high capacity .22lr pistol?


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jason41987
July 30, 2012, 04:31 AM
hey everyone.. ive been trying to find a high cap .22lr pistol, to take along on backpacking trips... so i can carry a full magazine of around 30 rounds and not have to carry any spares...

unfortunately, the sig mosquito, ruger SR22 and similar pistols only carry 10... does anyone know of any that carry more... or could a pre-existing 9mm pistol be converted, and carry a larger amount in the magazine?

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mnrivrat
July 30, 2012, 04:41 AM
The only thing that comes to mind is the Ruger pistol that looks like a cut down 10/22. That would allow you to use Hi-capacity after marked magazines.

In 22 Mag the Kel-Tec PM 30 ( if I have that correct) has a 30 round magazine.

Not convienced that what your going for is a good idea, but that's a different discussion.

jason41987
July 30, 2012, 04:48 AM
i wanted something for outdoors.. like a backup/survival firearm and i was considering a henry U.S. survival AR-7, but figured i could get more with less weight and bulk going with a pistol... didnt want to have to pack a bunch of different mags, so i was looking for a pistol that could carry a lot

hentown
July 30, 2012, 07:22 AM
Why not just carry a Ruger, Buckmark, etc., with extra ammo in a ziplock, if you don't want to carry extra mags?? I can't think of a really good reason for needing a bunch of .22 l.r. in one mag for "survival" purposes.

pockets
July 30, 2012, 09:54 AM
A few come to mind...all are a bit large.
Ruger Charger
Volquartsen
Intratec Tec22
Mossberg 702 Plinkster
Charter Arms Explorer II (with Ramline or National extended mag)
Masterpiece Arms MPA22
etc, etc, etc

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Sam1911
July 30, 2012, 10:07 AM
I think the only realistic answer to your question is the Calico M-110 (http://calicolightweaponsystems.com/home/index.php?page=22-2).

Sam1911
July 30, 2012, 10:13 AM
Actually, a far more practical solution would be the KelTec PMR-30 (http://keltecweapons.com/our-guns/pistols/pmr-30/) which actually does hold 30 in its standard size magazines, and is not much larger or bulkier than a full-sized service sidearm.

You'd have to settle for moving up to .22 WMRs, but such is life. PMR-30s are sometimes a little hard to find, but they're out there. I've never even seen a Calico M-110 in person, and don't know anyone who has, so that would be more of a challenge.

j1
July 30, 2012, 10:46 AM
Hi cap mags are nice when shooting but a pain to carry a lot.

BCRider
July 30, 2012, 11:50 AM
Is it really THAT big a deal to reload a mag after 10 rounds?

jimbo555
July 30, 2012, 12:07 PM
Just when you thought you've seen everything Sam! That calico 110 looks like the ultimate plinker pistol!:D

Sam1911
July 30, 2012, 12:11 PM
That calico 110 looks like the ultimate plinker pistol

I'm not sure how good a gun the Calico line really is, or isn't. Their biggest flaw was being brought out onto the market just before the Federal AWB went into effect in 1994. Hard to sell a whole lot of oddball guns designed to hold 50 or 100 rounds when they can only sell 10 round mags!

These days things should be better for them, but the AWB sunset 8 years ago and you still don't see their products around much.

tuj
July 30, 2012, 12:18 PM
calico's have crap triggers and the magazine quality is questionable (ie they can jam a lot). they are neat, but never perfected.

staggering rimmed cartridges is difficult in the double-stack mag.

GEM
July 30, 2012, 12:19 PM
Isn't it the case that we don't have hicap 22s as the cartridge configuration makes staggering the rounds difficult?

One should always carry a spare mag as magazines go blooey at times.

Fiv3r
July 30, 2012, 12:50 PM
I'd rather pack 2 extra magazines than a big 30 rounder. Actually, when I camp/hike, I pack a Mk III with one extra mag in my vest and 50 more rounds sealed up in a pill bottle. When I canoe, I take a stainless Taurus 94 with the same pill bottle.

I don't want to mess with magazines if I could lose them in the drink. Besides, as was mentioned earlier, if your mag goes south on you, it's better to have back ups. The only reason I carry a spare mag with the Ruger is because of redundancy and liking the fact of having a bit more firepower should I need to press the small .22 into defense service.

rcmodel
July 30, 2012, 12:56 PM
and not have to carry any spares...Murphys Law of Magazines:

1 = 0. You will loose it or break it.
2 = 1. You will loose or break one of the two.
3 = 3. None will ever be lost, and all will work perfectly the rest of your life.

rc

jason41987
July 30, 2012, 01:55 PM
that calico does look interesting.. but does look to be overkill.. i do like the PM-30 a lot and would probably go that route, but is kel tec still manufacturing them?..also, someone mentioned pill bottles... how large of a pill bottle is neccessary to hold 50 rounds?.. seems like an interesting idea to bring more ammo for a mark 3

Fiv3r
July 30, 2012, 04:50 PM
The pill bottle I use is of the modern non-round variety that Target's pharmacy gives out with medication. I'm assuming it holds the same as the traditional round ones that have been around forever. These are flatter and more vase shaped, I guess. It works well because: It's the only pill bottle I had and it actually stores a bit flatter in my vest since it's not completely round.

