Whats your take on the 6.5 creedmore


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glockky
July 23, 2012, 09:19 AM
Just wanting to hear some opinions of guys who own a 6.5 creedmore. I am thinking of making this my next rifle for punching paper and deer hunting.

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rayatphonix
July 23, 2012, 09:33 AM
My first is a Mauser in 6.5 Remington Mag. My second was a Creedmoor and my third is a 260 Rem. The Creedmoor and 260 shoot about the same and if I shot them out of the same type of rifle I'm doubtful I could tell the difference. I bought the Creedmoor because it's unique and enjoy it, but for practical purposes the 260 is probably a better deal due to better availability of ammo and larger selection of rifles.

I enjoy shooting all of my 6.5 cartridges. They have flat trajectories and are suitable for long-range shots. Quality bullets are readily available if you handload; somewhat less so if you rely on the local sporting goods store. In the case of these three rifles, recoil is very managable and practice is very enjoyable. Unfortunately I seldom get a chance to shoot over 200 yards so my practice with them at long range is minimal. I believe you'll enjoy the rifle.

hardluk1
July 23, 2012, 09:42 AM
AS covered above.

Maybe more about what rifle you can get in a 6.5 cartidge. The 260 and the 6.5 creedmoor ,even the 6.5x55 all offer the same velocities. If the rifle I wanted was only avalible at the time in a 260 then it would go home. The 260 has a bit better factory ammo choice for it with both hunting loads and factory comp ammo. And Lapua has top quality 260 brass . Flip a coin?

303tom
July 23, 2012, 09:54 AM
The 6.5mm Creedmoor is a centerfire rifle cartridge introduced by Hornady in 2007. When loaded with heavier bullets, cartridges such as the 6.5x55mm and 6.5-284 are capable of greater muzzle velocity due to their longer cases and larger powder capacity. However, due to its shorter overall length, the 6.5mm Creedmoor is more flexible in its ability to be chambered in short-action bolt rifles and AR-10 rifles.

6.5 mm (.264") bullets, in general, are known for their relatively high ballistic coefficients, and have seen success in rifle competition. The 6.5mm Creedmoor is capable of duplicating the trajectory of the .300 Winchester Magnum while generating significantly lower recoil. Also, converting a rifle chambered for the .308 Winchester (or any of its offspring, such as the .243 Winchester, 7mm-08 Remington or .338 Federal) to 6.5mm Creedmoor generally requires little more than a simple barrel change.

[Tom, you forgot to attribute the paragraphs you quoted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5mm_Creedmoor --Sam]

HOOfan_1
July 23, 2012, 10:23 AM
the 260 is probably a better deal due to... larger selection of rifles.


I don't see that many rifles chambered in .260.

Remington Model 7 and a few Savages.

Ruger 77 and T/C's rifles come in Creedmoor

There just are not that many 6.5mm rifles in the US market.

GooseGestapo
July 23, 2012, 12:01 PM
I have a .260 (Rem. Mod-7 w/20"bbl. 1/9"twist).

The 6.5Creedmoor was designed to have same case capacity as .260, but to allow the seating of the 140gr VLD type bullets out and at same time keep the bearing surface of the bullet within the case neck; while still allowing the use of a "short action" rifle. The Creed. has a longer neck, shorter body and steeper shoulder to allow this. It is essentially the .250Savage AI necked up to 6.5.

As a target cartridge it has it's purpose in its niche. However, it has the same weakness as a big-game cartridge as the rest of the 6.5's.

The advantage of the 6.5 is ancient history, except in the target games where it excells (long range over 500yds). For hunting, and long-range metallic silhouette (max distance is 585yds/500m), I find the 7mm08 to be superior in every regard and which is essentially equal to the .270wcf (as a big-game cart., the 7mm08, that is..) that was the "target" market of the post 1950's 6.5mm cartridge developments- such as the 6.5RemMag, .264winmag, ect... Newer, better bullet construction and design has neutralized the benefit of the 6.5's. Ditto the 220gr .30/06 which actually has a higher sd than the 160gr .264" bullets.... (0.328 vs. 0.331).

There's nothing "wrong" with the 6.5Creed., just no real advantage over many similar items on the market....
But if you're looking to build "something different", it's great! I like my .260, and I'll keep it as my youngest daughter killed her first deer with it and will inherit it some day....
But it "ain't better" than the twin 7mm08 it sits next to in the gun rack.....
Though it's definitely more accurate than the 7mm08(individual barrel), the '7' beats it by 200fps with a 140gr bullet, and the the long range game-performance of the '7' with a 150-160gr bullet, trumps the "little-er" 6.5....

Neither will have sufficient velocity beyond ~400yds to make the bullets perform properly to humanely dispatch big-game however, so the difference in wind-drift and trajectory between the 6.5's and other "similar" cartridges is moot...

Dr T
July 23, 2012, 12:43 PM
I have a Ruger 77 6.5 Creedmoor. In general, I like the paper ballistics of the cartridge, but I have not yet had the time to tune up a handload for it.

A couple of observations about the design of the cartridge. I think that the Great-grandfather of this cartridge was Charles Newton and that P.O. Ackley was at the very least an honorary godfather. Dimensionally, it is very close to a and Improved 250 Savage. As such, it inherits the efficiency and mild recoil of the 250 Savage and gets a bit of a velocity boost from the slightly larger bore (0.264 versus 0.257) as well as the very high ballistic coefficients of the 6.5 mm bullets.

I am looking forward to working with the rifle.

chaser_2332
July 23, 2012, 02:05 PM
If your building a bolt gun run a 260, if building a gasser go 6.5creed. The 260 has a little more capacity than the creed but it's length is handicapped in a gas gun. That where the creed shines. Only reason to run a creed in a bolt gun is the avalibilty of good match ammo from hornady.

303tom
July 23, 2012, 02:50 PM
The 6.5mm Creedmoor is a centerfire rifle cartridge introduced by Hornady in 2007. When loaded with heavier bullets, cartridges such as the 6.5x55mm and 6.5-284 are capable of greater muzzle velocity due to their longer cases and larger powder capacity. However, due to its shorter overall length, the 6.5mm Creedmoor is more flexible in its ability to be chambered in short-action bolt rifles and AR-10 rifles.

6.5 mm (.264") bullets, in general, are known for their relatively high ballistic coefficients, and have seen success in rifle competition. The 6.5mm Creedmoor is capable of duplicating the trajectory of the .300 Winchester Magnum while generating significantly lower recoil. Also, converting a rifle chambered for the .308 Winchester (or any of its offspring, such as the .243 Winchester, 7mm-08 Remington or .338 Federal) to 6.5mm Creedmoor generally requires little more than a simple barrel change.

[Tom, you forgot to attribute the paragraphs you quoted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5mm_Creedmoor --Sam]
Was not a Direct Quote, I left this out..................

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2007/11/hornady-introduces-new-65-creedmoor-cartridge/

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