[Amish]

Here's some pics of them actually being used. Imagine that! Actually they are used daily by 650,000 active ROK soldiers:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2563&highlight=daewoo

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7503&highlight=rok

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7521&highlight=rok

There are some shots of the K3 SAW too if you look carefully.

[another48hrs]

Thanks for the links Amish. Too bad they don't import Daewoos anymore. I like the picture of the recon unit where the guy has a crossbow.

[Beav]

Very cool pictures and info.

I just bought a DR200 last week, eagerly waiting for it to arrive so I can get a ACE stock and grip for it.

[Amish]

You will really like the ace stock set. The tube stock reduced the overall weight quite a bit and balances the rifle much better. Without a loaded mag, the center of weight is right in the middle. It also makes the rifle look wickedly bad as*. As another bonus, the trigger the set comes with is smoother too. Be sure to get the 9.5 inch stock with pad. I found the 8.5 too short.

[Beav]

Thanks for the info. Do you know how good the scope mounts are, I was wondering how stable/solid they are from the pictures I've seen.
Thanks

[Amish]

Solid as a rock. If you look at the pic below you will see one of the Black Berets with a huge device of some sort mounted on the K2. I have two of the mounts and they are solid enough to use as a carry handle, which I think they were designed for as well. The reciever is pre drilled with two screw holes so the mount attaches onto the reciever with two screws. With the right scope rings you can use the iron sights at the same time.

http://linux.ntcast.com:8000/~fosho/gallery/albums/album06/roksf.jpg

[M2 Carbine]

It's hard to believe when I bought my K2 they were $350.:)

[son of a gun]

M2 Carbine

It's hard to believe when I bought my K2 they were $350

I picked one of those up in 1995 or 1996 for that price it seemed like a good alternative to AR15 for half the price. I like the adjustable gas port also. :D

[Beav]

I bought my DR200 for $699 (you can find them cheaper), in fact the day after I committed to my rifle a new one showed up on gunsamerica for the same price but with all of the upgrades I wanted (gdamnit!!! :banghead: ) The stock set and the scope mount will be about another $200. So overall it'll be about $900. Still, not too shabby compared to the price of other rifles I was considering.

I was going nuts deciding which gas piston 223 rifle I would buy and when I found out about the stock set it made the Daewoo a no-brainer. I really wanted an FNC (still do) but for $2000+ its just too much for me right now. I was thinking Galil as well but they're even more expensive $3000+. I think eventually, I'll have one built by IGF for much less.

[Amish]

I was able to buy several like new DR-200's for cheap. A bargin pops up now and then.

The FNC has nothing over the Daewoo. I personally think the FNC looks cheap with it stamped upper and i've heard they have durability issues. As for the Galil, it's too heavy for a .223 and the ergonomics and mounting option isn't much different from a regular AK. Both are no bargin when compared to the Daewoo. There is no real good reason why they are less expensive than the FNC or Galil besides maybe the number of them imported.

As a side note look at what Nepal is looking to replace it's SLR's with:

http://www.nepalnews.com/ntimes/issue69/headline_1.htm

[Trebor]

Can someone give me the rundown on the different models and variants of the Daewoo rifles? I know there are several designs, including both pre and post ban variants, but I don't know any specifics. I understand they are a good value, but I don't even know enough to know which model to hunt for.

[son of a gun]

Trebor



Can someone give me the rundown on the different models and variants of the Daewoo rifles? I know there are several designs, including both pre and post ban variants, but I don't know any specifics. I understand they are a good value, but I don't even know enough to know which model to hunt for.


http://home.earthlink.net/~dangerousdude/Daewoo%20dr200%201.jpg

Daewoo K1 and K2 are primary infantry weapons of the South Korean Army. These rifles replaced in service old M16A1 rifles.
Technically, Daewoo K2 is a select-fire, gas driven, rotating bolt firearm. The bolt/bolt carrier assembly of the K2 is very similar to one of the M16, but with one main difference: in the place of the gas expansion chamber of the M16, K2 bolt carrier has a cut slot. In this slot is inserted the rear part of the gas rod, with gas piston attached to the forward part of the gas rod. Also, K2 does not have the recoil buffer, that could be found in almost any M16/AR15 type weapons. The receiver is of folding design (upper and lower receiver are connected via 2 steel pins, like the M16 or FN FNC receivers). Charging handle is installed on the right side of the bolt carrier. The polymer buttsock is folding (to the right side of the weapon). Gas system has 4 positions switch - one position is for rifle grenades firing (gas port is closed completely), other 3 positions - for operations in normal conditions, in adverse conditions and in extreme heat.
The K1 is a cut-down, shortened version of the K2 with telescopic stock and shorter barrel.
Civilan, semi-auto version of the K2 is manufactured in two calibers: 5.56x45mm (.223) and 77.62x39mm, and is named DR-200 or DR-300, respectively

