Sig P226 - NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS!!! VIDEO


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PTMCCAIN
July 21, 2012, 06:15 PM
This is a shooting demonstration of the Sig Sauer P226, and, unfortunately, also a look at the issues this pistol has been having. Fail to feeds, and front sight is off. I know the Sig P226 is a great pistol. My friend, who loaned me this pistol, and I, are trying to get to the bottom of why he keeps having problems with this P226

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX3RzuMhnng

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JWJacobVT
July 21, 2012, 06:44 PM
Try a new mag or mag spring. I just put 1200 rds through my 226 during a class and the only time I had problems such as these is when I setup the gun with the problem. Ie stovepipe, double feed etc........

PTMCCAIN
July 21, 2012, 06:45 PM
What do you mean, "When I setup the gun"

nathan
July 21, 2012, 07:26 PM
PTM, i watched your M 9 shooting on that target. Very impressive. Do you have plans to try a CZ 75 B on your next video?

PTMCCAIN
July 21, 2012, 07:30 PM
If would be so kind as to supply one, I'll be delighted to feature it!!!

: )

9mmepiphany
July 21, 2012, 08:17 PM
I'm confused because first you said stovepipe, but then you said failure to feed...those are two completely different things.

It would have given us a better idea and maybe better suggestions if you had shown the malfunction as it occurred before you cleared it...it looked like you did something when the gun was below the view of the camera. From the footage shown, it looked like an incomplete feeding of the cartridge into the chamber which would usually originate from the magazine or an overly tight extractor. I would also recommend trying a couple of different magazines and also track where in the cartridge column the mis-feed occurrs.

The shooting errors shown, I would attribute to technique...at least based on watching you trigger the rounds. It looked like you were slapping the trigger quite a bit, which would account for the spread and the low shots. I would also suspect, since we could only see your grip from the left side, that the grips are too large for a consistent grip and the trigger reach is too short. It looked like you had too much finger on the trigger and had to overcompress the finger joint to press the trigger back to the let off point.

With your technique, it would be hard to determine if the front sight is off, if you aren't shooting from a solid rest

BTW: You posted this clip twice, I deleted the other thread as this one had responses posted. Please be more careful in the future.

JohnBT
July 21, 2012, 08:37 PM
You weren't shooting WWB were you? I'm not going to watch a vid before I have some details to consider.

PTMCCAIN
July 21, 2012, 08:42 PM
The pistol has had failures to extract and feed with every kind of 9mm we've put through it.

ScottS
July 21, 2012, 09:03 PM
What do you mean, "When I setup the gun"
I'm betting he's talking about intentionally-induced malfunctions for training purposes.

allaroundhunter
July 21, 2012, 09:29 PM
Originally Posted by PTMCCAIN
What do you mean, "When I setup the gun"
I'm betting he's talking about intentionally-induced malfunctions for training purposes.

That would be correct. And it is done to practice malfunction clearance drills.

Coal Dragger
July 21, 2012, 09:56 PM
So what was the point of all that? Other than demonstrating what happens when the shooter can't figure out proper trigger control? You might try learning the basics of sight alignment and trigger control, your shooting will vastly improve. You can't miss fast enough to win anything, so slow down a smidge and stop slapping the trigger. It is not a computer mouse key.

pat701
July 21, 2012, 10:48 PM
90% of gun problems are mag. related. New mags should be tryed.

JWJacobVT
July 21, 2012, 11:22 PM
Or possibly a $27 extractor......

Oldnoob
July 22, 2012, 12:25 AM
Try with different (mec gar) magazine. If that didn't help, sent it back to Sig and have them figure it out. You just spended $700+ for that pistol, it's their responsibility to make sure their product is "From hell and back reliability".

I had 6 Sigs and one of them disappointed me.

PTMCCAIN
July 22, 2012, 08:18 AM
Thanks, appreciate the advice and suggestions.

Will first start with mags, then move on to extractor and then..off to Sig.

9mmepiphany
July 22, 2012, 04:51 PM
Who was the manufacturer of the factory magazines you are having trouble with?

PTMCCAIN
July 22, 2012, 05:41 PM
They are the magazines that came with the pistol, just say Sig Sauer P226 9mm on them and "Made in USA."

9mmepiphany
July 22, 2012, 08:27 PM
Those are the new Checkmate mags...that is likely the root of your problem...try some Mec-Gar or SIG mags

PTMCCAIN
July 22, 2012, 08:34 PM
Thank you, I'm going to do that. This seems to be the number one piece of advice I'm getting: magazines!!

coalman
July 23, 2012, 02:30 AM
Thank you, I'm going to do that. This seems to be the number one piece of advice I'm getting: magazines!!

Often is. The 1911 has suffered this issue for years: crappy mags shipped with otherwise good guns. Now, as/if big gun makers shop out mags to skimp on costs we may see more issues.

mohunter55
August 6, 2012, 11:54 PM
how did the mags work out? I just bought a sig p226 and did some google searches and I have noticed you posted this on several other forums. Guess this is part of the reason so many people say sig has quality control issues. 1 problem gun posted on several sites gets a lot of attention.

scaatylobo
August 7, 2012, 09:07 PM
AND now you see why I shoot a Glock 99 % of the time.

I have had no issues with the 6 I own and have shot THOUSANDS of rounds through.

Just proves that at any time,any tool can fail.Sig's are supposed to be some of the best [ and pricey ] tools to be had .

Good reason to carry a BUG.

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