Concealed Carry in Business Attire


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CmdrSlander
July 27, 2012, 08:58 PM
So, I normally carry a full sized M1911 in a Cross Breed SuperTuck, with an un-tucked shirt concealing the exposed parts of the holster and firearm. It used to be that I could get away with an un-tucked shirt at work so long as I wore nice pants and a clean, pressed dress shirt, however, a new job function that has been assigned to me requires that a suit be worn at times, and thus, my shirt must be tucked in. I might be missing something but I think this renders my current carry set up unusable.

What are my other options? Do I need to get a smaller gun and pocket carry?

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627PCFan
July 27, 2012, 09:18 PM
I take it carry is not allowed per company policy?

CmdrSlander
July 27, 2012, 09:22 PM
It is. [To Clarify: It is allowed. That is what I originally meant.]

camsdaddy
July 27, 2012, 09:28 PM
Smartcarry

627PCFan
July 27, 2012, 09:31 PM
Pocket carry of a j frame is as close to deep concealment as your going to come. Def ditch waistband carry of all kinds

ShadowsEye
July 27, 2012, 09:36 PM
So, I normally carry a full sized M1911 in a Cross Breed SuperTuck, with an un-tucked shirt concealing the exposed parts of the holster and firearm. It used to be that I could get away with an un-tucked shirt at work so long as I wore nice pants and a clean, pressed dress shirt, however, a new job function that has been assigned to me requires that a suit be worn at times, and thus, my shirt must be tucked in. I might be missing something but I think this renders my current carry set up unusable.

What are my other options? Do I need to get a smaller gun and pocket carry?

Why not tuck the supertuck or make the conscious decision to leave your jacket on when you want to be concealed?

CmdrSlander
July 27, 2012, 09:41 PM
Simple ......don't violate company policy. Jobs are hard to find these days.
It IS NOT prohibited. I am on excellent terms with the management and have their blessing.

CmdrSlander
July 27, 2012, 09:42 PM
Why not tuck the supertuck or make the conscious decision to leave your jacket on when you want to be concealed?
That is certainly an option.

CmdrSlander
July 27, 2012, 09:46 PM
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Where did I state that? I don't see that anywhere.

The_Armed_Therapist
July 27, 2012, 10:07 PM
I agree with ShadowsEye... Why not tuck it in? I'm kind of wondering why you bought a tuckable holster to not tuck in a shirt. Have you tried it? If you need to wear a suit, then keep your jacket on. Or, perhaps, if that's just unbearable, you could get a nice, lighter jacket to where over your business attire.

I'm no fan of only pocket carry. It can and should be avoided. If nothing else, I wouldn't rule out purchasing another CCW, but nothing pocketable.

CmdrSlander
July 27, 2012, 10:10 PM
I agree with ShadowsEye... Why not tuck it in? I'm kind of wondering why you bought a tuckable holster to not tuck in a shirt. Have you tried it? If you need to wear a suit, then keep your jacket on. Or, perhaps, if that's just unbearable, you could get a nice, lighter jacket to where over your business attire.

I'm no fan of only pocket carry. It can and should be avoided. If nothing else, I wouldn't rule out purchasing another CCW, but nothing pocketable.
Something has to cover the weapon completely and if not wearing a jacket then that is the untucked shirt. A light jacket may be the way to go though.

Flash!
July 27, 2012, 10:13 PM
When I had to wear a suit at work, I used to carry a compact sized weapon in Thunderwear......

JoeShmoe
July 27, 2012, 10:17 PM
Something has to cover the weapon completely and if not wearing a jacket then that is the untucked shirt. A light jacket may be the way to go though.
The Supertuck is designed to tuck your shirt over the gun and inside the clips inside the waist band. When done correctly it looks like a normally tucked in dress shirt. Carry the gun at a forward cant, behind the hip, tuck your shirt between the gun and waist band, and blouse your shirt just a bit. To draw, pull your shirt out with your support hand while drawing with your strong hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sba22lojGbw

FMF Doc
July 27, 2012, 11:51 PM
I used a neoprene shoulder holster under my tux shirt with a jacket over it for weddings for a while when I was doing some photography on the side. I don't really care about the cost of a $70 shirt when I have to use my pistol to save my life. It is much more concealable that people think

GBExpat
July 28, 2012, 07:41 AM
When I used to "suit/sportcoat carry" I used a leather pancake holster. I found that my Colt Combat Commander was a bit bulky for this so I usually opted for a smaller piece.

bds
July 28, 2012, 09:31 AM
Concealed Carry in Business Attire
Police detectives, US Marshals, FBI agents and Secret Service do it all the time, everyday. :D

And I do believe they are issued full-size service pistols and some carry 1911s.

