Taurus better than the rest?


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Walking Dead
August 1, 2012, 10:36 PM
I notices George Wehby uses Taurus firearms on his show Person Defense TV on the sportsman channel. Do you think this is a sponsorship deal or a preference? Either way do you think it may lead to better quality from Taurus?

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MedWheeler
August 1, 2012, 10:48 PM
I haven't seen the show; don't get that channel. I'd have to base any guess on what I see (does he keep mentioning the name, or are you just "noticing" the brand?) If the name keeps coming up, it's probably a sponsorship thing. There is also the slight chance he uses the brand to "stay in the real world", so to speak, when addressing viewers who may not be as "into" firearms are are we.
Taurus is definitely a qualified contender in the self-and-home/family-defense category, but I doubt anyone would call them "better than the rest." In that market, though, it is hard to find a better value.

skt239
August 1, 2012, 10:51 PM
If he's on tv and he is prominently displaying a product or idea, there's always some sort of agreement.

If you're asking us if Taurus is the best firearms manufacturer in the entire world because someone uses there guns on tv, I think the answer will be a resounding no.

jim243
August 2, 2012, 12:15 AM
This is a tough question to answer. There is NO DOUBT they are one of the best values out there on the market. But are they better than the rest - NO.

I am a Taurus fan and they make some excelent guns, they also make some that have had many problems. Their PT-92 and PT-99 (9mm) are better in my opinion than the Beretta 92's & M-9's they are clones of. Their PT-1911 is the best value for price and features of any 1911 out on the market. I have in the past own their PT-140 Mil-Pro and Tracker in 357 Mag which were excelent, reliable and very accurate. My best friend just purchased their PT-101 (40 S&W) and is extreemly happy with it (clone of the Beretta 96).

Taurus like all other brands do make some that will need to be worked on by the factory (Brazil). You need to thoughly check out any pistol you are purchasing to make sure it is functioning properly and I do mean completely check it out.

I would also suggest looking at the M&P line of pistols.

Good Luck and Good Shooting.
Jim


http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/bigjim_02/SAM_0426.jpg

45_auto
August 2, 2012, 08:32 AM
Now I understand why he uses Tauruses (Tauri?) on a self defense show. One look at that PT92 above sure made me cringe away from it!

Shipwreck
August 2, 2012, 08:41 AM
If he is using a Taurus on tv, someone has gotta be paying him...:uhoh:

el Godfather
August 2, 2012, 08:55 AM
Who is Wheby??
Anyways, Taurus is not better then the rest! That is for sure.

I am not a Taurus fan and I question wisdom of this Wheby guy who is doing a show on defense and using an inferior contraption.

j1
August 2, 2012, 08:58 AM
It may be true that someone is paying him but do not forget that he must use some gun paid or not.:)

jim243
August 2, 2012, 09:53 AM
Now I understand why he uses Tauruses (Tauri?) on a self defense show. One look at that PT92 above sure made me cringe away from it!


Why??

Jim

Yo Mama
August 2, 2012, 10:11 AM
Either way do you think it may lead to better quality from Taurus?

Taurus already had high quality firearms.

Why??

Because some are just died in the wool Taurus haters. It's sad, they miss out on some fun guns.

Baba Louie
August 2, 2012, 10:24 AM
Either way do you think it may lead to better quality from Taurus?
One can only hope.Why??Could it be that bling is not his thing?

But as to Taurus being better than the rest? Probably not. As good as some, sure. Better than others, probably. Less than others in some regards, sure.

They do have a few stellar performers in their lineup with some, such as myself, preferring the frame mtd safety on their PT92/99 lineup.

