What do you think of Sellier & Bellot ammo


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dondavis3
August 7, 2012, 09:57 AM
What do you think of Sellier & Bellot ammo

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mljdeckard
August 7, 2012, 10:04 AM
I've never had a problem with it. I cranked through a whole case of their target load in my 870 one afternoon, and I have used their .45s from time to time. Works just like any other ammo.

beatledog7
August 7, 2012, 10:10 AM
It's good ammo and can usually be had for a reasonable price. I've used pretty much all of their "common" handgun rounds without issues.

If you reload, be aware that S&B primer pockets are notoriously tight.

The Bushmaster
August 7, 2012, 10:24 AM
Don't know how good their ammunition is, but the brass is pretty good for reloading.

bannockburn
August 7, 2012, 10:30 AM
Decent ammo at an affordable price. I usually pick it up at the local gunshows because it's a lot cheaper there than at the nearby gun shops. Very pleased with the results from their .38 Special wadcutters.

kokapelli
August 7, 2012, 10:33 AM
I have had problems with it that I believe were due to their hard primers.

I have had many failures to fire and in multiple guns so quit using it many years ago.

vaupet
August 7, 2012, 10:42 AM
it is my standard load in 9mm and 223 rem, never any problem.

Nico Testosteros
August 7, 2012, 10:44 AM
Never used any rifle rounds, I like it in 9mm a lot.

BRE346
August 7, 2012, 11:25 AM
I found Seller 'n Beller just fine.

holdencm9
August 7, 2012, 11:35 AM
I like S&B in 9mm a lot. I have heard people say they have hard primers but they have never been a problem in my 92FS, even after the d-spring modification. They seem pretty accurate, and they feel like they have a bit more gusto than some of the other cheap practice ammo, but maybe someone else can post the ballistics info since I don't have it in front of me.

Usually they run like $15 for a box of (50) 9mm at Cabela's, but on more than one occasion I saw them for under $10 per box, and I promptly scoop up about a dozen boxes :D

LeonCarr
August 7, 2012, 11:42 AM
I have shot a bunch of S&B Buckshot and Slugs with no problems. Their slugs are similar to Brennekes and are very effective on hogs.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

chris in va
August 7, 2012, 11:46 AM
I find their 9mm FMJ to be a bit more stout than regular domestic range ammo.

From a reloading perspective, they used to make the cases out of mild steel with a brass colored wash. Once I learned of this, all my range brass got sifted with a magnet. Sure enough, a couple of these impostors would turn up. They seemed to have switched back to brass the past couple years, but still pretty hard to resize.

heeler
August 7, 2012, 11:54 AM
I have a bunch of it in both 9mm and 380.
Zero issues with either.
And generally priced very low compared to a lot of other brands.

M7
August 7, 2012, 11:57 AM
High quality ammo. Never a problem with it. Use it a lot.

GlackAttack
August 7, 2012, 11:58 AM
9mm s&b is great, no issues. It says it has a higher muzzle velocity than most others and I can just barely feel the extra heat. They seem to be high quality IMO.

Nushif
August 7, 2012, 12:24 PM
when we buy store ammo we buy either UMC or S&B. Of the two S&B is by far the better round. Never a problem and it does seem a nice and warm load. Although to be fair, I've never had a problem with either.

mgmorden
August 7, 2012, 12:26 PM
Always worked fine for me. Some of their pistol "brass" is actually steel cased with a brass coating/plating which is a bit annoying. It'll still reload but I usually sort it out with a magnet for later use.

Wishoot
August 7, 2012, 12:28 PM
Good stuff. Never a problem.

Buy them in bulk when Cabela's has a sale.

Dreamliner787
August 7, 2012, 12:28 PM
Never had any issues with their 9mm or 380acp.

Pilot
August 7, 2012, 12:32 PM
I used a lot of S&B in different calibers but mostly 5.56, 9MM, and .45 ACP. Never had a problem. Good ammo at decent prices.

pockets
August 7, 2012, 02:02 PM
I've used it for years with zero issues.
I currently have stocks of S&B in 9x19, 9x18, 9x17, .32acp, and .25acp.

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WardenWolf
August 7, 2012, 02:04 PM
S&B ammo is top-flight stuff. You really can't beat it in terms of quality.

wojownik
August 7, 2012, 02:41 PM
Been shooting it regularly for over 15 years now. Great ammo.

forindooruseonly
August 7, 2012, 03:06 PM
I shoot a lot of it in calibers I don't reload and have had good luck with it. I wouldn't say its hot, by any means, but it certainly has a little more behind it than the bulk stuff from Federal or Winchester.

The best thing is, if you're patient, you can find screaming deals on it. Last year Cabelas had 9mm for 8.99 a box, shipped. That's getting close to what I can reload FMJ for, not counting my time and effort. My closet is overflowing with the stuff.

ETA: we run a lot of it through subguns because it's cheap and a little hotter than the bulk stuff at Walmart. Seems to help the open bolt guns function better. I didn't think about this earlier.

