Ruger LCP


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9mmforMe
July 27, 2012, 03:01 PM
I'm looking to purchase a Ruger LCP .380 for concealment purposes and a little fun at the range. What has your experience been re: reliability with different types of ammo. How well is this little pistol contructed? How much do these little guns sell for typically? How do they compare to the KelTec with regard to trigger pull, fit and finish and durability?

I know there have been other threads on this issue, but I figured it will give all you guys who own one a chance to brag...and who doesn't love to exalt a favorite handgun? :)

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Shmackey
July 27, 2012, 03:10 PM
Reliability: 100%
Construction: Good enough to do its job
Price: Think I paid $270
Compared to Kel-Tec: Slightly "nicer" but this is no custom 1911 :)

I got my LCP when I realized that pocket guns should be really small, and my Walther PPS was no pocket gun. Frankly not even my PM9 was a jeans pocket gun in my mind. So I keep it ready for the rare occasions when I need a true pocket gun. I have no doubt that it will make a bullet come out the front if I tell it to.

holdencm9
July 27, 2012, 03:13 PM
You will find lots of love for the LCP. But some people really love their Kel-Tec P3AT's too.

Reasons I picked the LCP:

Brand name
Fit and finish (just felt better constructed)
Ability to lock slide back (won't lock back on last round, but I like to be able to manually lock it back to show clear)
Trigger seemed way better on the ones I tried (some people swear they like the P3AT trigger better...it seemed heavier and grittier to me)

I have only ever had jams with the aluminum-cased stuff...about 2 to be precise. Probably about 500 rounds of brass cased ammo through and no issues. Several mags worth of Speer Gold Dots, no problems (that is what I carry)

With some practice and focus I can group 2" at 7 yards. The pistol is plenty accurate for its intended purposes.

I have seen them go for $279 at a few stores.

basicblur
July 27, 2012, 03:14 PM
Unless you absolutely have to have the smaller size of the LCP, I'd also consider the LC9.

I like the function of the LC9 better (mainly slide lock when empty), it has much better sights, and 9mm ammo is MUCH cheaper!

'Course, I realize sometimes there's just no substitute for smaller size?

Taurus 617 CCW
July 27, 2012, 03:15 PM
Reliability has been 100% with mine. I have shot Federal, Winchester, and Fiocchi FMJ. I use Speer Gold Dot hollowpoints for defense and they too have been 100%.

Fit and finish seem to be better as compared to Kel Tec (price reflects it). I haven't noticed a great difference in trigger pull as compared to the Kel Tec (I previously owned a P3AT).

Overall I am very impressed with my little LCP. It goes with me everywhere.

9mmforMe
July 27, 2012, 04:39 PM
I was thinking along those lines too, basicblur. Do the triggers vary greatly between the LCP and the LC9? I know both are double action and the LC9 I have dry fired, but not the LCP. I really liked the smooth trigger on the LC9.

basicblur
July 27, 2012, 07:10 PM
Do the triggers vary greatly between the LCP and the LC9?
I don't think so (just dry fired both of 'em), but I'm not particularly trigger sensitive - I grew up on DA revolvers.
My primary purpose for guns is SD, and as such, I use a 'controlled slap' instead of squeeezing sloooooowly - when it comes to SD, I figure I ain't gonna have time for slow and squeeze (Google 'Controlled Trigger Slap' sometime)!

I really liked the smooth trigger on the LC9.
Oh no you dit unt! Don't you know 'Net wisdom says the LC9 trigger is "junk"?

I also have a S&W SHIELD, and despite what most folks say, I think I'd give the nod to the LC9 (slightly) over the SHIELD AFA triggers.
Yeah, the LC9 is long, but as yourself, I think it's smooth and solid feeling.
Folks talk 'bout how good the SHIELD trigger is, and the internals may be so, but that darn articulated / plastic? trigger make it feel spongy to me.

9mmforMe
July 27, 2012, 11:40 PM
Ahhh..."net wisdom." I cut my teeth on DA revolvers as well and can appreciate the really good quality ruger has imparted on that little LC9.

MrValentine
July 27, 2012, 11:53 PM
I love the LCP. I sometimes forget that I am carrying it.