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as32-e.htm

http://www.impactsites2000.com/site3/class3_12.htm


http://home.earthlink.net/~dangerousdude/dae%203.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~dangerousdude/daewwoo%202.jpg

[Trebor]

Thanks for the info. I do have a couple more questions.

Is the DR 200 only available with the thumhole stock? This is current production, post ban, correct?

Are there any pre-ban semi variants available? What type of stock set up do they have?

Where the civilian semi-auto's always sold as DR 200's, or where any marked/sold as K-2's?

Thanks

Rob

[Amish]

The K2 is the pre-ban version. After the 89' EO, the DR-200 was imported. The K2 was sold to civilians and marked "K2". It's the same rifle as the standard issue ROK K2. Some preban K2 were marked MAX2 or AR-100; Different importers, different names. The K2 has a folding stock. The DR-200 was eventually banned under the Clinton 97' EO that prevents any rifles that can accept a hi-cap mag from being imported. You can consider them post-ban pre-bans. You can buy the stock conversion set for the DR-200 at riflestocks.com. It comes with all the parts needed to make it a legal conversion. Picture time!!! Here's my DR-200's.

http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/421460149/0.jpg

http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/421460149/1.jpg


Not mine, but a pic of a K2/AR-100

http://www.superiorgunsonline.com/A%20Gun%20Photos/July/7-15/ar%20100/MVC-001F.JPG

[son of a gun]

Trebor


Where the civilian semi-auto's always sold as DR 200's, or where any marked/sold as K-2's?

They sell DR300'S it's chambered for 7.62x39 and has a thumbhole stock, the thumb stocks were added to get around the elder Bush's 1989 ban.

where any marked/sold as K-2's

yes, all 223's imported before the 89 ban are k's

Are there any pre-ban semi variants available? What type of stock set up do they have?

yes any imported prior to the 89 ban, they have a pistol grip and a fixed or folding stock.

[Ian]

The preban K2s were also sometimes designated AR-100s.

The K2 (and it's postban cousins the DR200 (5.56) and DR300 (7.62x39)) are both gas piston driven, with 18" barrels. The K1A1 has a 16" barrel, telescoping wireframe stock (a la HK91) and a direct gas impingement system like the M16's. Both use AR15 mags (the DR300 uses goofy Frankenmags in order to fit 7.62 in a straight magwell).

Here's my preban K2:http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=1164427

[Amish]

Ian,

You just gave me K2 envy. Now I want to buy one. Let me guess. Stoeger imported it right? If i'm not mistaken they are the ones with the rilfes marked K2. I believe that IA Corp of Sacramento, CA marked their rifles AR-100. I have yet to see a rifles marked MAX2.

What do you guys make of the this box? What is up with the barrel lengths?

http://www.superiorgunsonline.com/00000/1/MVC-002S.JPG

[Trebor]

Great info guys, thanks!

I'll keep an eye out for a good deal on a DR 200, K2 or AR 100. It will be easier now that I know what I'm looking for.

What's the current going rate for the pre-ban K2/AR 100 and the post ban DR 200? I just need to know what's typical and what represents a good buy.

[son of a gun]

Does anyone have any theories why SK military dumped the M16 for it ?

[Amish]

For the K2 a price around $1200-$1300 is about right depending on the condition. A DR-200 costs around $650-$750 depending on condition.

I think that South Korea didn't think too highly of the M-16 so they didn't renew their contract with Colt. Daewoo was a licensed manufacture for the M-16. I personally like my DR-200's better than my AR15

[Beav]

Well I finally got my DR200 and I put the ACE stock set on it. The Ace grip was a bit of a pain as I had to file it down to make it fit flush. The rifle looks great and I can't wait to take it to the range.

One question: There is a little play between the upper and lower receiver towards the back of the rifle, towards the stock end. This is my first rifle, is this normal?

[Amish]

Why did you have to file the grip down? Mine fit perfectly. As for the loose back end, some are looser than others. You can try putting a Armalite NM oversized pivot pin in the front. I did that with my loose AR15 and it stabilized the back end too.