Need advice for compact 9mm


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gamestalker
July 17, 2012, 07:02 PM
I'm needing a super small and light weight compact 9mm. My primary concern is buying a compact that an ankle holser exists for. I absolutely have to have a good combination and can't afford or risk having the firearm falling out of the holster, ever! Any ideas or thoughts are much appreciated.

Magazine capacity isn't an issue. In that, I mean, if it will hold at least 6 rounds it will suffice. And I'm not limiting this to just an autoloader, I would be open to a compact 38 special, if that would be a better or easier to find item considering the holster needs I have. But I will not consider stepping down to a .380 in regard to an auto loader, or going lighter than 38 spcl with a revolver.

GS

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2ndAmFan
July 17, 2012, 08:14 PM
G26

Centurian22
July 17, 2012, 08:18 PM
Would an XD sub compact be still too large for your application? If so look into the Nano, LC9 or Sheild.

C0untZer0
July 17, 2012, 08:28 PM
Rohrbaugh R9
Kahr PM9 or CM9

Even if there aren't ankle holsters for those guns, you can get a custom holster made for them.

I wouldn't pick the holster and then pick a gun to fit it.

I'd get the right gun then search for a holster - or have one made.

The_Armed_Therapist
July 17, 2012, 09:13 PM
I'm pasting this here since a different thread of almost the same topic was started about a week ago. This was my reply.

There have to be at least a dozen that will work. Even the Sub-Compact Glocks and XDs are frequently carried on the ankle by some. That would annoy the crap out of me, but it's done. Here's a fairly comprehensive list of options... Smallest generally listed first.

Rohrbaugh R9 ($1,000)
Diamondback DB9 ($350)
Kahr CM9/PM9 (or CM40/PM40) $400 (CM) to $550 (PM)
Kahr MK9 ($550)
Kel-Tec P11 ($225)
Kimber Solo ($800)
Kel-Tec PF9 ($250)
Beretta Nano ($400)
SCCY CPX ($300)
Sig P290 ($600)
Kahr P9/CW9 ($350-$550)
Ruger LC9 ($350)
Taurus PT111 ($350)
Taurus 709 Slim ($375)
Glock 26 ($500)
Springfield XD Sub-Com ($450)
Walther PPS ($600)

oneounceload
July 17, 2012, 09:36 PM
G26?? for ankle carry?? REALLY dude? You can't even pocket carry that behemoth easily

Rohrbaugh - hands down the smallest and best 9mm micro gun made - you are betting your life on the gun, get the best

2ndAmFan
July 17, 2012, 09:49 PM
You're probably right about the G26 but I've never ankle or pocket carried anything. I like my G26 for CC IWB. I do know that some of the guns mentioned in an earlier post have issues which a G26 is very unlikely to have.

orionengnr
July 17, 2012, 10:24 PM
Your title says "compact", but you are clearly looking for a subcompact.

If you are looking for a quality 9mm subcompact, in my experience there is one that stands head and shoulders above the rest:

Kahr PM9 or CM9.

Disclaimer: I have not owned a Rohrbaugh or a Boberg. Yet. :)

The_Armed_Therapist
July 17, 2012, 10:45 PM
Truth is, I can't even really stand having a Kel-Tec P3AT on my ankle. Glock 26 seems absurd to me, but I've seen it done.

oneounceload
July 17, 2012, 10:59 PM
Exactly, I am 6-3 ans the G26 is TOO heavy for pocket carry - I cannot imagine having almost two pounds strapped to my ankle

In reality - the OP needs to think about 32 or 380 guns that weight about 8-10 oz at most

The_Armed_Therapist
July 18, 2012, 08:44 PM
oneounceload, don't forget that for many years prior to reliable micro pistols entering the market, carrying small revolvers on the ankle was common. Even the smallest of revolvers are about as bulky and heavy as a Glock 26. I would agree with you, though, in that there really isn't a good reason to try to live with such a bulky ankle rig anymore.

tobenheim
July 18, 2012, 08:55 PM
Smith 642 for ankle carry. Small, light-weight and totally reliable. I had a 642 and a 442 and they made for great deep-concealment guns. Eventually I decided that I didn't want to carry two guns so I went with an SR9c that I carry OWB with the 17 round mag as a backup. If 27 rounds isn't enough I'm in deep, deep trouble!

MrDig
July 18, 2012, 09:35 PM
So started this one
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=668571

Both are similar enough that Mods may want to join them or not anyway I hope the article helps a little.

PR-NJ
July 18, 2012, 10:04 PM
Another vote for the PM9 (I guess the CM9 is pretty similar). At one point in time I compared the respective specs of the PM9 and the G26. The PM9 is significantly smaller and lighter than the G26. The G26 is nice...but not in an ankle holster.

