Colt AR-15 SP1


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parsimonious_instead
August 2, 2012, 12:28 AM
OK.... I'm in love... just put a deposit down on my first AR-15. It's a Colt SP1, early 1970s vintage. His price to me: $850 and looks like in very good shape. I actually like the fact that it has a fixed stock, non-removable carry handle, and no rail system. And since it was manufactured well before 1994, everything about it qualifies as "pre-ban" in my state.
I also like the lack of a magazine fence and forward assist.
Anyone else have an SP1? Any particular issues or "gotchas" with that particular model? I expect to have it paid off and shooting it by mid-Sept or sooner (hopefully).

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basicblur
August 2, 2012, 01:01 AM
Anyone else have an SP1?
Yup - I've got one I've had since approx 1980? Don't remember what I paid - just saw it in a shop and walked out with it.

Can't help you with any problems etc, as I don't have that many rounds through it, but no problems.

I also have two RRAs (M4 style) and another Colt LE6920 - all three of them sound 'tight' when you shoot 'em - the old SP-1 has a definite sproing to it, but it's 'bout as accurate (if not more) as the others. I also have an old Colt 3x scope on it.

Dr.Rob
August 2, 2012, 01:02 AM
I am not sure but that may be a 1/12 barrel. That means you aren't 'limited' to 55gr ammo.. but it will shoot that with better accuracy than the 69+ stuff.

Welding Rod
August 2, 2012, 01:49 AM
Sweet! I have always wanted one of those.

wriggly
August 2, 2012, 02:53 AM
I had an SP1 CAR 15 purchased it in 1979 and had the colt 3 power scope on it, and a bunch of Sterling 40 round magazines. I paid around $300 for it back then. Wish I still had it.

OcelotZ3
August 2, 2012, 03:48 AM
I've got one and it definitely sproings as someone else mentioned. Also the Colt 3x scope (which is actually worth a bit of money on its own these days).

I think mine is from '67.

Reloadron
August 2, 2012, 06:21 AM
My brother is shopping for one, he just mentioned it to me last night. He has this thing about the original look and feel of those early rifles. They are sweet! :)

Ron

Dreamliner787
August 2, 2012, 10:00 AM
One of my biggest regret was selling mine back in college, wish I would have kept it.

mokin
August 2, 2012, 11:20 AM
I bought one of those in 1987, used, for $400.00. It seemed like it was better put together than the M-16A2 I was issued around the same time. The SP-1 was a really fun rifle. I sold it just befor the ban expired for about twice what I paid for it. Great rifle, no issues. Have fun with it.

1KPerDay
August 2, 2012, 07:33 PM
My favorite AR. Good price. :cool:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/1KPerDay/Guns/0ec47049.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/1KPerDay/Guns/8ab51098.jpg

VA27
August 2, 2012, 08:03 PM
1980 SP1 carbine here. The only 'gotcha' with the SP is shooting left-handed will get you hot brass bouncing off your teeth.

X-Rap
August 2, 2012, 08:12 PM
Had one and traded it for a M1A after the ban sunset. Shot fine but I am not a nostalgia guy regarding AR's so I just bought a new lower for the carbine upper that the SP1 was carrying. The SP1 does command some extra money in the right market.

awgrizzly
August 3, 2012, 01:19 AM
Depending on condition the collector value of that SP1 could be double what you're paying for it.

dark.zero.x
August 3, 2012, 06:21 AM
I have a mint 1971, with the scope and everything.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/sarkardarkstar/2012-04-12021148.jpg
Purdy.

Rollis R. Karvellis
August 3, 2012, 08:05 AM
The photo's were taken earlier this year of a friend's collection, before being broken up to be sold.

1KPerDay
August 3, 2012, 11:14 PM
1980 SP1 carbine here. The only 'gotcha' with the SP is shooting left-handed will get you hot brass bouncing off your teeth.
Not in my case... never had a problem and I shoot lefty.

357_
August 4, 2012, 10:57 AM
I love my sp1, got a 1964 and it's my favorite rifle to shoot, I LOVE that sproing sound it makes!

http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af296/wfrecker85/1internet.jpg

http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af296/wfrecker85/7.jpg

CZguy
August 4, 2012, 01:40 PM
I'm turning green with envy over the nice rifles in this thread. I've wanted one for years, but they seem to be selling for about double what they are worth.

VA27
August 4, 2012, 04:18 PM
Must have been a fluke. I let a lefty shoot it and watched the brass hit him in the mouth.