BigWoolyBanjo
August 7, 2012, 05:31 PM
Their .357 Magnum is weak. No kick. Shoots like .38 Special.

marb4
August 7, 2012, 05:42 PM
Their 9mm has never given me any problems.

351 WINCHESTER
August 7, 2012, 05:50 PM
It's good ammo and a little hotter than our ammo. Primers are sealed - goes bang everytime. I've shot .32acp, 9mm, .38 special and .303 British. Never had a problem.

chrisf8657
August 7, 2012, 06:07 PM
I've heard mixed reviews on the stuff - some say it's good, others say it's junk.
I remember several threads/posts where people were getting undercharged rounds, and some even got squibs with no powder.

Wags
August 7, 2012, 06:17 PM
For range or plinking ammo if that's all you can find. I bought 2,000rds of it in 9mm 115gr ball in 2006. It was cheap in price, and the quality was cheap also. Everything from failure to fire (hard primer hits too) to light loads. I'll never purchase it again. I was expecting better. Hopefully they turned there quality around.

italy4nra
August 7, 2012, 08:45 PM
High quality ammo. Match grade ammo is cheap and very accurate.
303 British (green box): excellent
7.62x54r match (green box): awesome
9mm: never a problem.
22lr: a bit wide, prefer Fiocci, Lapua, CCI

Honest John
August 7, 2012, 11:23 PM
S&B .45 ACP was my cartridge of choice before I started reloading. I never had a problem attributable to it.

WardenWolf
August 7, 2012, 11:50 PM
Because they seal their primers and bullets, S&B ammo is also an excellent candidate for longterm storage. For those who stockpile ammo, take note.

SGW42
August 7, 2012, 11:56 PM
Had a hard primer on a .32 ACP that had to be struck twice to go off. Consensus on KTOG is the same - hard primers.

I buy it for nearly every other caliber and don't have any problems. In fact it's my favorite brand, just not in .32.

Warp
August 8, 2012, 12:16 AM
I haven't used much but it's been good.

NMPOPS
August 8, 2012, 02:29 AM
My only experience with S&B ahs been with 45 ACP and it was good ammo, no problems whatsoever.

edfrompa
August 8, 2012, 02:40 PM
For some firearms it works fine, like the CZ. Others not so fine.

itchy1
August 8, 2012, 08:10 PM
I've had nothing but good results from the 1500+ rounds I've fired in 9mm. My only gripe is that they seem a little smokier than some other brands when shooting indoors--nitpicking really. Herter's Select is actually rebranded S&B and can often be found at a cheaper price. It's what I buy most of the time for range fodder.

CWL
August 8, 2012, 09:29 PM
I've fired thousands of round of pistol ball and hundreds of 00 12ga. They are a little more dirty and leave more residue in the barrel and on the gun.

Pistol all fire well with no complaint in .9mm, .40SW or .45ACP.

Wouldn't recommend the shotgun, the buck isn't held in a cup and it patterns horribly.

19-3Ben
August 8, 2012, 10:42 PM
No issues in 9mm, .380acp, .38spl, and .357mag.

TaylorBrassjole73
August 8, 2012, 11:29 PM
I only have experience with the 140gr. 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser soft points, they worked wonders on the whitetails last year, I only shot out to about 115 years but it performed well.

DougW
August 8, 2012, 11:35 PM
Good stuff. Got a bunch. Shoots great.

Geo47
August 8, 2012, 11:56 PM
Good quality, inexpensive ammo. I never had a problem with it until I tried the .38 in a J-frame Chief's Special with a bobbed hammer, and ran into the "hard primer" issue. One out of five would not ignite, despite a good dent in the primer. This didn't happen with other brands I shot that day. I replaced the hammer spring with an extra-power Wolff spring, and that fixed the problem. So I'd say the primers are a bit harder than other brands, but that this shouldn't be a problem with unmodified guns in good condition.

foghornl
August 9, 2012, 12:05 AM
Shot a bunch of it in .45ACP. Seemed a bit cleaner and a fraction more consistant than UMC or Winchester White Box.

Couple of boxes of .38Spl in my (gasp!) Rohm/RG snubby...worked well.

hso
August 9, 2012, 12:07 AM
Good

BBDartCA
August 9, 2012, 03:02 AM
Primer pockets seems undersized for the handloader.

zbird
August 9, 2012, 06:16 AM
Good quality ammo, at a resonable price.

kerreckt
August 9, 2012, 11:33 AM
Have used it in .380, 9mm, 40S&W, .45acp., probably some others I can't remember right now and never had a problem. Usually, can be bought at a reasonable lesser price and represents a very good value. Great brass to reload. Tight primer pockets which I like.