Maybe someday their customer service and overall quality control will step up to the plate where everyone will sing their praises. Hopefully. Till then, you pays yer money you takes yer chances. (which is true about a lot of makers and things sold in the market today)

2wheels
August 2, 2012, 10:25 AM
I assume he's referring to all the gold bling Taurus seems to love putting on their guns, something I'll never warm up to.

bannockburn
August 2, 2012, 10:35 AM
Using Taurus firearms on the show certainly sounds like product placement on the part of Taurus. I wouldn't necessarily say their guns are better than the rest (not sure who or what the "rest" are), but the ones I have had have been decent performers.

joecil
August 2, 2012, 10:50 AM
I've owned a lot of guns in my life and mostly semi auto handguns since 79 when I carried a Beretta 92. I own 3 Taurus guns now and they have all been flawless with the least shot a PT911 with 2000 rds, PT92 with 6000 and my daily carry gun for 3 years until my wife took it as hers with well over 10K rounds with only a recoil spring assembly replacement. I now carry a RIA/Armscor 1911 CS. I equate Taurus with a product like Lee reloading gear, great price, does the job consistently and dependable.

Are they the best I doubt but then what is the best to a collector or someones life depending on it I guess is the question.

Shipwreck
August 2, 2012, 11:51 AM
:D:D:D

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/mistershipwreck/Website%20Stuff/notaurus2.jpg

Dlowe167
August 3, 2012, 12:21 AM
I carry a Taurus pt745 compact. Great gun! Im partial to my CZ P-06. But the taurus fits so well in my hand. Comfort is key. I also own a Taurus Raging Judge .45 lc/.410. I love taurus for the price great funs. Also Taurus has came a long ways,and the back their products!

Certaindeaf
August 3, 2012, 12:26 AM
^
Great big lolz for the Shipwreck.

Texan Scott
August 3, 2012, 12:55 AM
Taurus is NOT better than all the rest... they're better than some, not as good as others. They're also more expensive than some, but not as expensive as others. I've owned a couple, and they were always worth what I paid for them. If you see one that looks like it would do what you need, handle one... if it feels right, at a good price, go for it. I've never had one break that wasn't my fault, but it's worth noting that they have good customer service, too.

Fishslayer
August 3, 2012, 09:04 PM
Now I understand why he uses Tauruses (Tauri?) on a self defense show. One look at that PT92 above sure made me cringe away from it!

That one's OK but this is better! :evil:

Actually... I was looking at this one in my LGS. Just something about it...

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn215/THE_Fishslayer/OSR/OSR1/TaurusPT92.jpg

rcmodel
August 3, 2012, 09:09 PM
NO!

If he wanted to use the best Taurus out there?
He would be using Beretta autos and S&W revolvers Taurus copied most of there guns off of many years ago.

rc

snakeman
August 3, 2012, 09:54 PM
I just bought an M&P9 kit and couldn't be happier with it.

snakeman
August 3, 2012, 10:06 PM
Gotta say...I love the pt 92 but that's way too much bling!

Fishslayer
August 3, 2012, 10:32 PM
NO!

If he wanted to use the best Taurus out there?
He would be using Beretta autos and S&W revolvers Taurus copied most of there guns off of many years ago.

rc

Some people actually prefer the Taurus PT92 for the frame mounted safety. I don't own any of their bottom feeders but from owners' accounts the PT92 & PT1911 are some pretty well made weapons.

_JD_
August 3, 2012, 11:13 PM
If he is using a Taurus on tv, someone has gotta be paying him...


Why don't you tell us how you really feel?:barf:


For what it's worth, he uses a lot of different guns, all of which sponsor the show. I've seen him use Rugers and other guns as well.

As for Taurus being better than the rest? I will simply say "No (http://gunstuff-jd.blogspot.com/search/label/Taurus%20PT1911)"

Shipwreck
August 3, 2012, 11:33 PM
Why don't you tell us how you really feel?

U don't wanna know what I think :D

tryshoot
August 4, 2012, 12:24 AM
Like my pt-99 much better. Never had problems of any taurus I've owned.

Auf Grosser Fahrt
August 4, 2012, 09:07 PM
Don't listen to anti-Taurus propaganda. An ongoing issue of "that there pistol ain't 'Merican, boy!" :banghead:

Shipwreck
August 4, 2012, 09:48 PM
An ongoing issue of "that there pistol ain't 'Merican, boy!

