CZ 527 Carbine Range report


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fireman 9731
August 6, 2012, 08:28 PM
Just thought I would post a group to let everyone see how sweet these little rifles are.

Rifle: CZ 527 Carbine chambered in 7.62x39 with a Tasco Bantam 2.5x fixed power scope.
Ammo: TulAmmo 122gr FMJ
Conditions: 80 degrees, no wind, 100 yards. Fired from prone off of a rest.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/s720x720/208954_10100208937854143_238449938_n.jpg

This is the first and only group I shot. The cross-hairs cover up the target at that distance and I really wasn't trying that hard. I fired five shots in less than a minute. I didn't even use the set trigger.

Well, the proof is in the pudding. Here's to the naysayers that say cheap 7.62x39 ammo isn't accurate, or the round itself isn't capable of accuracy.

The CZ is a dandy little rifle. Light, quick handling, and accurate too!

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s720x720/418356_10100223525230923_80363486_n.jpg

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Jay the Plinker
August 6, 2012, 08:36 PM
I actually was looking at this for the price of ammo combined with cz not more than 3hrs ago on budsgunshop.com

Jay the Plinker
August 7, 2012, 01:25 AM
For someone who wants a cheap to shoot, accurate, moderate/low recoil dear rifle would you recommend this rifle.

ifit
August 7, 2012, 05:19 AM
very nice, specially those groups:cool: always wanted one but the price keeps me away from one. who knows i might just give in someday:) now can someone be daring enough and modify to fit ak mags:cool:

chicharrones
August 7, 2012, 08:23 AM
Very nice, Fireman!

I swear if this economy turns around, I will have to hunt down a CZ 527 Carbine. I don't need one, I just want one. :D

fireman 9731
August 7, 2012, 10:19 AM
For someone who wants a cheap to shoot, accurate, moderate/low recoil dear rifle would you recommend this rifle.

Absolutely! I plan on using mine this fall for deer, if I can fight the urge to use my H&R Buffalo Classic again. They are amazing little rifles, they don't compare to anything that Winchester/Remington/Ruger are making right now. You are basically getting a $1200 gun for half the price. They are very finely made.

They are a great woods gun, very quick handling and lightweight. 7.62x39 with a decent soft point bullet is plenty of medicine for deer. Recoil isn't bad. It is a very light rifle but it has a decent recoil pad. Its much less than other "normal" deer calibers.

I can't recommend it enough. Just go handle one if you can and you will see what I mean.

fireman 9731
August 7, 2012, 10:23 AM
now can someone be daring enough and modify to fit ak mags

A ten round AK mag would be sweet, and wouldn't hang down much, if any further than the factory mag.

I don't know if the stock or receiver are wide enough though. The rifle really is built around the cartridge. Everything is scaled to fit it.

I will keep my hopes up of finding one of the Lee Enfield conversions for a bolt action that takes AK mags though!

stubbicatt
August 8, 2012, 09:16 PM
Absolutely! I plan on using mine this fall for deer, if I can fight the urge to use my H&R Buffalo Classic again. They are amazing little rifles, they don't compare to anything that Winchester/Remington/Ruger are making right now. You are basically getting a $1200 gun for half the price. They are very finely made.

They are a great woods gun, very quick handling and lightweight. 7.62x39 with a decent soft point bullet is plenty of medicine for deer. Recoil isn't bad. It is a very light rifle but it has a decent recoil pad. Its much less than other "normal" deer calibers.

I can't recommend it enough. Just go handle one if you can and you will see what I mean.
+1

Every CZ rifle I have purchased meets this description. Incredible build quality and exceptional accuracy.

Have fun!

armoredman
August 8, 2012, 09:45 PM
I love my CZ527M in 7.62x39mm, and it vies for the place of "last rifle I would sell, if ever" spot. Good shooting, sir!

Casefull
August 9, 2012, 04:56 PM
Nice group with that ammo. Also nice rifle. I would like one.

http://http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m491/eaglemoxie/DSC00319.jpg

T.R.
August 10, 2012, 07:28 AM
Thank you for the unbiased review. I'm impressed by the looks and performance of this quality import. Now to figure out how to finance one for myself!