Reliability: 100%

Size factor: 100% (small enough)

rskent
July 28, 2012, 05:37 AM
The LCP is a pretty good gun. Mine had a few issues early on, that Ruger fixed very quickly for me. The little Ruger was a bit
too small for my hands. It was just too small for me to shoot well. I also find that I really like sights that I can see.
So I replaced it with a Sig 238 SAS. Itís a little bigger but still carries well, and has night sights :)

PabloJ
July 28, 2012, 07:38 AM
The one I had was 100% reliable with American Eagle FMJs. Two complaints were the slide did not stay open on last shot and slide oxidized easily. I sold it because it was so small and light I forgot I had a gun. Great little defensive gun for 10 yards or less hard to go past that due to virtually non-existent sights.

loadedround
July 28, 2012, 09:14 AM
I've had my LCP for two years now and it has fired all types of ammo including the Speer and Federal HP's, I've just gotten a box of the new Hornady Critical Defense ammo but have not yet tried it. My LCP has never once given me a FTF of any kind. I usually carry my little Ruger in my front pants pocket, and I too forget it's there. Great little gun for summer carry in shorts. :)

Dave P.
July 28, 2012, 10:59 AM
Had mine 2 1/2 years fired about 1400-1500 rounds of various ammo.
Only 2 minor issues, the mag release rusts where it passes through the frame
and when the gun is hot and dirty at the range the slide will sometimes
not return all the way forward.
Solution to both is cleaning and taking slightly better care of it.
Dave

chg
July 28, 2012, 11:34 AM
I've had mine for 3 years and put in excess of 700 rounds through it. FMJ, various hollow points all with 100% reliability. It is what it is, not a target pistol for sure but light, handy, and easy to conceal. I use the DeSantis Nemisis pocket holster in my right front pocket. Full magazine and one in the chamber. I did try the LCP on bowling pins at 25' and knocked over 4 out of 5 going one shot/pin so it's not inaccurate by any means (all things considered). It does what it was designed to do.

I ran 5 brands of ammo over the chronograph, 3 different brands of premium hollow points and 2 brands of go-bangers. Here's the results of the 3 premium cartridges:
Winchester PDX1 95gr, 903 FPS
Hornady FTX 90gr, 851FPS
Remington Golen Saber 102gr, 832FPS
Also ran Federal .38 special 110Gr in a S&W M36, 802FPS

1st screen was 21' from muzzle.

This really opened my eyes to the .380 vs .38 special in a snub nose. Consider 6+1 in the LCP with a quick reload or 5 in a snub nose with a slower reload. Not trying to start a debate here, especially with the limited data, just was amazed with the .380. (I happen to like revolvers very much) and own several .38/.357 and looked down on the .380 until now.

Fastcast
July 28, 2012, 12:10 PM
Had some failures early with Wolf Gold HP (Prvi) and some steel cased Silver Bear. American brass cased ammo has run fine as well as European RWS-FMJ....My favorite round for the little LCP.....The triggers SUCK. It's the first one you'll want to carry for comfort and most likely the last one you'd want if you actually need to use it! :rolleyes:

GCBurner
July 28, 2012, 03:22 PM
Little guns tend to be ammo sensitive, so if you find a brand that works 100% reliably for you, stock up, and use it exclusively. I practice with .380 handloads, which work most of the time, but when I carry in a pocket holster, I carry CCI factory FMJ.

heeler
July 28, 2012, 07:53 PM
I own two LCP's.
I bought my first one on a GunBroker auction NIB for $239 last August.
I have put slightly over 200 rounds thru it using all sorts of fmj and hollow points absolutely problem free.
No issues at all feeding firing or ejecting.

I bought a second one a few weeks ago,again on a GunBroker auction for $270.
Luckily the ffl dealer was local so no shipping or transfer fees.
I told him my brother was wanting one and a week later he sold my brother one for the same price.
I cleaned both and gave them a good oiling,wracked the slide on each of them 250 times and took them both out using for each 12 rounds of WWB fmj,S&B fmj,PMC fmj,UMC fmj,Hornady Critical Defense hollow points,and lastly Speer Gold Dot hollow points in that sequence of firing order.
On my very last shot(number 72) using my new pistol the Gold Dot stove piped.
That might have been me limp wristing it because I had just put my brothers LCP down from shooting the exact same rounds and in the exact order.
The only issue his had is that the first three WWB did not chamber after racking the slide to put the first round into battery.
After that his was like mine in the fact that it just fed fired and ejected away.
These little LCP's are probably the very best buy value of the micro 380's.
It has a slide lock,weighs 12 ounces fully loaded,is accurate, and very reliable.
Hope this helps.

