S&W 4513 TSW question


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Racinbob
August 8, 2012, 12:30 PM
I recently picked up this mint S&W 4513 TSW. Note that it has the 6 round magazine rather than the more common (I think) 7 round. It doesn't look like it's been fired and may not have been when I got it but it has been now. The serial # starts with TDM which seemingly puts the date of manufacture about 1988-1989. But, the description for this 6 round model on page 309 states that is was made between 1997-1999. I believe the trigger and hammer are MIM so that seems like it would be correct. They do state that certain prefixes were reserved for future production but that many years later? Can someone shed some light on this particular model?

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fastbolt
August 9, 2012, 02:17 PM
The "original" 4513TSW with the cutaway grip profile (to allow the use of the shortened 6-rd magazine) was made for a couple of years, at the same time of the original 3913TSW that used the same cutaway grip profile design.

I picked one up back then and used it for several years, until they issued me a new production 4513TSW with the standard grip profile (which allows use of the standard 7-rd magazine, such as that used on the 4516 & 457 series). I still have mine, but why keeping running all those rounds through mine when I had an issued new-production 4513TSW to subject to all that wear & tear? ;)

The original 4513TSW also lacks a few features of the newer production models, such as the loaded chamber visual inspection port; the slide being machined to accept the spring-loaded, decock-only assembly; and the accessory rail. The newer slides no longer require the downward angled machined slot for the removal of the right side ambi lever, either (for slide disassembly), and they've made some slight revisions to the machining inside the slide.

The 6-rd magazines made for the original 4513 differ from the 6-rd magazines made for the CS45, BTW. They lack the additional impressed dimples needed on the CS45 mag bodies to help prevent displacement of the top round (caused by the sharper recoil of the lighter, faster cycling CS45).

The wide & flat butt plates for the original 4513 can still come on magazines ordered, but last time I called they weren't available as separate spare parts. The curved butt plates will work on the mags, though.

I modified a set of Hogue grips for the standard 4516/457 to fit my own original 4513TSW (and one belonging to a friend), but it was a bit of a pain.

This is my own original 4513TSW (top) and a new production 4513TSW (bottom).
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/fastbolt/4513TSWpair.jpg

This is my 4513 pictured next to my CS45. I have a magazine with the curved butt plate in the 4513 in this image.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/fastbolt/4513CS45.jpg

Racinbob
August 10, 2012, 10:47 AM
Thanks Fastbolt. That confirms my feelings that the 97-99 production dates are correct. The prefix is just out of order. I tried the Hogues on mine before cutting them out but they were just a little too fat for my liking. I did put a set on my 3913 and they are just right. I didn't know the 3913 originally had the cutout as well. Great pictures comparing the 4513's and the CS45. The two 3rd Gens are my favorite shooters and I definitely see myself adding to the stable. I installed a trigger, hammer and slide stop from a 908 on the 3913 because I like the black contriols and I prefer a non-ambi safety.

fastbolt
August 10, 2012, 11:49 AM
Nice.

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