Savage 11/111 Trophy Hunter


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Inebriated
August 9, 2012, 12:05 AM
Hey, I'm looking for a nice hunting rifle, and maybe a future project gun right now, and I've stumbled across the Savage 11 and 111 Trophy Hunter models. They have the Accutrigger, no Accustock (which should make buying stocks easier), and are an excellent price.

Before I do it, I'm wondering if these will accept the common aftermarket parts (barrels and stocks, mostly). I am mainly wanting to eventually build a nice medium-range (500ish yards) rifle out of it.

Thanks!

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snakeman
August 9, 2012, 12:34 AM
yes, they will accept aftermarket parts

Inebriated
August 9, 2012, 12:59 AM
Cool, thanks!

snakeman
August 9, 2012, 01:08 AM
These are excellent guns and be sure if you do purchase aftermarket parts to determine whether you want centerfeed or staggered feed for your gun. I don't know which stock it will accept so be wary of this when you buy. You should also measure your action screws center to center.

Inebriated
August 9, 2012, 01:17 AM
Yeah, I've shot a couple, and I like them a lot.

And I'll be sure to get the details, I'm just making sure these don't fall into the same fate as the Axis did, with almost no aftermarket.

jim243
August 9, 2012, 01:23 AM
The 11 has a detachable mag. Most Savage aftermarket stocks do not (box mags) that could be a problem. Check on stocks before you buy. They are great guns right out of the box and barrels are easy to find. It is the stock you may want to find before you buy.


Jim

snakeman
August 9, 2012, 01:30 AM
^^^That's what I was trying to say, albeit much more straightfoward and not so overly loquacious.

Inebriated
August 9, 2012, 02:27 AM
My understanding is that a detachable magazine can be converted to a center-feed blind mag pretty easily, so stock options shouldn't be bad.

Thanks guys.

motocross7100
December 12, 2012, 12:34 AM
are the forearms on the savage 11 normally a little loose?

Tim the student
December 12, 2012, 01:25 AM
are the forearms on the savage 11 normally a little loose?

Well, the regular stocks are pretty flimsy, if thats what you are asking.

Inebriated
December 12, 2012, 01:40 AM
It's flimsy as hell if you plan on a bipod.

Off-hand and off bags are fine, but off a bipod is just awful. You can put some fiberglass in the front of the stock to stiffen it, which helps a lot.

idcurrie
December 12, 2012, 02:05 AM
If you intend to steady your shot using a sling properly, as you should, this is not the rifle for you. The fore end will flex such that it makes contact with the barrel and changes the point of impact. These rifles are not for serious shooters without heavy modification. There are a multitude of superior rifles available.

Inebriated
December 12, 2012, 02:14 AM
Changing the stock is hardly "heavy modification".

Tim the student
December 12, 2012, 02:49 AM
Changing the stock is hardly "heavy modification".

Not in my world it isn't.

NeuseRvrRat
December 12, 2012, 08:59 AM
i've got a Savage 12 in .22-250. it has the flimsy plastic factory stock. haven't got around to changing it yet. kinda hard to spend the money to do so when it shoots these kind of groups (this one was off a bipod).

not sure how much the 12's stock is different than the stock on the 11.

WoodchuckAssassin
December 12, 2012, 09:05 AM
What would be a good price on one of these? I was looking at one at Wal-Mart in .243 for $477. There's no detachable magazine on the one I'm looking at.

NeuseRvrRat
December 12, 2012, 09:11 AM
i usually use www.budsgunshop.com as a guide for new prices

helotaxi
December 12, 2012, 09:47 AM
I bought mine from Bud's about two months ago. They come with the cheap plastic stock, but if you're right handed, there are many options available for you in a replacement stock. None of the aftermarket stock that I'm aware of will use the factory "bottom plastic" of the Trophy Hunter for the detachable magazine, but they can be easily and cheaply converted to a blind magazine or you can add quality bottom metal to a quality stock for a detachable mag if that's what you want.

There is no "decide if you want centerfeed or stagger feed". All the rifles made in the last 6 years or so, so all the Trophy Hunters, have the centerfeed action screw spacing.

