Picked a Glock up in my hand today...


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FireInCairo
August 2, 2012, 09:44 PM
... and I put it right back down. That's just about the most uncomfortable gun I've ever held. It could be because my hands aren't that big. Just too blocky and no real ergonomics to speak of. Kinda like if you built a gun for a machine to hold. :uhoh:

Anyone else feel that way about Glocks?

Anyhow, the M&P I bought is really comfy. I think S&W took the Glock idea and did it one better ergonomically.

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rcmodel
August 2, 2012, 09:47 PM
Glocks are souless machines.

They left every bit of soul out, on purpose.

rc

Inebriated
August 2, 2012, 09:48 PM
I think Glocks feel perfect. A lot of others don't. What model/generation was it?

And no offense, but this has been discussed to death.

rjrivero
August 2, 2012, 09:51 PM
I don't know if I can be classified a "Glock Fanboy" or not, but I do have my fair share of them.

The thing I appreciate the most are the high capacity 33 round mags and the fact that so many pcc's use the Glock Magazines.

The gun shoots strait, low bore axis, and reliable. I don't care how asthetically pleasing it may or may not be. I also don't care for arguing "comfort" when it comes to a pistol. The fact that you can strip it down to all it's component parts with a single punch is pretty convenient as well. (Not just a field strip, but complete tear down.)

There are prettier guns out there for sure. One has to admit there are lots of up-side to Glock's design.

wrench
August 2, 2012, 10:06 PM
I used to think that Glocks were so ugly, they didn't shoot bullets, they repelled them.:scrutiny:
Then I bought one, and another, and.....another. Then one more.
Now I love them, and think they're great guns, and good looking as well.
But, I also think eelpout have a sensuous beauty, so what do I know:evil:

Texan Scott
August 2, 2012, 10:13 PM
I had my soul surgically removed to make room for extra sarcasm... that worked out REAL well, too... :rolleyes:
The Glock still doesn't fit my hands, and my hands are HUGE... just not beefy.
The grip frame is molded that way; it is what it is. It works for some people, others not so much. Like a Puerto Rican girl I dated a LONG time ago... it isn't that she wasn't 'perfect' (insert more sarcasm) or that I wasn't 'man enough' (sarcasm)... we just didn't 'fit'.
FWIW, at least with a good revolver you can change the grips to suit yourself.

LeonCarr
August 2, 2012, 10:16 PM
I carry one every day. They work for me and they fit me.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

FMF Doc
August 2, 2012, 10:17 PM
Glocks are souless machines.

They left every bit of soul out, on purpose.

rc


Glocks are soulless machines, and that is just fine. Their purpose is to kill, and they do it very well. If you ever need to use it for its intended purpose, you will likely never see it again from the evidence locker at the police station. If it had a soul, you might miss it. But, because it is a glock, you can rest assured that you can go out the next day, buy another one, and have another soulless machine that will perform as flawlessly as the one that saved you life the day before. The beauty of a glock is in its simplicity.

CPshooter
August 2, 2012, 10:18 PM
Which model did you handle? Keep in mind that not all Glocks are created equal. The backstrap contour and grip width very quite a bit from model to model. To me, the only Glock that truly feels ergonomically pleasant to hold is the baby 26/27/33. I can also work with a 19/23, but any of the other Glocks just feel like crap in my hand. I fondled a 21sf a few years back and I remember liking it for the brief moment it was in my hand. That might be the only other Glock that feels good to me, but I'd have to try it again to be sure. I guess what I'm getting at here is that you shouldn't form a general opinion on all Glocks just because one particular model didn't feel good to you. Try one from every size category in the smaller 9mm/.40/.357 platform and also the larger .45/10mm platform. I bet you'll find one that fits you well...unless you have super small hands. In that case, Glock is not your gun and never will be without serious grip modifications.

FireInCairo
August 2, 2012, 10:23 PM
It was a 17 and it was real plain handled, so I'm going to assume it was a gen 1?

Inebriated
August 2, 2012, 10:24 PM
Did it have finger grooves?

FireInCairo
August 2, 2012, 10:25 PM
I don't know if I can be classified a "Glock Fanboy" or not, but I do have my fair share of them.

The thing I appreciate the most are the high capacity 33 round mags and the fact that so many pcc's use the Glock Magazines.