JagerRanger
July 28, 2012, 08:19 PM
An LCP is an excellent firearm. It's accurate, reliable and easy to shoot once you practice enough. With laser I can hit four inch circle from 25 yards all day long.

I've got a few of them.

More info at http://rugerpistolforums.com/forums/forum.php

presspuller
July 28, 2012, 09:26 PM
The LCP has been 100%. The only thing I like better with the Kel-tech is the LCP has a smoother grip which with a sweaty hand makes it harder to hold than the KT. Fit and finish on the Ruger is nicer.

76shuvlinoff
July 28, 2012, 11:19 PM
Several hundred rounds of various ammo thru my LCP including JHPs, no issues. I do carry it with FMJ exclusively though.

What always amazes me about this little pocket rocket with almost no sights is how accurate it is at HD distances. That alone gives me a lot of confidence in this mouse gun,

Mykey
July 29, 2012, 07:45 AM
My wife carries the LCP and i carried it before i gave it up to her. Reliability has been 100% with all types of ammo. She keeps it loaded with Speer Gold Dot hollowpoints for defense and they too have been 100%.

9mmforMe
August 5, 2012, 04:40 AM
Thanks for all the good information guys. I'm really leaning heavily toward the LCP, though in the last week, the LC9 has been looking good as well. I don't like to hear about the oxidizing problems that were mentioned by two posters re: the slide and the mag release button on the LCP. I wonder if anyone else has seen these problems too?

CZguy
August 5, 2012, 05:45 AM
No corrosion problems if you buy the hard chrome version.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii299/badgerone/LCPII.jpg

76shuvlinoff
August 5, 2012, 08:09 AM
I would like to get my hands on an LC9 for comparison, I am shopping for a tiny 9 (but can't see paying for a Rohrbaugh) and if the LC9 is as reliable and accurate as my LCP is my search would likely be over.

Patrice
August 5, 2012, 09:02 AM
Hhmmm....Well, I know of someone who has one; he likes it okay. I've shot it, and can't stand the trigger pull. Doesn't seem to give me any indication where/when the thing will fire.

I've heard of a shot "heard round the world"...in my experience, the LCP has a trigger that travels around the world (i.e., before firing).

It's a terribly cute little thing though. Maybe I could get used to the trigger pull if I shot it eennoouugghh.--Patrice ;)

76shuvlinoff
August 5, 2012, 09:10 AM
At first I was turned off with the long pull myself but after 150 expensive holes in paper I was surprised at the groups I was getting free standing at HD distances out to 25 paces. It is what is, not a range toy but for a true pocket pistol designed for a get-the-hell-off-me situation I think it's hard to beat. Since I feel that's what it is truly designed for I run ball ammo with the intention of putting them where it matters.

Of course we all know the battle plan goes to hell on first contact with the enemy.

huntsman
August 5, 2012, 11:45 AM
The LCP has turned out to be the perfect EDC for me, but I don't have any question that the .380acp is a suitable SD cartridge. If you lack faith in the .380 then you're best to just get a 9mm but no matter how you try the LC9 will not be as light or small as the LCP so it comes down to what you need and what you believe.

heeler
August 5, 2012, 03:35 PM
I carry my LCP daily in a leather pocket holster and have never had any issues of corrosion or oxidation.
I also use Break Free CLP on all of my firearms.
I take my daily carry LCP and clean all pocket lint from it as well as re-oil the slides with CLP monthly.
Wipe down the metal surface again with a light coat of CLP.
No problems.

9mmforMe
August 5, 2012, 07:14 PM
I had the P3AT and liked the way it fit in my hands though I had to make accomodations, of course, with my grip. This .380 feels good too in my hand. I like the fact that its only external safety is the trigger (well that and my cognizance of safety). I like that there is no loaded chamber indicator, I treat all firearms as if they are loaded anyway. I like that it holds 7 rounds of .380, which is enough for SD for me. The Ruger LC9 holds one more round...attractive, fires a slightly more potent round, imo, attractive...and I like the trigger....yeah I said I liked the trigger, and the sights are good too. I think the LC9 has a trigger disconnect and the LCP doesn't?

