Bought my ugliest gun yet!


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Ian
July 27, 2012, 09:08 PM
I just bought a Frommer 1910, which is uglier than even a Type 94 Nambu. It's a neat gun mechanically, though, with a long recoil action in a cartridge even smaller than .32 ACP. It should arrive (with original holster!) at the dealer on Monday. :D

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OARNGESI
July 27, 2012, 09:17 PM
is that gun coming without a magazine?

Ian
July 27, 2012, 09:38 PM
No, the magazine is there - you can see it in the gun in the photo.

tarosean
July 27, 2012, 10:13 PM
Still better looking than a high point...

Texan Scott
July 27, 2012, 10:36 PM
I have one of those... it's red, and you stamp plug of potato out with the barrel, and shoot 'em across the living room. They're fun!

mgmorden
July 27, 2012, 11:10 PM
Its more "unique" than ugly. To some degree I like that some of the early turn of the century autos still were all over the map looks-wise. Nowadays the 1911 kinda influenced them all and all of them have that same "look" to them.

forindooruseonly
July 28, 2012, 01:48 AM
Pretty funky! I like it... thanks for sharing. I don't know if it's uglier than the 94 though - of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Is ammo available for that, or at least possible to make out of available components?

56hawk
July 28, 2012, 02:16 AM
Nice. I have the later Frommer Stop which luckily shoots normal 32 ACP. Though I have to load it on the hot side to cycle the long recoil action. Are you going to be able to find ammo for yours?

strykerfire
July 28, 2012, 04:19 AM
I've never seen an ugly firearm and never will. Even a high point is good looking when your looking down the sights at a target.

Ian
July 28, 2012, 05:50 AM
Ammo is going to be tricky - I'd like to be able to find a few original cartridges to measure the brass and chrono the bullet prior to trimming .32 brass and handloading some of my own.

critter
July 28, 2012, 06:22 AM
That is one of the 'so ugly' that it is 'cute' in a weird sort of way. Betcha it is an interesting piece of history.

Ash
July 28, 2012, 07:12 AM
That one, the Roth-Steyr pistols, Bergmans, they all have that funky "we're not sure what an auto should look like" appearance.

Handguns were more interesting "back in the day," before Browning and Walther showed the most efficient ways to make them.

The exposed barrel ethic that even Walther liked had an elegance to it, and some very fine pistols were built to the standard such as the Nambu (all three varieties), the Lahti, of course the Parabellum and even P38, as well as the boxy Webley and the Glisenti/Brixia.

Ruger knew what he was doing when he chose that aesthetic in a pistol (even though the Ruger autos look more Nambu/Lahti/Glensti than Luger).

Kiln
July 29, 2012, 04:40 AM
I think it looks pretty cool. Definately not the most beautiful firearm I've seen but not the worst either.

Ash
July 29, 2012, 06:48 AM
Looking at a pistol like that, before investment casting was the rage, with all the flowing curves, few angles, and complex grips, it makes you wonder just how many manufacturing steps were required to actually make it.

One_Jackal
July 29, 2012, 06:50 AM
It looks better than a Glock

Cearbhall
July 30, 2012, 03:00 AM
Here's a little info on the Frommer 1910 pistol:
http://www.forgottenweapons.com/frommer-1910-pistol/

skt239
July 30, 2012, 06:44 AM
I can't wait to read a range report on that thing. Congrats on the new gun.

SleazyRider
July 30, 2012, 07:39 AM
Sure, she's homely ... but can she cook?

Ash
July 30, 2012, 08:19 AM
If you're gonna be happy for the rest of your life...

Ian
July 30, 2012, 07:33 PM
Cearbhall - I'm well acquainted with that site, because I wrote it. :)

The gun actually arrived today, and I just picked it up from my dealer. The holster turns out to be in amazingly good shape. The pistol is smaller than you would expect from seeing photos, and the magazine in particular is just tiny. It's like a Luger mag left in the clothes dryer.

Interestingly, the hammer doesn't have a halfcock notch - smacking the hammer when it's in the down position will push the firing pin forward and fire the gun if it's loaded. I haven't taken it apart yet, though, so it's possible that's the result of a broken hammer spring.

h0use
July 30, 2012, 09:11 PM
Wow thanks for sharing. Never seen one of those guns before. Learn something new everyday. How much does something like that cost?

19-3Ben
July 30, 2012, 09:22 PM
Neat stuff. Mind posting pics when you get the chance? I'm sure I'm not the only guy here who'd love to see some more pics of that... beauty?

Ian
July 30, 2012, 11:06 PM
Tough to say what the cost is - I found record of one going at auction not too long ago for $2500, but the expected value was $500-$750. There's another one currently advertised by a dealer online for $4000, but everything on the guy's site is overpriced. I didn't pay nearly that much - the seller needed money right away and I offered the most I could afford.

I'll be doing a video on it for Forgotten Weapons at some point here, and I'll post photos at the same time.

b7tac
July 31, 2012, 07:51 AM
I don't think it's ugly at all - I love it! Cool addition you made there.

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