Colt Trooper MK III


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madwell
August 4, 2012, 01:04 PM
Just got my first colt and like the title says it's a Colt Trooper MK III with a 6" barrel. Can't wait to get out and shoot this beast. I paid 200 bucks for it with two sets of grips and two speed loaders no box or papers.

Sorry no pictures.

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Jaymo
August 4, 2012, 01:13 PM
You stole it. ;)

madwell
August 4, 2012, 01:18 PM
Thanks Jaymo I was pretty happy with the deal. It does show a little wear by the muzzle but it doesn't bug me I bought it to be a shooter.

Walkalong
August 4, 2012, 01:29 PM
That is a screaming deal on a great gun. Congrats. I love mine. I was so impressed with mine in fact, I bought another one.

ColtPythonElite
August 4, 2012, 05:42 PM
Great deal on a stout gun.

ghitch75
August 4, 2012, 05:54 PM
great deal!!!...i just pick up a 2" Lawman for 300 and i thought i got a good deal:(

dfariswheel
August 4, 2012, 06:21 PM
If you dry fire these later Colt's, always use snap caps to protect the firing pin.
The pin "can" break and that requires a trip back to Colt for replacement.
A special press device is needed to press the old pin out and a new one in to prevent damaging the frame.

SlamFire1
August 4, 2012, 06:24 PM
$200.00! :what: I paid a lot more for mine!

Why can't I get on deals like this :cuss:


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skidder
August 4, 2012, 07:15 PM
You did good. I thought I got a good deal on my Trooper 357 for $380 :(

You knocked it out of the park!

Ditchtiger
August 4, 2012, 07:22 PM
I paid $175 for mine with a 4" barrel.:D
But that was 20 years ago.

madwell
August 4, 2012, 10:32 PM
Thanks all I knew it was a good deal thats why I jumped on it. I have been lucky this summer on revolvers I also got a 2.5" model 19 not long ago for under 400. I'm going to take the trooper, the model 19, and the speed six to the range on monday and do a side by side comparison.

rswartsell
August 4, 2012, 10:42 PM
Skidder,

You did get a good deal on yours, probably at least the equal of the score madwell got. The key difference is yours is "pre Mk III". Yours is hand fitted, with the Mk III series Colt re-racked the balls entirely and re-engineered the entire action with an eye toward manufacturing cost reduction. This did not produce "junk" just that to collectors (and discerning shooters) the value of the pre Mk III's is higher and they pay as such for them. I have owned 3 of the Mk III's, a 4" Trooper Mk III, a 6 " and a 2" Lawman Mk III and am sold on them. Madwell paid less than I ever did.

The Trooper you bought is a different animal entirely. With the hand fitting and all forged parts it is in no-ones opinion the same or inferior, to most superior. They are also getting more scarce than the Mk III's.

It isn't the same action just not hand fitted, it is different entirely and not to be seen again. Neither will the Mk III's come to think of it.

madwell
August 4, 2012, 10:59 PM
dfariswheel,

I have read about the firing pin breaking on other forums how common is this? I won't be dry firing this gun with out snap caps thanks for the heads up.

rswartsell
August 4, 2012, 11:14 PM
dfariswheel is undoubtedly more qualified than I, but IMHO breakage from dry firing in this Colt is no more likely than any other revolver with a frame mounted pin. Just that the consequences of doing so are tougher, with Colt DA's out of production and this particular design requiring specialized equipment and no 'smiths interested (or really able) to make the investment outside the Colt factory.

Snap caps are never a bad idea. Just more significant with frame mounted pin Colt models for the reasons stated. I suggest A-Zoom, while a touch more expensive they are built to last and every other that I have seen are "temporaries" that will soon disintegrate with use. Some use fired cases as snap caps but I doubt the utility of these if the pin falls into the same pocket previously produced and I doubt the resilience of the primer material for repeated strikes even if it doesn't.

skidder
August 5, 2012, 07:47 PM
Skidder,

You did get a good deal on yours, probably at least the equal of the score madwell got. The key difference is yours is "pre Mk III". Yours is hand fitted, with the Mk III series Colt re-racked the balls entirely and re-engineered the entire action with an eye toward manufacturing cost reduction. This did not produce "junk" just that to collectors (and discerning shooters) the value of the pre Mk III's is higher and they pay as such for them. I have owned 3 of the Mk III's, a 4" Trooper Mk III, a 6 " and a 2" Lawman Mk III and am sold on them. Madwell paid less than I ever did.

The Trooper you bought is a different animal entirely. With the hand fitting and all forged parts it is in no-ones opinion the same or inferior, to most superior. They are also getting more scarce than the Mk III's.

It isn't the same action just not hand fitted, it is different entirely and not to be seen again. Neither will the Mk III's come to think of it.

Thanks bud.
I'm still learning about these Colts. I've always had Rugers and Smiths till recently. They sure are fun to shoot. :)

dfariswheel
August 5, 2012, 08:35 PM
For reasons not clear, there does seem to be more of a problem with the Mark III and later Colt's suffering broken firing pins.
The suspicion is that it's possible some batches of firing pins may have not been heat treated correctly.

Whatever the cause, I did see more broken Mark III and later Colt firing pins than in the "I" frames like the Python, Trooper, and 357.

rswartsell
August 6, 2012, 11:51 PM
To those that do not already know this;

dfariswheel is the man when it comes to Colt revolvers, at least on this board.

For he who has ears to hear, let him listen.

2DREZQ
August 7, 2012, 02:06 AM
The proverbial '66 'Vette in the barn...

I never find deals like this anymore...

