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mshootnit
July 27, 2012, 11:20 PM
looking at the 16, and 11 series rifles and I am aware there have been several changes in these over the years.
1. What are the advantages of the detachable box magazine versus the hinged floorplate version? (why would they offer both if there wasn't a significant difference?)
2. Do all the new synthetic rifles come with accu-stock?
3. What are your general impressions on the accuracy of these now... as good as they were in 2005?
Thanks in advance!:cool:

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mshootnit
July 27, 2012, 11:33 PM
also is the teardrop 3 position safety new or different from the old tang safety? I liked the tang safety...:confused:

jmr40
July 28, 2012, 10:32 AM
Some guys just like a detachable mag, others prefer the simplicity of a floorplate. A blind magazine is the simplest with no chance of a malfunction. A gun with a blind floorplate can be built as much as 1/2 lb lighter. A detachable mag can be easier to load and unload. It can also be lost and most folks buy at least 1 spare just in case, which adds to the cost. There are enough who like each type to justify building all 3 types.

My personal preference is slightly towards a blind magazine, but like a floorplate well enough. I don't really want a 4 round DM on a bolt rifle. I can load 4-5 rounds by hand easy enough. On a 20-30 round AR it is different.

Some come with the accu-stock, some do not. The accu-stock has not lived up to it's initial hype. If it is any more accurate than the other stocks it is not enough for most folks to notice.

Same with the Accu-trigger. There is nothing magic about the Accu-trigger. It is just a foolproof way for a DIY trigger adjustment that will not let the gun become dangerous. Lots of guns out there with much better triggers that don't need to be adjusted after you get them home.

I've owned 3 Savage rifle's, my son-in-law owns one and my brother used to own one. I've never shot one that was accurate enough to earn a spot in my safe. I have Winchesters, Remingtons, FN's and several others that have all been better. But I've never seen a Savage that shot poorly either.

As long as you use quality parts, and screw everything together straight any gun is going to be accurate. With most other guns this requires a skilled machine operator, or accurate CNC machines to get close tolerences. The Savage action and bolt design is made so that they will still fit together straight without worrying so much about quality machining. This means you can build a gun much less expensively, and with very few that shoot poorly. But in my experience, no more accurate than any other gun that is put together right.

jimmyraythomason
July 28, 2012, 10:52 AM
Savage has become my favorite bolt rifle brand. I currently own 2 and have owned more than I can count. Not one has been a disappointment in the accuracy department. As to why Savage would make a blind magazine,floorplate magazine AND a DM version of the same rifle,the answer is the same as why a car maker would offer a 4 speed,a 5 speed or an automatic transmission in the same model car. Diversity of the buying public. Not everyone wants the same thing.

Georgia45cal
July 28, 2012, 11:18 AM
Compared to Remington, Savage is doing a better job of giving people what they want.

For example, offering left handed models in many different configurations. They offer faster twists such as 1/7 in .223 Remington and 1/10 in .308 Winchester. They support some relatively obscure cartridges such as .308 Palma, .260 Remington, 6.5mm Creedmoor, 6mm Norma BR, 6.5x284 Norma, etc.

There are a lot of people that just want to buy a rifle ready to go and Savage does a great job of marketing to those people.

mshootnit
July 29, 2012, 02:15 AM
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