It might not be exactly 50, but there are at least 46 rounds in there packed firmly but not forced or crunched in, so the cases shouldn't get dented yet there is very little rattle if you shake the bottle.

I do have to chuckle about the pill bottle though. It's from an old prescription I had filled before I took a trip in a plane to Ireland. I do not LIKE to be in the air. I REALLY do not LIKE being in the air over the Atlantic Ocean for 8+ hours. The bottle used to hold a couple of anti-anxiety pills to help me relax. I suppose one can also look at a bottle full of .22 rounds in an emergency outdoor survival situation as "anti-anxiety pills" as well:neener:

jason41987
July 30, 2012, 06:15 PM
hmm.. its not a bad idea to do that.. but i guess for backpacking it would be good to get a .22lr pistol that weighed very little.. i might go with that pill bottle idea.. i seem to have enough of them laying around... i havent shot .22lr in over a decade now, i moved on to larger rifles and pistols and just forgot how useful it is to have a .22lr

Magoo
July 30, 2012, 06:41 PM
I just found this the other day. http://www.packrifle.com/products.asp

I found a few reviews and folks were generally very happy and surprised at how nice of a gun it is.

For a backpacking/survival gun, this thing looks like it has a lot going for it. It only weighs 15.5 ounces and is a rifle (I'm giving the nod to a rifle over a pistol when you need your shots to count). It sure doesn't look like the best or most fun plinker, but pretty darn good for what it was intended for/ what you asked for.

Litlman
July 30, 2012, 06:58 PM
I saw a Ruger 10/22 take down that was cool. 2 of the new 30 round mags and they work well. It even comes in a small pack. Stainless, all weather stock. It went together in a snap. The Kel tec is a 22 mag. I have not seen one up close.

TennJed
July 30, 2012, 07:37 PM
A Colt/Umarex 1911 in .22lr has 12 round mags.

Great gun also

RSVP2RIP
July 30, 2012, 08:03 PM
Ceiner 1911 conversion has 15 round mag and it works.

Oldnoob
July 31, 2012, 01:27 AM
S&W model 41, 422, 622, 2206 all use same mag and holds 12rd. I won't call them "Hi caps" but they holds more than 10 shots. Most 22lr that holds more than 10rd are extra large pistol not really suitable for back packing, with that kind of size and weight, you might as well carry other caliber (ie: Glock is very light even amount other polymer frame pistol).

2206
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f185/johell/My%20gun/SW2206.jpg

jason41987
July 31, 2012, 02:37 AM
yeah.. seems i can pack more firepower with more ammunition and larger mag capacities if i just carried an SR9 backpacking... and with a buffalo bore load it would have a chance against possible bears... but i was looking for something to use for survival, in case i was stranded and needed to take small game for food...

how accurate are those mark III pistols? im curious

surjimmy
July 31, 2012, 02:45 AM
Kel-Tec 22mag, 30 round mag.

Coyote3855
July 31, 2012, 04:28 PM
I was on a waiting list for 18 months to get mine. It is my carry gun around the ranch. Does a number on feral cats and ground squirrels. Amazing light even with a full magazine. Fiber optic sights. Accurate and reliable after some break-in rounds. If I go traveling, I take the extra magazine and have 61 rounds at the ready.

jason41987
July 31, 2012, 04:36 PM
are they still making the PM-30 new?

Certaindeaf
August 1, 2012, 10:32 AM
Get an accurate 13-18 or so round 9mm and use high quality ammunition. I really don't think you'll regret it in the field.

mljdeckard
August 1, 2012, 12:00 PM
Yep, post #22. I loaned my conversion to a friend of mine while I was deployed, he shot the heck out of it, now it eats ANYTHING, thousands of rounds.

CraigC
August 2, 2012, 11:01 AM
Ceiner 1911 conversion has 15 round mag and it works.
Yep! I've got untold thousands through mine and it works flawlessly. Five more rounds doesn't sound like much but it makes shooting a lot more fun. Especially when you go through as much .22LR as I do.

Staggered magazines seem to work pretty good.
http://photos.imageevent.com/newfrontier45/miscellaneous/large/IMG_7134b.jpg

Furncliff
August 2, 2012, 11:26 AM
http://www.keltecweapons.com/uploaded_files/ourguns/gallery/b_15d179e7dd7ca525dc1c44dda16dcdf9PMR4.jpg

Kel Tech PMR 30

30 rounds of .22 magnum, extremely light. It had the weight and feel of water pistol when I hefted one at the LGS . I think you can still find them here and there (my guy still has the one I saw a few months ago).

56hawk
August 2, 2012, 11:39 AM
Another thought might be the FN FiveseveN pistol. Standard mags are 20 rounds, but they do make 30 round extended magazines. Also the 5.7x28mm round is about four times as powerful as a 22LR and a lot more reliable.

weblance
August 2, 2012, 09:27 PM
how accurate are those mark III pistols? im curious

1" at 25 yards over a rest, with a scope, 2-3" open sights over a rest.

saenzrich
August 3, 2012, 04:55 PM
Technically they are pistols...but big...and I'm sure theres others too

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/54598/Kel-Tec+PLR22+22LR+Pistol+27%2B1+Capacity

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/61755/Umarex+HK+416+Tactical+Pistol+22LR+9%22+20RD

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