TR

Walkalong
August 10, 2012, 09:05 AM
Every time the fever for one of these rifles dies down, someone posts about them and gets me wanting one again. One of these days, one of these days.....


Nice shooting. :)

fireman 9731
August 10, 2012, 09:18 AM
They are worth every penny.

snakeman
August 10, 2012, 04:25 PM
It's a shame they cost so much! I want one, but they are too expensive.

armoredman
August 10, 2012, 06:32 PM
Mine was worth every penny I paid for it and more. :)

cpt-t
August 11, 2012, 03:06 PM
fireman 9731: I have CZ 527 762X39 CARBINE. And have used it for several years, the little rifle is just great. My rifle likes WOLF 123gr HP`s and shoots them an inch or less at a 100 yds. I have yet to start reloading for this rifle I find my self just buying more Wolf 123gr HP`s and have several cases, may not ever have to reload for it. I enjoy all of our CZ Rifles and my Son and I are real die hard CZ fans. But this rifle is really special to me, and I find my self carrying it more all the time I have taken Pigs, Deer, Coyotes, and a bunch of other varmits with it. And this is the rifle i carry when I go walking around now. Very light recoil, smooth action, super accruate, and the trigger is just wonderful. If a nother CZ rifle like it come our way that we can afford we will two of them. My rifle has a 4200 ELITE 4-16X50 on it now my eyes like the rest of me are getting old. GOOD LUCK TO YOU: ken

fireman 9731
November 24, 2012, 11:16 PM
Just an update, this past week I have taken two nice whitetail deer with my dandy little carbine. First off, it's a dream to carry in the woods. It's light weight and short length are excellent for carrying to and from your favorite hunting spot. Secondly the Hornady 123gr soft points performed flawlessly over a dipper full of H335. My first shot was at a decent sized doe facing straight at me at about 30 yards. A shot right in the boiler room dropped it where it stood. When I field dressed it, as soon as I opened up the chest the perfectly expanded Hornady soft point fell right out. The second deer was a medium sized doe that I shot at about 40 yards with the animal quarting towards me. I hit her in the shoulder, she ran about 30 yards and dropped. The bullet shattered the shoulder, turned the lungs into goo and exited just behind the far shoulder through a hole that looked to be at least a half inch in diameter.

The CZ 527 carbine chambered in x39 has quickly become my favorite deer gun. The x39 round, with proper bullet selection is plenty enough for effective take down of Kentucky whitetails yet damages little meat. It's no bean field gun, but it's just about perfect for eastern Kentucky woods hunting.

chris in va
November 24, 2012, 11:53 PM
Thanks for the update. I'm holding mine right now actually. I really like that little 2.5x on yours, may have to consider one.

BTW where did you get the scope? Can't find one online.

BearGriz
November 25, 2012, 12:51 AM
I'm still looking at getting this rifle, however, recently I've read some posts here and there about a feeding issue with the magazines. Has anyone here experienced that?

chris in va
November 25, 2012, 03:03 AM
That was probably me.

Some rounds were getting jacked up at a 45 degree angle. The follower isn't anti-tilt. Turns out the magazine stop notch has a burr inside from the crude finishing, so a second of Dremel work fixed that. The case head would catch on that burr.

Look on the back of the mag, you'll see the notch.

fireman 9731
November 25, 2012, 11:59 AM
I got the scope at a local shop. It's a cheap scope, the optics aren't great, but it gets the job done and I like its size. I had a few feeding issues but they were all magazine related. I polished the feed lips and tweaked the spring. It has worked fine now.

fireman 9731
November 25, 2012, 12:02 PM
Here is the scope. Only $20 right now!

http://www.natchezss.com/brand.cfm?contentID=productDetail&brand=TA&prodID=TABA25X20D&prodTitle=Tasco%20Bantam%202.5x20%20Shotgun/Muzzleloader%20Scope%20Pro-Shot%20Reticle%20Matte