If you're looking for a project gun to tear apart from the get-go, go to a pawn shop and find one with a good action and a beat up stock and marginal barrel. Get it for a good price and go to work.

The Trophy Hunter makes sense if you're looking for a long term project that you can shoot right away and upgrade incrementally as time, funds and parts availability allow. That's where my Trophy Hunter is at this point. The scope, bases and rings have been swapped out. I'm waiting on the stock. Being left handed I only really had one option: Stockade. Spoke with Kevin there a good bit and got my stock on order including his bottom metal and the WSM compatible AI type magazine. Wait on that is looking like mid-March. In the mean time, load development for a couple different loads from long range deer/elk/antelope to medium range target and coyote. I think a 110gn Vmax at somewhere around 3700fps should be interesting.

Cee Zee
December 12, 2012, 10:48 AM
Some of the 11/111's come with wood stocks BTW. They are much better about not flexing. Check out this example. I know it's a 110 but they make 111 and 11 models with wood stocks too. And there isn't a lot of difference between them anyway.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549505

soonerfan85
December 12, 2012, 04:49 PM
I have no experience with the synthetic stocked Savages, but I do have a model 111 with the factory wood stock and it shoots well enough to kill all the deer I can legally take every year.

It's not a target rifle, but then you really don't need a target rifle to hunt with. Steadying the rifle against a tree I can easily hit a deer's kill zone from 100-200 yds. I bought mine used 2 years ago with a Burris 3-9x40 scope for $330. If you can find a used one with the factory wood stock you won't be disappointed.

helotaxi
December 12, 2012, 10:09 PM
Some of the 11/111's come with wood stocks BTW. They are much better about not flexing. Check out this example. I know it's a 110 but they make 111 and 11 models with wood stocks too. And there isn't a lot of difference between them anyway.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549505
The difference is the wood stock and about $60. If you're planning to change the stock anyway, why spend the extra $$$? Oh, and the 10/110 version isn't available in a left-handed model or in the Win Short Magnums or a lot of other cartridges that the 11/111 is available in.

Cee Zee
December 13, 2012, 02:55 AM
The 11/111's are also available with wood stocks. If the OP wants to swap stocks it certainly doesn't make sense to buy a more expensive stock but I thought possibly the wood available might be good enough since it doesn't flex like the Savage synthetic stocks do. BTW I was surprised to see a 110 at all. Those models are apparently being phased out. I can't find very many of them on the Savage web site or at least the last time I looked I couldn't. The differences are minimal anyway. There may be less calibers available but that's another sign the 110's are being phased out IMO. But did the OP want a Win Short Mag at some point? I didn't see that if he did. Maybe I missed it. Anyway I was just pointing out that there were wood stocks available in the Trophy Hunter series.

Inebriated
December 13, 2012, 03:16 AM
I've had the rifle for months, guys lol. Got the 111 synthetic with Nikon scope in .30-06. Very happy with it. Stock is terribly flimsy, but it works just fine if I'm not using a bipod. With a bipod, it definitely is noticeable. It still doesn't touch the barrel, but there is a lot of movement. I can get good hits, but my groups open considerably with the bipod. Overall, though, there's not much reason to change the stock. Hunting, it's shot off-hand at short distances. And the stock is nice and light. At the range, I can always just put it on sand bags.

soonerfan85
December 13, 2012, 06:16 PM
Just when this tread picks up some steam, here comes the OP to put a stake throught its heart. Way to go Inebriated . ;)

Tim the student
December 13, 2012, 06:28 PM
Just when this tread picks up some steam, here comes the OP to put a stake throught its heart. Way to go Inebriated

Well, it did kind of get highjacked and resurrected just a bit. :neener:

Inebriated
December 14, 2012, 12:32 AM
Just when this tread picks up some steam, here comes the OP to put a stake throught its heart. Way to go Inebriated .

I brought it into this world and by God, I will take it out! lol

Cee Zee
December 14, 2012, 03:14 AM
Whatever but it sure looked like you were intending to buy a Trophy Hunter guy. Maybe that stake through the heart of this thread isn't such a bad idea. ;)

Inebriated
December 14, 2012, 04:26 AM
I was. And I did. It's quite simple.

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