ColtPythonElite
August 7, 2012, 02:54 AM
There a few NIB ones out there....

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=169557&stc=1&d=1344322444

WayBeau
August 29, 2012, 09:27 AM
Not trying to highjack this thread, but what value would you all put on a Colt Trooper III that is in 'excellent' condition? I'm in talks with a guy who wants to trade me his for a shotgun I have and I'm just wondering.

Thanks.

Guillermo
August 29, 2012, 10:10 AM
$450 -550 is going rate around here

22-rimfire
August 29, 2012, 12:46 PM
You see higher prices than $450-$550. But for me, I would not be interested in a NIB one above $550 in 357 mag unless is was nickel. The 22's are different in terms of pricing. One local gunshop had a NIB 357 blue Trooper Mark III for about $1000. Don't know if they ever sold that one or not at that kind of price.

ColtPythonElite
August 29, 2012, 09:19 PM
I will take any and every NIB one that comes along priced under $650.

788Ham
August 30, 2012, 12:19 AM
SlamFire1, thats sure a nice looker, I need to pay more attention at the upcoming GS's, see if I can scrounge one up, even if it was 1/2 as nice as yours!

22-rimfire
August 30, 2012, 11:36 AM
The price on Trooper Mark III's were previously fairly stagnant, but in the last couple of years they are moving up like most Colt revolvers. Honestly, I would seriously consider a NIB 357 version at $650 these days.

nosreme
August 30, 2012, 03:52 PM
LGS here has a consigned 4" Trooper Mk III...for $850. $200 is phenomenal.

Checkman
August 30, 2012, 04:36 PM
I picked up this Lawman 2" snubbie in March of 2010. At the time it was priced at $550.00. I traded a Luger and a GP100 for it. It was worth the trade.


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Guillermo
August 30, 2012, 05:17 PM
nice gun checkman

solidsnake
August 30, 2012, 05:31 PM
I got my 4" MKIII Trooper for $500 cash, no tax. I love the single action on that gun so much. It's a keeper

Checkman
August 31, 2012, 11:26 AM
It really wasn't that long ago that the MK III revolvers were not wanted by many and priced accordingly. Those days are either done or ending rapidly.

rswartsell
August 31, 2012, 08:32 PM
That 2" Lawman is a tank in the snubbie world. Never saw it's like for a stable platform to shoot hot .357 from a "hideout". Too much of a tank for some, the weight and bulk is an order of magnitude from a J-Frame Airweight.

Maybe that's why I love mine. I think this article is where the Mk III really comes into it's own. The service/outdoor configurations take a back seat to none, but that 2" is in a class by itself, hell it created a new class.

Checkman
September 1, 2012, 11:12 AM
I look at the Lawman snubbie as being the mid-20th century equivalent of the old Webley Bulldog revolver.

ColtPythonElite
September 1, 2012, 08:20 PM
I predict the Lawman snub will be one of the next Colts to soar in value. Pythons and King Cobra snubs have blown thru the roof. A man can hardly afford one as a carry piece these days...For those of you shopping for a Lawman snub, be sure to get the factory grips or adjust your paying price down accordingly. The snubs have a unique grip size and stock ones are hard to come by.

Guillermo
September 2, 2012, 10:19 AM
The snubs have a unique grip size and stock ones are hard to come by.

^^^^^^^

a good set of grips will be very hard to get and NOT cheap.

This is great advice

dscampbell
September 2, 2012, 02:25 PM
My favorite revolver of all that I own is a lawman MK III 2" .357. According to the standard catalogue of Colt firearms the MK III series used an early form of MIM Parts called sintered metal. Powdered metal was heated and poured into a form. If you break a firing pin only Colt has the special jig to put in a replacement. The later MK V series did not use sintered metal parts. I always use snap caps for dry firing.

dscampbell
September 2, 2012, 02:34 PM
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PabloJ
September 2, 2012, 06:23 PM
Just got my first colt and like the title says it's a Colt Trooper MK III with a 6" barrel. Can't wait to get out and shoot this beast. I paid 200 bucks for it with two sets of grips and two speed loaders no box or papers.

Sorry no pictures.
If all parts are there and the gun shoots it's almost impossible to go wrong at that price. I mean if you were to hit anvil with the 'Trooper' the anvil would proly crack and the gun would be ok.

OilyPablo
September 2, 2012, 06:42 PM
I have the exact Trooper MK III. They are GREAT shooters and very accurate. I paid $450 for one in mint condition and it came with an unused 4" barrel. I put lighter springs on it, and it has one of the best triggers of all my guns. I shoot .38Special and .357Mag all day long with it. Enjoy!!

Walkalong
September 2, 2012, 07:11 PM
While I love my Trooper Mk III's, if you don't have the cash for a Mk III, keep an eye out for an Astra .357. It is very similar, and mine is very accurate. Balances a lot like the Mk III. I really like mine. Its not going anywhere.

ColtPythonElite
September 2, 2012, 08:32 PM
^^^^^^^

a good set of grips will be very hard to get and NOT cheap.

This is great advice
Yep,....I have a spare set or two and if I let 'em go it will be for most of a Ben Franklin.:D

WVleo
September 2, 2012, 08:41 PM
Hi Bought My Colt Lawman MKIII a couple years back for $500 at the LGS and would not take $700 for it today ! Bought a set of Pachmyr stocks for it the Wife to use and put the original stocks away in the safe. Great revolver .....WVleo

ghitch75
September 2, 2012, 08:59 PM
i don't have 700 in both of these Lawman......have 400 in the Trooper....great guns built like tanks!!!

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