MIL-DOT
November 26, 2012, 08:56 AM
After considerable research and hand-wringing over the decision to go with the x39 or the .223, I grabbed one in .223 a couple weeks ago, and I'm STILL conflicted about the decision,LOL!! But, the x39 was noticably more expensive, and I couldn't find one in stock, and besides, I always wanted a bolt gun that could shoot my stash of surplus 5.56, which pretty much limited me to this rifle.
I had a Bushnell Elite 4200 3-9x40 lying around already, so I ordered some Burris rings from Opticsplanet,and slapped that on it.
My freinds and I were surprised to find my rifle responds really well to Silver Bear 62 gr ( Russian steel-cased) ammo, which surprised me as this has a 1:12 twist. I put a couple 3-shot groups inside a nickel-sized target decal, from 50 yards. We were later shooting golf-ball sized groups at 90 yards with both Silver bear and lake City 55 gr.
I feel like i could do a little better, but I find that I'm having a more difficult time stabilizing this super-light rifle from a rest than I do a heavier rifle ( yeah, I know, what a news-flash:D.)
By and large, other than some early teething issues with the magazine feeding consistently, I really like these rifles.

BearGriz
November 26, 2012, 10:54 AM
So it sounds like the magazine feeding issues are real, but they are not too difficult to fix? Extra mags seem pretty expensive, ($43 at Midway USA right now), so you'd think there would be better quality control at that price.

fireman 9731
November 27, 2012, 11:10 PM
Yeah. The magazine that makes the rifle unique also causes a few hiccups. I don't think it's true with every example though. It takes some getting used to the feel of stripping a round from a removable magazine with a controlled round feed action. Internal fixed, box, blind or whatever feed a lot smoother. Especially if you are used to a push feed style rifle.

Work the action with some intent and the problem seems to fix itself. After shooting my deer, I worked the bolt as fast and smooth as I ever have without evening thinking about it.

Don't let a possible magazine feeding issue deter you from wanting or buying one. Magazines are the weak link in any firearm. The CZ is still a finely crafted rifle made only of wood and steel with a craftsmanship that is hard to find anymore.

BearGriz
November 29, 2012, 10:33 AM
Yeah. The magazine that makes the rifle unique also causes a few hiccups. I don't think it's true with every example though.

Is the unique aspect of it the fact that it is removable? I assume that must be it since the majority of bolt-action rifles I know of have fixed magazines.

Col. Plink
November 29, 2012, 02:57 PM
What a fine little rifle they are! Was lucky enough to find a used one here on THR in my own town at a good price and still feel lucky for having decided to move on it. It's so good I call it "The Cheater".:D

Actually, I didn't have to decide. Had been looking for one and moved immediately when I saw the ad.

No feeding issues, even for my novice nephew who was immediately ripping through all five rounds as fast as he could aim, fire, and cycle the bolt.

Mine loves Barnaul 123-gr fmj, with only slight variation in impact point for other cheapie ammo (Tula, Wolf jhp's, Herter's sp's, etc). Put a fixed 4x Nikon on it and could probably get groups like the OP with a scope with finer crosshairs. I use mine to shoot seated off my elbows at clays at 100m and punch 'em without much effort (hence the nickname for it).

Consider the savings in ammo and the price really aint that bad.

Here's a pic or two... (mauser is a VZ-24)

Float Pilot
November 29, 2012, 10:00 PM
What is the current street price average for a CZ-527 in 7.62x39mm ??

armoredman
November 29, 2012, 10:52 PM
Last price Buds had for the 7.62x39mm variant was $668, out of stock now. They do have a .223 version available for $557.

Mine is awesome, and is getting a new custom stock made for it by a master gunsmith, bedded and pillared...can't wait.


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/527/OldSchool.jpg

cpt-t
November 30, 2012, 01:27 PM
Float Piolt: There is one at a LGS here in Wichita Ks for $700.00 + NIB. That is more than twice what I paid for mine. I bought mine used several years ago, from Gander Mtn. I thought it was a new gun the way it looked but they said it was used. I have really enjoyed this rifle, us mine a lot and it is one of my favorite CZ`s.
ken

trueg50
November 30, 2012, 06:57 PM
It seems everyone knows how great these rifles are, I can't find a single retailer any where with the 7.62x39 in stock, and the .223 version is only found in a few places.

cpt-t
December 1, 2012, 12:50 AM
truego50: If you would like I could get the adress and phone number for the LGS that has this NIB CZ 527 762x39. The LGS`s name in the BULLEYES GUN SHOP and the number is (( 316-686-7264.)) The price is $700.00 I think and they have had this rifle for quite a while, so they may make you a better price. I realy like mine, it is one of my favorite CZ Rifles, and mine really likes the Wolf 123 gr HP`s. If I could help you any more, I would be proud to.
ken

fireman 9731
December 2, 2012, 12:46 AM
Is the unique aspect of it the fact that it is removable? I assume that must be it since the majority of bolt-action rifles I know of have fixed magazines.