Rollis R. Karvellis
August 4, 2012, 10:07 PM
I, had a part's gun that was built on a SP1 lower. It never flung any brass into my teeth. Under the right eye on the other hand was a diffrent storie.
That one went down the road pretty quikly.

awgrizzly
August 5, 2012, 02:22 AM
Oh man, some nice SPs there guys, thanks. I gots one too. =o)

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/Grizzlyguy/ColtSP-1A.jpg

Anyone want to sell one of those original scopes?

1KPerDay
August 5, 2012, 11:27 AM
Must have been a fluke. I let a lefty shoot it and watched the brass hit him in the mouth.
I don't think it was a fluke... some do it, some don't. Luckily mine doesn't.

Rollis R. Karvellis
August 5, 2012, 12:10 PM
My parts gun would fling China Sports brass into my face. My buddy's Scoped example would throw Winchester white box up against my muff's, but L.C. would clear my fat head. So it is just a matter of brand, and probly the amount of wear the rifle has on it.

pesty3782
August 5, 2012, 04:20 PM
I bought mine in the early 80's and still have it. I have never had any issues with the carbine at all..that is when i get to shoot it...Wife steals it when we go shooting along with my/her's high power

Tony P.

parsimonious_instead
August 5, 2012, 04:52 PM
I thank everyone for their replies and input. Can't wait to pick mine up and give it a try! :)

parsimonious_instead
August 18, 2012, 11:32 AM
Just picked it up... must have been stored upright in a closet, barrel-up, because there were deposits of dust in these little nooks and crannies around the carry handle and front sight tower. Cleaned those up with cotton swabs and Hoppes#9. Then wiped everything down with a felt cloth spritzed lightly with CLP. CLP'd the internals and ran patches thru the barrel. Dry-cycled some dummy .223 rounds.
Taking her to the range tomorrow.
Serial#check on the Internet shows a manufacture date of 1974.
As I left the gun store, I got all sorts of compliments, pats on the back and high-fives from the other shop patrons...

I'm taking her shooting tomorrow...

Reloadron
August 18, 2012, 01:10 PM
Enjoy it. My brother got his last weekend in Columbus, Ohio finally. The seller settled for $1,200 and it was minty and a 1971. Congratulations again and enjoy a classic rifle.

Ron

parsimonious_instead
August 20, 2012, 08:43 AM
Enjoy it. My brother got his last weekend in Columbus, Ohio finally. The seller settled for $1,200 and it was minty and a 1971. Congratulations again and enjoy a classic rifle.

Ron


Well, I shot it yesterday. Worked pretty well, although I think I need to adjust the sights - I think it's zeroed for 200 yards, since I was hitting or getting very close to manhole covers and other bits of scrap steel set out on the berm, while I had very little idea where I was putting rounds on paper at 100 yards.
Unfortunately, at this particular range you are only allowed to load one round at a time. I politely asked for a "brief exception" and loaded and shot five at the beginning of my range session - the rifle fired all five flawlessly.

bannockburn
August 20, 2012, 02:27 PM
I bought mine in the late '70's brand new for less than $300. Never any problems with it and can still do accurate work with it out to 100 yards with the iron sights. Does very well with Black Hills 55 grain Blue Box.

CZguy
August 20, 2012, 11:35 PM
I've been looking for a SP1 for years, but everyone that I find has a price tag of $1500.00 or so.

I'm of the opinion that they are worth between $800.00 and $1000.00 depending on condition.

What do you guys think?

Reloadron
August 21, 2012, 05:52 AM
Currently, at least around here in Ohio, $1,500 is the going rate. My brother lucked into a nice clean one for $1,200. I figure any given gun is worth what someone who wants it is willing to pay for it. The demand driving the price.

Ron

parsimonious_instead
August 21, 2012, 08:13 AM
I lucked out big-time, then, paying $850 for mine. I'm hoping to get it to a range with a decent distance that doesn't have silly rules about loading one round at a time...

wojownik
August 22, 2012, 01:37 AM
Yes, you did very well with that price. Now, please post some pictures of your SP-1, won't you? :D

awgrizzly
August 22, 2012, 01:44 AM
I've been looking for a SP1 for years, but everyone that I find has a price tag of $1500.00 or so.

I'm of the opinion that they are worth between $800.00 and $1000.00 depending on condition.

What do you guys think?
I've seen SP1 lower receivers sell for that price. The going value for those can reach or exceed a couple grand. These are valued for their historic value, not for shooting. Try buying an original Armalite. =o)

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