The gun shoots strait, low bore axis, and reliable. I don't care how asthetically pleasing it may or may not be. I also don't care for arguing "comfort" when it comes to a pistol. The fact that you can strip it down to all it's component parts with a single punch is pretty convenient as well. (Not just a field strip, but complete tear down.)

There are prettier guns out there for sure. One has to admit there are lots of up-side to Glock's design.
I agree it's got a great reputation for a reason. I really wanted to like how it felt in my hand.

No finger grooves.

Inebriated
August 2, 2012, 10:30 PM
Gen 1 (http://www.pensacolafishingforum.com/attachments/f68/25323d1309399801t-wts-glock-17-gen-1-9mm-dsc_7899-jpg)

or

Gen 2 (http://images.wikia.com/deadliestwarrior/images/1/16/Glock19_2ndGen.jpg)


Also, don't forget that the Gen 4 has a smaller grip circumference than any of the others, so maybe that's worth trying?

FireInCairo
August 2, 2012, 10:35 PM
It was a Gen 1, I'm pretty sure.

Thanks on the tip on the Gen4's. I would like to try one with a smaller grip.

Inebriated
August 2, 2012, 10:40 PM
Interesting, I've been looking around a little for a Gen 1 17.

And no problem, the Gen 4 shaved 2mm off the back. Doesn't sound like much, but there's a world of difference. Not as much "hump" in the grip, and of course the smaller circumference.

I like the original Glock grip, but the Gen 4 seems to actually be an attempt at ergonomics.

JROC
August 2, 2012, 10:55 PM
I would rather own a Glock than a Sig, XD, M&P, HK, other pretty much any other pistol if I could only chose one. They work great at their intended purpose, and IMO take a back seat to no other gun for what Glock designed them to do. Sure it might not feel as expensive as this gun or that gun that does in fact cost a lot more, but it just works exceptionally well.

Complaining about the way the Glock feels and it's grip angle is in most cases just an excuse to hate on a gun that you most likely just decided for whatever reason you are going to hold a bias against. That's like me saying "I can't drive a low seated Fbody because I'm use to sitting tall in a Mustang." OP I feel that you probably went looking at a new handgun already decided that you dislike Glocks, and tried to convince yourself that it's a poor choice of handgun because you don't want to like them, and are trying to justify your choice, and make yourself feel better about your M&P.(which I think is a fine pistol BTW) Still I can pick up my sights and acquire my target on my Glock faster than I can my 1911, and pretty much just as fast as I can my CZ75 which is an excellent, and natural pointer.

I will admit that a Glock does feel different in hand than other pistols do though..... But wait a second my 1911 feels different than my CZ, and my CZ feels different than a Sig, and a Sig feels different than a FN, and so on a so forth because they are in fact different guns. A Glock is very easy to get use to, and comfortable with, and will quickly start feeling more normal in hand than another gun that you're not use to.

A Glock feels no more souless than any other gun which means it feels absolutely souless as it is a man made tool which has no soul and will not go to heaven or hell when it dies if it where to ever break. What would you think if someone where to say a Craftsman wrench feels like it has a soul, but a Stanley wrench feels souless?

WinThePennant
August 2, 2012, 10:56 PM
Glock didn't get the grip right until the Gen 4.

Get outta here with the "blocky" feeling stuff. Get your hands around a Gen 4.

Like you, I didn't like the Glock grip until they slightly reduced the grip with the Gen 4. I'll be damned if my Glocks arent', well, perfect (for me).

Inebriated
August 2, 2012, 11:07 PM
Complaining about the way the Glock feels and it's grip angle is in most cases just an excuse to hate on a gun that you most likely just decided for whatever reason you are going to hold a bias against.

I disagree completely that complaining about grip angle is just an excuse. If I'm spending my money, I am not going to settle and force myself to like something, when there are so many other options that, for all intents and purposes, do the exact same thing.

JROC
August 2, 2012, 11:29 PM
^ You can agree or disagree all you want to. If you have a problem with a Glocks grip angle to the point that you feel you can't use the weapon then that's not the guns fault. Plenty of people use Glock successfully. I don't just own a Glock, but my Glock feels every bit as natural and effective in my hand as my Colt 1911.

If you're someone who picks up a Glock 1 or 2 times and thinks it feels different than most other pistols, and concludes that it's obviously at fault and a poor design then you have the problem. If you can shoot a revolver then a Glocks grip angle is nothing when comparing a different feel to other semi-auto's.