Pretty much. It's single stack and uses a latching mechanism like a Swiss K-31. It makes loading and unloading a lot faster after a day in the field and you can easily have spare magazines for quick reloads. Like I said before, I think the feeding issue may be getting blown out of proportion a little on here. I traded a rem 700 for mine at my local shop so I can't help much on the price.

I need to get a 30 cal bullet mold and work up a nice light cast load. I tinkered with pulling apart cheap steel cased ammo, dumping the powder, and refilling with a light load of trail boss. They were a lot of fun to shoot but pretty labor intensive to make.

armoredman
December 2, 2012, 11:17 AM
fireman, NOE made a GREAT mold for 7.62x39mm, and I was lucky enough to find one - 129 grain bullet, works great. The Lee bullet pictured also works pretty good - the Lyman did OK. :) Those were a gift, I don't have the Lyman mold.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/casting%20stuff/currenthandloads762x39.jpg

fireman 9731
December 2, 2012, 12:21 PM
Thanks for the info Armoredman. I will probably go with Lee tumble lube. I wish they made it in about 125grs instead of 160 but I will give it a try. Are you shooting full power or reduced loads?

RCArms.com
December 2, 2012, 12:32 PM
I have to say that I read quite a but on this little rifle before I was able to track one down. While I hold a FFL, I could not find a CZ Distributor that had one in stock, so I purchased this one retail at Gander Mountain.

Details on my initial review here: http://rcarms.com/106.html

Ky Larry
December 2, 2012, 06:59 PM
I have one of thgese rifles in .223. Feeding was a bit sticky but it broke in after 100 rnds or so. I have the Varmint model with walnut stock and heavy barrel. It is a very handy little rifle.

joneb
December 2, 2012, 10:36 PM
They do have a .223 version available for $557.
I wish they made the thing with a 1:9" :(
I have a CZ catalog from 07 the 527 carbine has always been one I like to have, but the .223 w/a 1:12 twist does not appeal to me so the 7.62x39 would be my choice.

dirtpig67
December 21, 2012, 07:47 PM
For those of you that like iron sights, this might be of interest to you:

Rear peep sight for the CZ 527.
http://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/Gun_Services/item_info.asp?Brand_id=5934&ST=The%20NEW%20CZ%20527%20Ghost%20Ring%20Peep

http://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/uploads/myphotos/CZ527-1.jpg

One would have to remove the factory rear right for it to work out.

I love my CZ 527 but it would be absolutely perfect with a 7.62x39 calibrated adjustable rear sight like the CZ 452 Military Training Rifle which is similar in operation to the sights you see on AKs and SKSs.
http://cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-452-special-military-training-rifle/

Float Pilot
December 22, 2012, 02:40 PM
I called around up here in Alaska and could not find one. Just a couple in 223.
And one guy who was converting one to 6.5mm Grendel.
As it turns out I might be better off buying more hand-loading supplies for the rifles I already have on hand.......

CraigC
December 22, 2012, 02:48 PM
Sweet little carbines, always wanted one, never got around to it. A 6.5Grendel version would be very cool as well.

BearGriz
December 25, 2012, 12:05 PM
I've wanted one of these for a while, but I guess I'll have to see if any ammo restrictions are enacted (or made by Executive decree) before I get one. The whole point of me getting one of these is so I can have a fairly accurate bolt gun that eats cheap wolf ammo, but still hits the target out to 100 or even 200 yards.

But if we suddenly lose that supply of ammo, then this might become less enticing to me.

RUT
December 26, 2012, 11:12 AM
This will be my next gun purchase! :)

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