The Rohrbough is way too pricey. (Hey, I'm cheap.)

rhinoh
July 18, 2012, 10:04 PM
My Kahr CM9 has been perfect. Have tried LCP, P3AT, G26, PPS, snubbies, P238, PF9, P11....CM9 is the ONE. At least for ME:)

joecil
July 18, 2012, 10:34 PM
I've carried on a rotating bases now for 2 years a PT 111 pro. I've put over 4000 rounds through it to date with only replacing the recoil spring assembly which was free to get replaced as it broke early on. Wasn't straight from day one but lasted over 1500 rounds. Bought a second one at the time for $12 so I didn't have to send the gun in taking 5 business days. Been very dependable and hasn't not has a single problem with any ammo going bang due to the gun. Only fail to fire was one Remington factory round with the primer in backwards.

usp9
July 19, 2012, 12:01 AM
I've only ever carried one gun in an ankle holster, and that was a snubnosed revolver. It was annoying to carry and hard to hide completely. Small is better... small and lightweight is best. No bigger or heavier than a Kahr PM9, IMHO.

GlackAttack
July 20, 2012, 01:31 PM
M&p sheild or beretta nano.

Rembrandt
July 20, 2012, 01:47 PM
Boberg.....



http://www.bobergarms.com/

WinThePennant
July 20, 2012, 02:07 PM
A lot of people ankle holster a G26.

My question: Who ankle carries these days? IWB is the way to go, IMHO.

J_McLeod
July 20, 2012, 08:23 PM
Get a PF9, probably the smallest and lightest of the bunch.

srtolly
July 20, 2012, 09:57 PM
+1 for the PF9. I carry mine IWB and hardly know its there. 15oz with empty mag on my scale (I don't believe mfr claims).

kris7047th
July 20, 2012, 10:05 PM
The M&P Shield 9

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb114/kris7047th/IMG_1784-1.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb114/kris7047th/IMG_1779.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb114/kris7047th/IMG_1793.jpg

Even better after ATEi trigger work and full serrations for one handed racking. 4lb trigger pull

777TRUTH
July 21, 2012, 06:52 AM
Walther PPS is a great carry piece.

Cowboybootnut
July 21, 2012, 08:16 AM
KelTec P 9
Taurus 709
Ruger LC9

MCgunner
July 21, 2012, 08:55 AM
oneounceload, don't forget that for many years prior to reliable micro pistols entering the market, carrying small revolvers on the ankle was common. Even the smallest of revolvers are about as bulky and heavy as a Glock 26.

Alloy .38s have been around since the 50s. My Taurus 85SSUL is 17 ounces. The Glock 26 is a brick in an ankle holster. At least the muzzle is pointed at the ground, and not at your boys in a pocket. I don't trust "safe action" for any, but IWB/owb in a stiff holster that fully covers the trigger and I don't own one for that, either.

Kel Tec is my choice. I've owned, carried, and fired a P11 for 16 years. It did have a broken extractor after over 11,000 rounds (quit keeping a count a few years back), but KT sent me a free replacement. It's been quite reliable at 1/3rd the price of a Rohrbaugh and is rated for limited +P to boot. I carry 115 grain +P in it, practice with standard loads. It's 14 ounces unloaded, very nice on an ankle. It's a true DAO, too. BUT, I pocket the gun. I own a UM's ankle rig that it works with, but never use it. The PF9 is two ounces lighter and a little less wide. The P11 is only an inch wide, the PF9 is a single stack and well less than 1" wide.

If you think the original subcompact, the Kel Tec, the one all others copy, the trend setter, is a POS, then spend a few hundred more and get a Kahr. They're good guns, too, and appeal to the rich and famous a little more owing to price. Some folks don't care so long as it's the most expensive out there. The Kahr isn't the MOST expensive, but it'll appeal to those with champagne tastes and a cold duck pocketbook.

I do kinda like revolvers for this sort of back up carry, too. My 85SSUL is 17 ounces, a 642 Smith is 19 ounces. Hell, a Smith 340 is only 12 ounces. Go light and go right. The ankle is a dirty environment. Keep the gun clean.

mdmorgan
July 21, 2012, 09:20 AM
1+ for the PF9. One of the lightest, the cheapest and, I think the best. I love mine.

HadEmAll
July 21, 2012, 12:56 PM
I like my Kahr PM9 and Beretta Nano equally. Both absolutely reliable. I can pocket carry both in Dockers.

The Nano is about 3 ounces heavier than the PM9.

I like my .38 Ruger LCR also, but the faster reload of the small semiautos gets them the nod most of the time.

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