6.5 Creedmore catching on?


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Kachok
July 30, 2012, 11:54 PM
I have been noticing that the little Creedmore seems to be becoming more popular among rifle makers as of late, 1st Ruger chambered it...no biggy they often jump on something new, then Savage...kinna suprising but I see why with their long range shooter following. Then TC jumps on the bandwagon... that one really surprised me. Now Browning is chambering it in the A-Bolt!!! BROWNING! And to top it all off DPMS chambers an AR in it which means Remington will likely follow.
At first I though that the Creedmore would be another 6.5-284 bound for 1,000yd match obscurity forever (say the 111 LRH), or another 338 Federal (R.I.P) but it seems to be catching some traction, What are your thoughs on the new 6.5mm?

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snakeman
July 31, 2012, 12:06 AM
I think it looks promising. I really considered one but for some odd reason selected a 257 weatherby instead and am extremely happy with my purchase btw.

Kachok
July 31, 2012, 12:35 AM
The 257 Wby is a totally different class of cartrage, it is designed to sling very light pills VERY fast great for flat shooting and leveling pronghorn at 400yd, the Creedmore is no faster then a 308 but has astounding ballistics, so it does not shoot as flat at 400 but drifts less at long range and retains more energy.

taliv
July 31, 2012, 12:40 AM
the 6.5CM is firmly entrenched in precision field matches. if you don't want to handload it's about the only competitive choice for factory ammo.

HOOfan_1
July 31, 2012, 01:32 AM
Ruger and Thompson Center seem to have some sort of deal with Hornady me thinks. Most cartridges that bear the Ruger name were developed by Hornady. The 30 TC is a necked up 6.5 Creedmoor. I am thinking that has something to do with them cambering it before most other manufacturers have. Personally, I wish some American manufacturers would offer the 6.5x55 as a standard option.

Kachok
July 31, 2012, 01:42 AM
Personally, I wish some American manufacturers would offer the 6.5x55 as a standard option.
+1..... no make that +100 Love me a good 6.5x55, The reason the 6.5 Creedmore interests me is because it is a ballistic twin to the Sweed in a short action package.

HOOfan_1
July 31, 2012, 02:13 AM
+1..... no make that +100 Love me a good 6.5x55, The reason the 6.5 Creedmore interests me is because it is a ballistic twin to the Sweed in a short action package.

Swede is probably capable of more, but SAAMI has handicapped it due to Old small ring Mausers and Krags....reloading manual publishers won't go far past that 46,000 CUP limit...modern guns should be capable of 50,000 CUP

jason41987
July 31, 2012, 06:31 AM
6.5mm creedmor = 6.5x55mm in a .308 action... the old 6.5x5mm was rather old, and low pressured, so by todays standards in ammunition you might as well shorten the case, increase the pressure so we can get the same ballistics in all those short action on the market today

cacoltguy
July 31, 2012, 08:21 AM
Its a great choice if you want to shoot long range competitively but don't want to reload. Ballistically though it doesn't do anything better than the .260 remington (which is also a popular round for long range competition). .260 remington pretty much necessitates reloading however since off the shelf ammo is limited to hunting applications. My next gun purchase will shoot a 6.5 bullet and I debated back and forth between 6.5 CM, 6.5x55 swede and .260 rem. My vote goes to .260 rem.

rayatphonix
July 31, 2012, 09:24 AM
Thompson Center advertises that they produce rifles in 6.5 Creedmoor. I've been looking for over a year and none of their distributers/sellers has been able to come up with one. Can someone help me here?

I've got both a Creedmoor and a 260 and agree that they are very, very similar. I struggle with reloading the Creedmoor somewhat as load data is confusing and contradictory. Varying sources have minimum and maximum loads that vary considerably and arriving at consistant performace took some time. As things move forward, however, I think this will resolve itself.

Kachok
July 31, 2012, 09:34 AM
Thompson Center advertises that they produce rifles in 6.5 Creedmoor. I've been looking for over a year and none of their distributers/sellers has been able to come up with one. Can someone help me here?

I've got both a Creedmoor and a 260 and agree that they are very, very similar. I struggle with reloading the Creedmoor somewhat as load data is confusing and contradictory. Varying sources have minimum and maximum loads that vary considerably and arriving at consistant performace took some time. As things move forward, however, I think this will resolve itself.
Everywhere I have seen them listed they are sold out, you might want to place an order for one through a distributor rather then wait for them to find you one.

HOOfan_1
July 31, 2012, 10:38 AM
Do serious competitors in precision shooting use factory ammo?

Anyway, there is .260 Remington match ammo available

Cor-Bon and Black Hills load Lapua Scenar of various weights

NeuseRvrRat
July 31, 2012, 10:48 AM
some competitors believe their time is better spent practicing on the range than chasing the perfect handload

cacoltguy
July 31, 2012, 11:06 AM
At about $50 a box for a box of 20 (.260) those competitors would have to be pretty well healed or they don't practice too much. 6.5 creedmor match ammo gooes for about half that

Snag
August 1, 2012, 01:20 AM
This cartridge interests me a lot, as does any cartridge that is flat shooting with low recoil. It seems to be every bit the twin of the 260 and more.

rbernie
August 1, 2012, 09:49 AM
What is the advantage of the round over 260? I've not quite ever figured that one out....

HOOfan_1
August 1, 2012, 10:38 AM
In a bolt rifle, not much that I can think of. In an AR, you could seat the bullets out farther and still fit in the magazine.

Snag
August 1, 2012, 11:33 AM
What is the advantage of the round over 260?

Ballistically? Everything I've read says they are the same. Or as close to being the same as your going to get. Other things like cheaper boxed ammo, reportedly longer barrel life, and being a shorter case are attractive features to me.

snakeman
August 1, 2012, 11:51 AM
I know the advangtages of the 6.5 over the 257. I selected the 257 for pronghorn and wheatfield whitetails. It's worked well for both. I can shoot it well to 500 yards as that's as far as I've practiced. I'm sure had I got the creedmoor or the howa 6.5x55 I considered, I would be able to shoot it equally well. It's all a matter of practice.

cacoltguy
August 1, 2012, 02:01 PM
.260 Remington has a little more case capacity from what I understand but whether or not it makes any practical difference I don't know. Here's a pretty good article about some different offerings in the 6.5mm realm:

http://demigodllc.com/articles/6.5-shootout-260-6.5x47-6.5-creedmoor/

taliv
August 1, 2012, 02:11 PM
Do serious competitors in precision shooting use factory ammo?

yep, not many but definitely some, particularly military shooters and people who are sponsored by ammo mfgs :)

What is the advantage of the round over 260? I've not quite ever figured that one out....

it's shorter case and i believe slightly longer neck allow you to seat the bullet out further and still fit in gas gun magazines. the 30* (vs 20* on the 260) shoulder still allows good feeding (as compared to the sometimes finicky 40* ackley shoulders) but offers slightly more case capacity (making up lost ground from shortening it) and theoretically less throat erosion (dunno about this one) and less trimming (i can confirm this one)

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