I can pick up any modern name brand pistol and feel comfortable, and manage to shoot it just fine, and I guarentee that 99% of all the people who want to complain about Glocks "SLIGHTLY" steeper grip angle than most other pistols can do the same thing, and be perfectly comfortable with a Glock if they would just give it a chance, but most don't want to. I've seen a ton of Gl;ock hate on the IE, and in person, and it's not really anything the gun has done, it just people choosing that they don't want to like it, and many of these people have 0 experience even holding them, and then when they do pick one up they want to complain that they feel like crap.

Now you might like a XD or CZ grip angle a little better. I don't give a flying F-Bomb. But that sure doesn't mean a Glocks grip should offend you, unless you're the one that sucks. Do you only own one gun? Do you not have a preference of which one of your handguns feels better in hand? Does one gun feeling a little more comfortable to you make other guns feel like bad pistols that you can't use effectively.

If a Glock owner makes a thread saying, "I picked up a XD/M&P/Sig/etc and thought it felt like crap because it's trigger sucked, or it's high bore axis was wierd," or whatever else they get flamed for it and accused of being stupid Glock fanboy, but people always want to bust on Glocks, and it's just pointless Glock hate, and people trying to make themselves feel better about their guns as they are envious of a Glock rep, and how many perceived them to be the best pistols out there. It's ridiculous how many good guns are on the market. If you like a XD then buy an XD, If you like a Sig buy a Sig, if you like a Glock then buy a Glock. If you didn't go with the Glock don't make a thread knocking it because it seems to me that it's just you trying to justify your new gun because you actually really deep down think the Glock is the better gun even if you like your gun better. I'm not saying it is or isn't, but that's what it looks like you're doing to me.

Inebriated
August 2, 2012, 11:43 PM
I don't have a problem with Glock. I prefer Glock to any other pistol for almost every thing.

So don't try to sell me on it. All I'm saying that it's silly to think someone who doesn't want to try a Glock is missing out, or at a disadvantage, simply because they don't want to try it.

Heck, I wish more people would reject them... I'm having a hard time finding a Gen 4 20 :D

Certaindeaf
August 2, 2012, 11:45 PM
There's a tribe in Papua New Guinea that believes that the dry firing of a Glock will steal their soul. True story.

Texan Scott
August 2, 2012, 11:54 PM
possibly the shape and plastic have them mistaking it for a camera... those steal souls, actually.

The smiling swordsman
August 2, 2012, 11:57 PM
I am one of those people who like the way a Glock feels. They just fit my giant hands. I don't own one yet but plan to get one soon.

Snag
August 3, 2012, 12:03 AM
Just too blocky and no real ergonomics to speak of. Kinda like if you built a gun for a machine to hold.

Anyone else feel that way about Glocks?

Yes.

X-Rap
August 3, 2012, 12:13 AM
There's a tribe in Papua New Guinea that believes that the dry firing of a Glock will steal their soul. True story.
__________________

That's the best one I've heard in a while.:)

murf
August 3, 2012, 12:17 AM
a steel soul in a plastic body.

and a heart of lead!

murf

hAkron
August 3, 2012, 12:34 AM
I love my Glock, but it is a bit stiff and emotionless...like the Mr Spock of my gun collection.

Hey...Spock -- Glock...maybe we're onto something here

JROC
August 3, 2012, 12:35 AM
I'm having a hard time finding a Gen 4 20

I understand completely. :cool:

Glock needs to get on the ball with the Gen 4 10mm's.

jr_roosa
August 3, 2012, 12:44 AM
I don't like Glocks that much either, but it's mainly aesthetic. I use them from time to time for work/training stuff, mainly because the simunition adapter for a 1911 costs as much as an entry level 1911, and they seem to work well for me. For SD stuff they are plenty accurate and reliable, and I shoot them just fine. I have to really focus on trigger pull and sight picture, though. I wouldn't want to take one to a bullseye match.

I'd never buy one unless there was some reason that I couldn't use a 1911 for something and I couldn't get a loaner Glock.

I definitely agree about the soulless thing. It's an effective and inexpensive tool. I have about the same emotion about buying a Glock as I would about buying a shovel. I would also have about the same emotion about losing it: dang, I gotta buy a new shovel now. A royal blue custom Colt 1911? Want!!! NEED!!!!

-J.

TestPilot
August 3, 2012, 12:46 AM
Ergonomics works different for each individual.