Tough choice, the only thing I'm sure of is that I'm getting a Ruger, well, not true, the little .380 is winning this race to my pocket holster. It's like having some of the most important qualities of a J framer DA revolver and 2 more rounds. Oh, and it's cheaper too. Decisions, decisions. :D

SwampWolf
August 13, 2012, 09:11 PM
'Course, I realize sometimes there's just no substitute for smaller size?

And I think that's what makes the case for a pistol the same size and weight as the LCP. Anything much bigger or heavier takes it out of the pocket pistol class imo. Mine has been 100% reliable and plenty accurate at the ranges it's designed to perform at. On those times I carry it instead of something bigger and more potent (due to the climate and/or social circumstance), I load it with quality hardball ammunition.

stinger 327
August 13, 2012, 11:53 PM
Unless you absolutely have to have the smaller size of the LCP, I'd also consider the LC9.

I like the function of the LC9 better (mainly slide lock when empty), it has much better sights, and 9mm ammo is MUCH cheaper!

'Course, I realize sometimes there's just no substitute for smaller size?
LCP shoots .380 and the LC9 shoots 9MM? If this is the case then the LCP must be alot more concealable gun for carry?

stinger 327
August 13, 2012, 11:57 PM
I had the P3AT and liked the way it fit in my hands though I had to make accomodations, of course, with my grip. This .380 feels good too in my hand. I like the fact that its only external safety is the trigger (well that and my cognizance of safety). I like that there is no loaded chamber indicator, I treat all firearms as if they are loaded anyway. I like that it holds 7 rounds of .380, which is enough for SD for me. The Ruger LC9 holds one more round...attractive, fires a slightly more potent round, imo, attractive...and I like the trigger....yeah I said I liked the trigger, and the sights are good too. I think the LC9 has a trigger disconnect and the LCP doesn't?

Tough choice, the only thing I'm sure of is that I'm getting a Ruger, well, not true, the little .380 is winning this race to my pocket holster. It's like having some of the most important qualities of a J framer DA revolver and 2 more rounds. Oh, and it's cheaper too. Decisions, decisions. :D
but isn't 9mm is alot more economical to shoot and practice with than the .380 round? Plus you get more variety of choices of type of bullet to shoot with 9mm the worldwide caliber NATO.

Paul7
August 14, 2012, 11:34 AM
My LCP was garbage. Ruger finally gave me a refund, after being jerks about it. The scary thing is, the big problems didn't start until after 200 rounds.

Fiv3r
August 14, 2012, 11:43 AM
I adore my little LCP. It fits very much into the gun I carry when I can't carry a gun category. Mine has been flawless short of some light primer strikes early on with Tula .380 ammo. It has sense broken in and will fire it just fine (or it could be that I got a box with several stiff primers. I dunno).

I feel OK with 7 shots of .380 and another 6 in reserve, but a rash of early morning armed robberies in the area (in an area that is not only considered fairly safe but not near a neighborhood in which to hide) I have given pause and decided that I really want to step up my size and round count by putting money down on a Glock 26.

That said, I'll still pack the LCP. I really forget it's in my back pocket until I sit in my truck and start making a long drive (then it gets a little uncomfortable). At work and in the summer months, the LCP rules. I have a feeling once the cooler weather sets in I'll probably switch to the Glock in a nice comfy OWB holster but keep the LCP in my pocket unless I'm making a long haul that day.

The LCP is reliable, well built for its purpose, and makes for a cost effective little shooter.

stinger 327
August 15, 2012, 12:55 AM
I adore my little LCP. It fits very much into the gun I carry when I can't carry a gun category. Mine has been flawless short of some light primer strikes early on with Tula .380 ammo. It has sense broken in and will fire it just fine (or it could be that I got a box with several stiff primers. I dunno).

I feel OK with 7 shots of .380 and another 6 in reserve, but a rash of early morning armed robberies in the area (in an area that is not only considered fairly safe but not near a neighborhood in which to hide) I have given pause and decided that I really want to step up my size and round count by putting money down on a Glock 26.