Ain't nothing to do with that. I like Brazilian Springfield 1911s... Italian Berettas, etc... Its about Taurus quality sucks...

MCgunner
August 4, 2012, 10:00 PM
My Tauri. I love 'em.

66 4" and 85SSUL

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh305/goose150/PICT00481.jpg

3" 66 with its kill.

http://i50.tinypic.com/1zzj2g3.jpg

PS, shipwrecks opinion sux. :D

DylNger
August 4, 2012, 10:33 PM
People are dancing around this issue. Let's face it. Taurus has made some absolute junk in the past. But in the last 15 years they seem to have changed their policies and are making much better guns. I have a PT-145 that has been flawless through 6000 rounds. I still use it as my CCW gun pretty often. And Taurus has developed a lot of new technologies over the past few years. They no longer copy everything from S&W or Beretta. BTW that 92 isn't for everyone. It's, uh, "bright". Yeah that's it. Nothing wrong with that if that's what your taste is. But many don't have that taste.

I love my Taurus. It has some truly amazing features like the ability to store 10 rounds of .45 ACP in the space it takes some guns to store 5. I still can't get over how they managed to get that many rounds in such a small pistol. Plus the grips are excellent, the second strike function for taking a second hit on a mis-fired round is also a good idea. My Taurus is way more accurate than it should be for the barrel length it has. It isn't that heavy for what it is. And the price is certainly right or at least it was when I bought mine. I paid $325 for mine brand new with an extra mag. And they have a lifetime warranty. Getting warranty service may not be quick or easy but that's why we buy backups. Everyone should have at least 3 CCW pistols IMO.

Taurus has made some guns that rate right up there with the best. Their revolvers have been excellent at times. But not all of them are great. I've seen some with terrible problems. But that was quite a while back.

clem
August 5, 2012, 02:45 AM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b213/clemdoggie/TaurusLemon.jpg

CZ223
August 5, 2012, 09:42 AM
The bashing has already begun. Is Taurus better than the rest, surely not at all things but they do produce some very reliable guns. They also have their clunkers. I have two of their duo-tone 1911s and they are great guns. If I ever find myself wanting a Berreta 92/96, I will probably buy the Taurus because of their excellent reputation. Some of their revolvers have also impressed me, while others have not. Recent production guns seem sloppy and even gritty. I saw their polymer revolver yesterday, like the Ruger and S&W, and would never buy one. It was so sloppy it wasn't funny. At the same time I held a used 357, their version of the S&W 66, and it was tighter than the new S&W's.

I have always found it funny that so many people will swear by one brand and swear at so many others. The same guy who thinks Taurus is lousy will swear by Kel-Tec. The guy who curses Glocks will stand behind Hi-Point all day long. Kimber bashers will swear by their Rock Islands and Norincos. The truth is that all these companies have their virtues and their faults. I have had problems with my Kimbers, 1 out of 5 had a minor problem, but that doesn't mean they don't make a good gun, they do. I like the Rock Islands that I have, they are good guns for the money. I love my Taurus 1911s, in my opinion they are the best value in an out of the box 1911. Yes, I have owned Springfields and Colts and I stand by my opinion.
I have never owned a Kel-tec but probably will eventually though I think they are pretty crude. I bought 2 LCPs over their 380 and an LC-9 instead of their gun for this very reason. I doubt that I will ever own a Hi-point just because they are ugly and clunky. Their 380 is bigger than a lot of 45's out there. They do have a reputation for being reliable and I will not take that away from them,I just don't ever see myself owning one.

clem
August 5, 2012, 12:26 PM
I have four Taurus weapons. My first three are exceptional weapons. The last one, bought NEW, is a piece of junk. It was sent back to Taurus for repairs, which they didn't do.
I wrote a letter to Taurus, which they didn't bother to respond to.

If there were no guns but Taurus, I'd chose a rock.

BSA1
August 6, 2012, 10:14 AM
Don't listen to anti-Taurus propaganda. An ongoing issue of "that there pistol ain't 'Merican, boy!"