X-Rap
July 28, 2012, 10:13 AM
They are spendy if you need a bunch of them but those tee shirts with the holsters do work well and will easily conceal a pistol under a dress shirt if it isn't to tight. It is probably about as fast as some of the other deep concealment options already given.

Sam1911
July 28, 2012, 10:14 AM
The Supertuck is designed to tuck your shirt over the gun and inside the clips inside the waste band. When done correctly it looks like a normally tucked in dress shirt. Carry the gun at a forward cant, behind the hip, tuck your shirt between the gun and waste band, and blouse your shirt just a bit. To draw, pull your shirt out with your support hand while drawing with your strong hand.



This is the best and easiest answer. It's why tuckable holsters were invented!

I carry a 5" Gov't model that way frequently.

oldrevolverguy
July 28, 2012, 12:13 PM
I have the same issue. I often carry my Glock 26 in a Cell Pal holster.

http://www.concealedcomfort.com/

Ricky T
July 28, 2012, 02:01 PM
Since your company allows carrying a sidearm and you have to wear a suit, there is no reason to go with a crotch or underwear girdle holster and carry subcaliber miniature gun. A proper IWB or even OWB holster can conceal most full size handgun. Like another poster said, the USSS, FBI, and various federal agents do it all the time.

When I do have to wear a suit to business or social functions, I carry one of my Smith & Wesson K frame revolvers in a 5shot leather or Lobo gunleather OWB holsters. For whatever reason, a revolver is easier to carry under a fitted jacket than a semi auto of the same size. I've carried K frames with 2", 2.5" and 3" and have never been noticed. Buy your coat jacket one size bigger and you will be fine.

A friend of mine who used to work in a very gun UNFRIENDLY/PROHIBITIVE environment carried a full size 1911 in a Milt Sparks Summer Special everyday for many years. His job required wearing a sport coat or suit jacket so concealment was not an issue for him.

marklmurray
July 28, 2012, 05:36 PM
Smartcarry

+1 This is what I use. It works.

One_Jackal
July 28, 2012, 06:58 PM
Many police officers opt for a shoulder holster. They also wear a coat all the time.

WardenWolf
July 28, 2012, 07:25 PM
You could get a DeSantis tuckable holster. That's what I use when I absolutely have to have my shirt tucked.

IlikeSA
July 28, 2012, 07:27 PM
I would just wear a three piece suit and wear an IWB holster. I have carried an XD9SC that way and taken off my jacket. The vest conceals the IWB holster and weapon perfectly well. You'll want to wear darker colors (charcoal, navy, black) and avoid pinstripes if you can though. The other option would be an ankle holster, but having tried that I am not a fan.

1911 guy
July 28, 2012, 11:32 PM
IWB holster under the suit jacket. This is my normal "go to meetin'" mode of carry. The other six days of the week are an OWB and untucked shirt.

FMF Doc
July 29, 2012, 12:58 AM
Since your company allows carrying a sidearm and you have to wear a suit, there is no reason to go with a crotch or underwear girdle holster and carry subcaliber miniature gun. A proper IWB or even OWB holster can conceal most full size handgun. Like another poster said, the USSS, FBI, and various federal agents do it all the time.

When I do have to wear a suit to business or social functions, I carry one of my Smith & Wesson K frame revolvers in a 5shot leather or Lobo gunleather OWB holsters. For whatever reason, a revolver is easier to carry under a fitted jacket than a semi auto of the same size. I've carried K frames with 2", 2.5" and 3" and have never been noticed. Buy your coat jacket one size bigger and you will be fine.

A friend of mine who used to work in a very gun UNFRIENDLY/PROHIBITIVE environment carried a full size 1911 in a Milt Sparks Summer Special everyday for many years. His job required wearing a sport coat or suit jacket so concealment was not an issue for him.
The difference though, is that the federal LEOs have a badge, and really don't care who sees them with their gun. If the idea is "concealed carry" then certain efforts must be made to keep the gun concealed. If open carry is alright for the op, then I agree, just use your regular OWB holster.

Sam1911
July 29, 2012, 07:58 AM
If open carry is alright for the op, then I agree, just use your regular OWB holster.
The OP's daily carry holster is a Cross Breed Super Tuck. He's got this one solved from the start and didn't realize it!

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