That said, I'll still pack the LCP. I really forget it's in my back pocket until I sit in my truck and start making a long drive (then it gets a little uncomfortable). At work and in the summer months, the LCP rules. I have a feeling once the cooler weather sets in I'll probably switch to the Glock in a nice comfy OWB holster but keep the LCP in my pocket unless I'm making a long haul that day.

The LCP is reliable, well built for its purpose, and makes for a cost effective little shooter.
What is the going price for this Ruger LCP in .380? Does it kick or blow up in your hand like a Walter PPK and is a terror to shoot?

heeler
August 15, 2012, 07:50 AM
Stinger,LCP prices are starting to inch up slightly from a year ago.
I bought one exactly a year ago new on GunBroker and paid $239 for it.
But then there was the $20 shipping and my FFL guys $15 transfer fee so in actuallity $274.
I bought another one a month ago for $270 plus 8.25% state sales tax so really the total was $292.28.
I see them regulary on sale for $299-$319 locally and gun show prices around $289.

Yes they have some recoil but no it's not bad like some blowback designed model.
Not as mild as my Kel-Tec P32 but nowhere near as horrific as my now sold Smith Airweight 38 Special which imho was wretched in recoil.
They are great little pistols and I highly recommend it.

stinger 327
August 15, 2012, 10:56 AM
Stinger,LCP prices are starting to inch up slightly from a year ago.
I bought one exactly a year ago new on GunBroker and paid $239 for it.
But then there was the $20 shipping and my FFL guys $15 transfer fee so in actuallity $274.
I bought another one a month ago for $270 plus 8.25% state sales tax so really the total was $292.28.
I see them regulary on sale for $299-$319 locally and gun show prices around $289.

Yes they have some recoil but no it's not bad like some blowback designed model.
Not as mild as my Kel-Tec P32 but nowhere near as horrific as my now sold Smith Airweight 38 Special which imho was wretched in recoil.
They are great little pistols and I highly recommend it.
How does the Kel-Tec P32 compare against the LCP?

Fiv3r
August 15, 2012, 11:30 AM
I'd say that the prices have crept up a bit. I think I bought mine for $279 this time last year. They're in the $299 range here, I think.

Recoil is a funny thing. Some people find the LCP punishing, but I've found it to be no more unpleasant than most smaller guns. I wouldn't shoot 200 round through it in a single sitting, but I rarely do that with anything short of .22.

mgmorden
August 15, 2012, 11:39 AM
I got mine about 2 years ago. Its had 400-450 rounds through it with no jams (and its never been cleaned :)).

Most of that was WWB bulk pack which ran fine. I've also shot a few mags worth of Hornady Critical Defense and PMC Starfire ammo that all functioned fine too.

Overall, its a good gun. I have carried mine front-pocket with a Desantis Nemesis, back pocket in a wallet holster, and IWB in a little Safariland holster (don't know the model - I paid $5 for it out of the used bin at a local shop :)).

EDIT: One thing I will say is that I wish Ruger made an extension mag for it. Kinda like they have the full mag + spacer for the SR9c. Give me an 8-round mag with spacer for when I'm carrying IWB. I'm not even so concerned about the extra 2 rounds as much as I would just like a little more grip to hold onto if possible.

stinger 327
August 15, 2012, 12:05 PM
I'd say that the prices have crept up a bit. I think I bought mine for $279 this time last year. They're in the $299 range here, I think.

Recoil is a funny thing. Some people find the LCP punishing, but I've found it to be no more unpleasant than most smaller guns. I wouldn't shoot 200 round through it in a single sitting, but I rarely do that with anything short of .22.
What real punishing? The LCR .38 +P revolver.

CZguy
August 15, 2012, 12:28 PM
The LCP is not punishing, it's snappy. I shoot two mags out of mine each week, to maintain skills, and actually enjoy shooting it.

stinger 327
August 15, 2012, 01:20 PM
The LCP is not punishing, it's snappy. I shoot two mags out of mine each week, to maintain skills, and actually enjoy shooting it.
I wish the LCR .38 +P counterpart was the same

heeler
August 15, 2012, 02:38 PM
I concur with CZguy and Fiv3R,the recoil is snappy but not bad or painful.
I have fired 100 rounds at a range thru it including a box or two of 9mm's from my PM9 and maybe a box from my P32.
Oh yea about the Kel-Tec P32...What a little jewel!!
Practically zero recoil and quite fun to shoot.
Although not as powerful as the 380 it's not that far from it either but I strongly advise using only fmj ammo in the 32 ACP for defensive purposes.
I bought mine with the grey frame and blue slide for $225 last year on a whim and carry it when I go to the track or park for my evening run or walk.
Fwiw the LCP loaded weighs 12 ounces and the KT P32 fully loaded is slightly under 10 ounces according to my girlfriends digital scale.