However, compared to more contemporary designes such as M&P, P30, PPQ, etc., it is not as refined. For a gun that appeared nearly 30 years ago, it was not bad for the 1980's standards.

JoeMal
August 3, 2012, 12:59 AM
I carry one every day. They work for me and they fit me.
This

Love them or hate them

Bikewer
August 3, 2012, 01:13 AM
Same here. Been carrying the M23 for almost 20 years. I have often said I couldn't ask for a better combat pistol.

rjrivero
August 3, 2012, 01:15 AM
There's a tribe in Papua New Guinea that believes that the dry firing of a Glock will steal their soul. True story.

:what:

Prince Yamato
August 3, 2012, 01:33 AM
The more I shoot my Glocks, the smaller the grip feels.

tarosean
August 3, 2012, 01:52 AM
I caved soon after I bought my first poly pistol.... The grip angle didnt bother me.... However, I was the proud owner, of what had to be Glocks only lemon produced since the dawn of the internet. (G17 NIB G3) it was literally worse than a Taurus .38sp that Light stikes/FTF every couple rounds, that I inherited. Less than 100rds of PDX1's I sold it.

GLOOB
August 3, 2012, 05:47 AM
I, too, hated the way the Glock 17 felt, first time I picked it up. I also thought it was ugly, to boot. I only rented it to see what all the fuss was about.

But lucky for me, I actually shot it. I left with a surprising level of appreciation for the ergonomics. It was years later when I actually took my first Glock home. Even though my first and only handgun was a 1911 for many years, I now prefer ALL of my Glocks' ergos to any 1911.

The more I shoot my Glocks, the smaller the grip feels.
This! The other guns start to feel too thin!

On the flip side, the first time I picked up a Beretta 92F, it felt great. But while actually shooting, I didn't like the grip.

777TRUTH
August 3, 2012, 05:52 AM
I agree, they are not as good in my hands as other platforms.

But to each their own.

Jed Carter
August 3, 2012, 06:10 AM
Over the years I handled the different generations of Glock pistols, based on the feel,I never wanted one. That was until I went to a pistol club intro to IDPA and USPSA class. there I was given a G17 to shoot. Glocks work a lot better than they look, or feel. 5 Glocks later, only my 1911s out number them, SIGs used to but I even traded a P226 for a Glock G35. Thought I would miss the SIG... can't say I do, or the CZ PCR I traded for a G19, may trade my SIG P232 two tone for a G20 SF they have at Bud's, hmmm.

ku4hx
August 3, 2012, 06:32 AM
I think they feel great. I've never met a Glock [model] I didn't like or eventually own.

coalman
August 3, 2012, 06:59 AM
Picked a Glock up in my hand today... and I put it right back down. That's just about the most uncomfortable gun I've ever held. It could be because my hands aren't that big. Just too blocky and no real ergonomics to speak of. Kinda like if you built a gun for a machine to hold. Anyone else feel that way about Glocks? Anyhow, the M&P I bought is really comfy. I think S&W took the Glock idea and did it one better ergonomically.

Your M&P is the best handgun ever made. Not the M&P line mind you, your specific M&P. It beats Glock hands-down. There... better?

OARNGESI
August 3, 2012, 07:01 AM
if you pick up a gun and dont like the feel just move on. maybe you will like then gen 5 glocks when they comeout

skt239
August 3, 2012, 08:00 AM
Other than the thickness, I have no problem with the grips. They usually fit my hand fine, except for the full size .45 (22?) which I found to be a bit to thick.

threefortyduster
August 3, 2012, 08:17 AM
I've yet to find a glock that I could hold comfortably. Not even the Gen 4s. Maybe if I tried a slim frame it would be different, but they all just feel like a bar of soap in my hand to me.

olderguns
August 3, 2012, 08:49 AM
I've Shot Glocks since the mid 80s and never had a problem with the grip, come to think of it, I can't remember anyone crying about the size of them until the internet experts started claiming they are ( Bricks or 2x4s or Blocks ).
and can't believe so Many men today can have such tiny little Girly hands that they can't reach around the guns grip,, hopefully they never find themselfs with nothing but a glock or they 'll have to just throw it at the attacker then run away Crying...

Sam1911
August 3, 2012, 09:00 AM
As this is heading into casting rude comments at each other, I guess we're done.

Seems I've heard the matter discussed before...

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