Taurus has consistently been improving their product and it is my understanding the new
President Mark Kresser is committed to improving customer service. Taurus has beat U.S. gunmakers to the market with innovative products like the Judge revolver and the Ranchhand. The Judge has proven so popular the S&W has been "Johnny Come Lately" with the Governor.

Complain about a problem with a Taurus and you will get a dozen or more replies trashing the company and declaring the gun to be a piece of crap.

On the other hand Smith & Wesson is regularly turning out defective guns that either don't work out of box or break shortly after use. (Merely do a web search). Post the same complaint about a S&W and the replies will all be supportive of S&W reassuring the O.P. that S&W builds wonderful products, the gun he is having is rare and S&W will repair the gun right the first time.

skoro
August 6, 2012, 01:48 PM
uh...

no

Jeremiah10:23
August 6, 2012, 02:00 PM
My son has a PT92AFS that is is plain as can be but it is as reliable as any gun I have ever shot. I am not one of those that "must" have a particular brand but I wouldn't mind finding another one at the same deal we bought his at.

Warp
August 6, 2012, 02:13 PM
I won't be buying anything from Taurus, and I suggest the other people not do so either, if they ask me.

A revolver from them would seem better than a semi auto, though.

mgmorden
August 6, 2012, 03:40 PM
The Tauruses that I've handled seemed to have behaved acceptably (and I wouldn't hesitate to buy one), but better is a strong word.

Kinda like comparing a Hyundai to a Toyota. Nothing wrong with the Hyundai. Heck I DRIVE a Hyundai. They work. But would I ever claim them to be "better" than most other brands? Never. The same applies to Taurus. It'll do what you need it to but I wouldn't compare it to S&W or Glock.

threefortyduster
August 6, 2012, 08:24 PM
I don't care what anyone says, I've never had an issue with Taurus nor has anyone I know. I love mine and would recommend them for anyone who is interested in value and wants a very wide selection of barrel lengths/style of gun/caliber. It is very hard to beat Taurus when it comes to their selection.

burk
August 6, 2012, 09:23 PM
No Gun company makes "perfect trouble free" guns. Some are noticeably better than others but none are perfect. Some have had some consistent problems with certain models, or platforms. Some are good light duty guns, but not made to handle thousands of rounds of range time. I work at the counter part time at a large outdoor sporting goods store (chain). Most of the other workers are also gun nuts, one is an ex-cop. A couple are ex military.

We all have one thing in common, none of us will recommend Taurus if your usage of the gun could put your life on the line. We have seen every model of Taurus returned including revolvers and single shot rifles. Despite the fact that we don't sell many (they probably aren't in our top five in sales by brand), we get more Taurus send back to the factory returns than all other brands combined. I've been there about a year and I've seen four Judges frozen with ammo still in the cylinder. I've seen two single shot rifles returned (one had been sent back to Taurus twice and still had light primer strikes). I've seen cracked frames on numerous .380's. Sorry if you can't get revolver timing and single shot rifles right, find another business.

I'm not an low end import basher, I think Bersa, Mossberg imports, American Tactical, and Stoeger make some decent weapons. But I can't in good conscious recommend a Taurus for self defense. And yep I know some people buy them and never have a problem. But in self defense, I want my gun to boom when I go click. With Taurus I simply don't like my odds.

LawScholar
August 6, 2012, 09:33 PM
Why is it automatically called "bashing" if you have a negative opinion about Taurus? After my family had 3 Tauri, all different models, purchased years apart all literally become bricks (broken pieces, major jams, locked up cylinder - two autos, one wheel gun) after a low round count, I feel like I have a right to express a negative opinion without being immediately discounted as a basher.

It has NOTHING to do with it bring a non-U.S. gun for me. Beretta is my favorite handgun brand.

Others might like Taurus. That's a legit opinion and I won't throw around "fanboy" like "basher" has been used. I would not take one for free, unless it was to immediately turn around and sell it. YMMV. Any Taurus gun you are thinking about getting, take the extra few weeks and spend another $50-100 on a brand without a perpetual question mark by it.

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