NoirFan
August 9, 2012, 01:35 PM
No issues with their .38 special and .357 magnum ammo. Seems to be loaded to low/moderate velocities but it burns clean and is more accurate than I am. I really like their 12-guage buckshot because it's half the price of any other buckshot I've seen, 100% reliable in my experience, and patterns well out of my gun.

fasttheo
August 9, 2012, 04:11 PM
It's my carry ammo in 7.65mm. I've never had a hard primer, and the rounds are accurate. It's loaded hotter than pretty much any domestic ammo (not including Buffalo Bore). My only complaint is that it seems a little dirtier than some of the domestic ammo out there.

I also like the sealed primers.

CornCod
August 10, 2012, 11:14 AM
I have used S&B in 7.62X39 and 7.62X25. Both were fine. the X25 was super accurate.

Fastcast
August 10, 2012, 03:33 PM
the X25 was super accurate.

Yep, the 7.62x25 is absolutely "match" grade in my CZ52...Unreal groups!...Makes you realize what crap the milsurp stuff is/was.

S&B has been flawless for me in 9x17, 9x18, 9x19 and 7.62x25

Jlr2267
August 10, 2012, 03:47 PM
The 9mm SB I've used is pretty dirty, and leaves a lot of unburned powder.

The 357 stuff was good though...go figure

toejamm
August 10, 2012, 04:00 PM
I've used it in many different calibers. Never a malfunction.
9MM FMJ is exceptional (IMO) because it runs a little hotter than other brands without the +P issues.

Buy with confidence.

KYLonggun_Joe
August 10, 2012, 05:15 PM
Been using their 9mm in my CZ-75 for years. No misfires, no problems. You can occasionally find a brick of 1000 rounds for relatively cheap on line. The only time I've seen or heard of probs with 'em has been RL of the brass. Just my $0.02.

VA27
August 10, 2012, 05:35 PM
I've got an old (1916 DOB) Colt Vest Pocket with new springs in it. WWB and Fiocchi won't run it. It works perfectly with S&B and GoldDot. S&B is good stuff.

burk
August 10, 2012, 06:41 PM
I only have experience with the 140gr. 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser soft points, they worked wonders on the whitetails last year, I only shot out to about 115 years but it performed well.

In Mauser the European stuff seems to be far hotter than commercial US Ammo stuff. It appears the American companies are afraid of lawsuits with them blowing up in old Mausers. But the S & B stuff takes the 8mm Mauser from 30-30 territory to 308 territory. Their pistol ammo seems fine to me, but in 9mm and .45 ACP I've settled on CCI Lawman or Blazer Brass and it runs great.

el Godfather
August 10, 2012, 07:25 PM
I had recently bought 4000 SB rounds of 9mm and 45ACP mix. No complaints.

Redneck with a 40
August 11, 2012, 08:32 PM
I've fired quite a bit of S&B 9mm, never had any problems with it. Its priced great, so I'll continue to use it.

GratefulGuy1234
August 11, 2012, 09:24 PM
Absolutely fantastic. I find the 9mm to feel a bit 'hot', which is great!! FMJ I buy the 124 gr, I even like the 9mm jhp 115 gr, it's inexpensive and you can use it at the indoor range and my picky kahr will feed it reliably.
It's a great buy.

Scott

PabloJ
August 11, 2012, 10:12 PM
What do you think of Sellier & Bellot ammo

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It's ok, but I prefer to use Fiocchi.

Madcap_Magician
August 11, 2012, 10:22 PM
I think it shoots a little dirty. It also seems a tad on the hot end... not that that matters much. Always goes bang in my experience.

HKGuns
August 11, 2012, 11:10 PM
I shoot it and reload it a lot. Functions fine, but for reloading the primer pockets are a bit tight, but useable.

I prefer it over UMC or WWB.

CZguy
August 12, 2012, 12:02 AM
Origionally posted by hso.

Good

You have displayed an admirable economy of words, that is an inspiration to us all............but what do you mean?

GLOOB
August 12, 2012, 02:22 AM
Friend kB'd a Bersa with S&B ammo. From the description, it was a squib load followed by a live round.

Erich K.
August 12, 2012, 09:51 AM
Shoot a lot of the 9mm Nontox and Normal 124 gr.

No Problems after round about 5000 Rounds with my Glock 17 and 1911..

The 9mm Normal 124gr from the 250 Piece pack shows no diffeerence..

Shoot also 8x57IS S&B in my 98k Mauser and also good Results!

Regards

Erich

2ndAmFan
August 12, 2012, 10:04 AM
Never had any trouble with S&B and I've used it in several different calibers.

PTMCCAIN
August 12, 2012, 10:52 AM
Here's a vote for S&B, their 9mm has always just worked fine for me.

ApacheCoTodd
August 12, 2012, 02:30 PM
We used to use it as a standard test fire round in several calibers and eventually bought in pallets for re-sale to underwrite test fire ammo. With no issues at all over many-many thousands of rounds of a half dozen calibers, I'd always say it's been worth any contemporary cost we paid knowing that it is not necessarily the most accurate option when cost is not a factor.

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