

Where can I get one for $600? If you are going to toss the price restriction then why not an HK45. I would greatly prefer that to the USP. It is in essence an improved USP.

It seems like most people responding just skipped all the OP's criteria and stated a gun that they happen to like.

Fishslayer
July 18, 2012, 02:36 PM
Where can I get one for $600? If you are going to toss the price restriction then why not an HK45. I would greatly prefer that to the USP. It is in essence an improved USP.

It seems like most people responding just skipped all the OP's criteria and stated a gun that they happen to like.

I've seen used USP45s (also SIG P220s) in the 5-ish to 6-ish range. Not often but it happens.

"Out the door" is another matter. In Kalifornistan we tack on a $25 fee and 8% sales tax. If the pistol is off roster usually add a premium, especially if it's evil, black & tactical.:rolleyes:

Ruger P345 leaped for the OP to my mind, though I would look for a used P90 myself.

Why anybody would mention block when "decent trigger" is desired is beyond me. :confused:

Kyl3
July 18, 2012, 03:12 PM
CZ 97b :)

Girodin
July 18, 2012, 05:28 PM
I've seen used USP45s (also SIG P220s) in the 5-ish to 6-ish range. Not often but it happens.

I bought a glock for $250 but I am certainly not going to start recommending glocks, even used glocks, when people ask about sub $300 guns.

I do however think it would not be too hard to find a used P220 for $600 or less.

History.Doc
July 18, 2012, 07:00 PM
CZ 97b :)

Yes!

foghornl
July 18, 2012, 07:32 PM
Hmmm
Haven't shot the CZ in .45, so can't say about that other than the CZ's are quite popular.

Ruger P345 (new or used) Ruger P-90 ( no longer made, but you MAY find a new one here-n-there. My first .45ACP was a Ruger P-90. Kind of on the chunky side, but a very solid serviceable pistol.

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