9mmforMe
August 15, 2012, 05:36 PM
Stinger,
Yes, the 9mm is more economical, but I'm willing to pay more for the .380 ammo since the gun will play such a vital role in my life. It is exactly what I want over any other smallish 9mms out there. The LCP has the features I want and for example, the LC9 has an awkward safety, mag disconnect, loaded chamber indicator..I just dont want that crap. The LCP has the simplicity of a revolver, 2 more rounds and no external safety...perfection.

stinger 327
August 16, 2012, 12:39 AM
Stinger,
Yes, the 9mm is more economical, but I'm willing to pay more for the .380 ammo since the gun will play such a vital role in my life. It is exactly what I want over any other smallish 9mms out there. The LCP has the features I want and for example, the LC9 has an awkward safety, mag disconnect, loaded chamber indicator..I just dont want that crap. The LCP has the simplicity of a revolver, 2 more rounds and no external safety...perfection.
Sounds like you made the right decision. If the gun fits you then that's the one for you I too prefer simplicity and easy concealment which sounds like the LCP has one up on the LC9 cause if it is too big or difficult to carry then the purpose is defeated in this case. Gun will stay at home with the rest of the big boy .45 ACP, .357 etc.

stinger 327
August 16, 2012, 12:43 AM
I concur with CZguy and Fiv3R,the recoil is snappy but not bad or painful.
I have fired 100 rounds at a range thru it including a box or two of 9mm's from my PM9 and maybe a box from my P32.
Oh yea about the Kel-Tec P32...What a little jewel!!
Practically zero recoil and quite fun to shoot.
Although not as powerful as the 380 it's not that far from it either but I strongly advise using only fmj ammo in the 32 ACP for defensive purposes.
I bought mine with the grey frame and blue slide for $225 last year on a whim and carry it when I go to the track or park for my evening run or walk.
Fwiw the LCP loaded weighs 12 ounces and the KT P32 fully loaded is slightly under 10 ounces according to my girlfriends digital scale.
I have heard of this before with the mouse calibers such as .25 ACP and .32 ACP you are much better off with FMJ for maximum penetration to do most damage in hopes of hitting something vital since these are low powered rounds and expansion is nil and can't be depended on. Plus FMJ will feed more reliability.
The Beretta .32 ACP Tomcat is another nice pocket gun that bites and will take off your skin if you don't hold it right. Not fun to shoot either.

TJx
August 16, 2012, 06:13 AM
Mine is back at Ruger. I lost count of the FTE's (leaves empty case in chamber) the 1st hundred rounds.
I hope they make it right because I really liked the gun otherwise, comfortable to shoot when it did, from 25 feet I could outshoot my long since departed S&W M&P 9C.

9mmforMe
August 16, 2012, 06:35 PM
TJx...Ruger is a great company to work with regarding repairs...they should make it right and you'll be back in action. Let us know what they said, will ya? Were you using just one type of ammo?

Stinger...we are definitely in agreement. I'm sorry if you said so and I didn't notice...what do you carry?

TJx
August 16, 2012, 07:31 PM
Were you using just one type of ammo?

Yes, 100 rounds of Federal bulk pack.

ritepath
August 16, 2012, 10:03 PM
Ha....I can also out shoot my 9c with my LCP, I have no idea why I can't shoot my M&P that well.

9mmforMe
August 16, 2012, 11:05 PM
TJx...do you think your gun may have just disliked the bulk federals?

stinger 327
August 17, 2012, 12:44 AM
Stinger,
Yes, the 9mm is more economical, but I'm willing to pay more for the .380 ammo since the gun will play such a vital role in my life. It is exactly what I want over any other smallish 9mms out there. The LCP has the features I want and for example, the LC9 has an awkward safety, mag disconnect, loaded chamber indicator..I just dont want that crap. The LCP has the simplicity of a revolver, 2 more rounds and no external safety...perfection.
I will have to check out one of these LCP's. Simplicity of a revolver I like that.

TJx
August 17, 2012, 08:42 AM
TJx...do you think your gun may have just disliked the bulk federals?

I don't think so. If it was something like Russian steel cased ammo I would agree it was the ammo.
I didn't try other brands because I didn't think it was the ammo and I wanted to cut my losses because I have to pretty much start over the proving run when I get it back.
I was very clear with the Ruger rep with what I shot and how much and there was no hesitation in setting up RMA.

theautobahn
August 27, 2012, 04:03 PM
Having shot the LCP, Kel-Tec P32 and the Taurus TCP, I think the TCP is the most comfortable to shoot, by far.

The Kel-Tec's are too "sharp" to shoot comfortably, but on the other hand (no pun intended), the grip would be better under wet conditions.

The LCP's to me are very snappy when compared to the TCP. I think I could do a 200 round range session with a TCP with no problem but the LCP moves in my hand enough that I think after 100 rounds I would start to get raw spots / blisters. I have to readjust my grip on occasion with the LCP.

That being said, I had decided on a TCP for my pocket gun... until my buddy had his second or third problem with his - I'm now pretty much scared off of the Taurus - which is too bad, because they are so comfortable to shoot, very accurate - for me anyway and the slide locks back on the last round.

All this being considered, I think I'll buy an LCP until I save up enough moolah for a Sig or Kahr .380 and then trade/sell the LCP.

The 9's (Kel-Tec PF-9, Ruger LC9) are JUST enough bigger that pocket carry becomes an issue, especially with summer-weight slacks.

surratt95
August 28, 2012, 08:48 AM
I really like my LCP. I've had it for almost two years now and not a problem. the only things I don't like are the sights and no last round lock open.
I bought a SW Bodyguard 380 for the sights and lock open. I really liked that a little better than the LCP, but my wife fired both and took the Bodyguard.
The small size of the LCP now allows me to carry three guns on duty, Glock 22 on the gun belt, Glock 27 on the ankle, and the LCP in a pocket holster in the front left pocket. Off duty I wear my Glock 27 in appendix carry and the LCP in the left pants pocket.

Its a good choice for pocket carry. Don't buy cheap defensive ammo (for any gun).

BP Hunter
August 28, 2012, 11:59 AM
I really like my LCP. It is my BUG. Yes, the gun is small and yoiu have to learn how shoot it. It was not as snappy as I was told.

CZguy
August 28, 2012, 12:34 PM
It was not as snappy as I was told.

It's not that bad for me either. It did take me several months to learn the trigger though.

Tacbandit
August 29, 2012, 12:26 AM
Mine is almost always with me..fits/hides great in a jeans back pocket. Great backup to my EDC. True, it does have better fit/finish than the KelTec, and definitely more pleasant to look at. Whats to complain about in the trigger? It's an up close and personal, under $300 "get off me" weapon", not a $2,500 custom match pistol.No whining allowed, here...come on, lol. Pretty nice little pistol for the money. No problems with mine. Use quality ammo, not your budget-bulk buyer dirty, cruddy stuff and it'll run fine, and be there for you if you need it.

mukwah
August 29, 2012, 12:52 AM
I rotate 3 or 4 handguns for conceal carry with the LCP as a BUG but the LCP is always with me with or without any of the others!

One_Jackal
August 30, 2012, 07:11 AM
I have a Kel Tec P-3AT. I bought it in April but it has been in FL until last week. NIB it was a jam-a-rama. I sent it back to Kel Tec. The first time I got it back it was a joke. I could look at it and tell it wouldn't work. Kel Tec cut the shell ramp down into a tiny triangle. I sent it back again. This time when I got it back it actually worked. Kel Tec put a new barrel in it. They also replaced the trigger mechanism. The new trigger mechanism is better made. The P-3AT has actually fired 54 shots without a failure, all WWB.

People talk about handguns being ammo sensitive. I just can't buy into ammo sensitive. Ammo is not manufactured like it used to be. All ammo of a certain brand was manufactured at one of their plants. Today ammo is manufactured by the lowest bidder and subject to change at any time.

I have never shot any gun that unbearable with one brand of ammo that was flawless with another brand.

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