Who uses a compact .40 similar to the S&W Shield?


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FireInCairo
August 11, 2012, 06:48 PM
I was curious about how a light .40 caliber would handle. The M&P Shield is only 19 ounces. The grip is pretty narrow, too.

What are you using that's similar? How does it handle? Is it a real palm-pounder? Or can you shoot it with some measure of pleasure?

thanks in advance

by the way, I held a Shield today and I'm betting it's going to be a huge winner for Smith and Wesson. I liked the feel of it and it seems like it would be pretty nice to conceal and carry. My only concern was whether or not .40 caliber would make the thing a beast to shoot regularly. I'm not really interested in owning a 9mm (for various reasons).

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montgomery381
August 11, 2012, 07:21 PM
I carry a Glock 27 Gen 4. It is definitely not as narrow as the Shield but it is only 19.75 ounces, if memory serves. I won't say that it is the most comfortable pistol to shoot but I can put 100 rounds through it in a shooting session and not have it bother me. 100 rounds is what I usually shoot per trip regardless of which gun I am using.

NG VI
August 11, 2012, 07:28 PM
Seems to weigh the same as a 27. Not a super fun gun to shoot for hours, but not really that bad either, honestly if your frame of reference is polymer .40 pistols it's not all that different.

I imagine the Shield is probably about as heavy a recoiler as the 27, just a bit skinnier and so probably a little sharper at the same time.

kr8ter
August 11, 2012, 11:25 PM
I have a .40 PPS and a .40 SW99. I'm not sure if it's the way it fits my hand or the duel recoil spring, but the PPS recoils less. The grip of the SW99 is smother as well, friends complain about its recoil.
The PPS is not bad at all in .40, and you only give up 1 round to the 9mm.

mountainman95
August 12, 2012, 12:40 AM
I have the M&P 40c which is the double stack version of the Shield basically. I don't have any trouble at all with the recoil it. In fact, I prefer the 40 over the 9. I haven't been able to hold a Shield yet, can't find them anywhere around here. I would be surprised if the Shield was any more difficult to manage in 40 than the 40c is though.

ColdDayInHell
August 12, 2012, 12:46 AM
I have the SR9c and I love it, so the SR40c could be a choice for you. Ruger makes great guns so check them out as well as the Glock 27.

Dr_B
August 12, 2012, 02:47 AM
I've fired the 40c and l own a .40 Shield. I think they're very similar in terms of recoil and accuracy. The Shield of course feels different in the hand.

Dnaltrop
August 12, 2012, 02:53 AM
There's a .40 Shield mocking me 4 blocks away at the LGS. if I didn't have a timing belt to pay for on the car...

It does feel good in the hand and the price is right.

I honestly don't really like polymers in general, but ONE compact pistol in the collection wouldn't hurt, and I do respect how well my .40 M&P full size has served.

GlackAttack
August 12, 2012, 10:57 AM
The Kahr CM40 seems to fit your criteria, I believe it is smaller than the shield too. I've heard good things about the cm and pm series from kahr.

scaatylobo
August 12, 2012, 11:16 AM
I already edc a G-23 in .40 S&W.

But I own a G-27 in same caliber and its not as much fun to shoot,even though I can shoot a box w/o pain or flinching.

I got to shoot a lady friends S&W shield in 9 MM and I do believe that it would be NO fun in .40 S&W.

Due to the thin grips and the light weight.

I am a fan of that gun in 9 MM,in case your looking for a vote.

I say stay away from light weight .40's as they are not fun to shoot .

Meaning that you wont shoot it as often and therefore become as good with it.

If your young and tough as I once was,that might not be a consideration.

JO JO
August 12, 2012, 12:44 PM
40 xdsc works for me shoots well, 100% reliable

bikemobile
August 12, 2012, 01:58 PM
My .40 shield has a bit more muzzle flip than my 9mm shield. Neither one isrough onthe hands when shooting. The shields dont focus as much force on the hands as a .38 snubby does. 50 rounds of non +p in my jframe and my hand gets a bit sore.

FireInCairo
August 12, 2012, 02:55 PM
My .40 shield has a bit more muzzle flip than my 9mm shield. Neither one isrough onthe hands when shooting. The shields dont focus as much force on the hands as a .38 snubby does. 50 rounds of non +p in my jframe and my hand gets a bit sore.
That's really good for me to know. I used to own a 642 .38 and with the hard plastic grips I put on it it would pound pretty hard.

The_Armed_Therapist
August 12, 2012, 03:09 PM
Kahr CW40 here, probably a little smaller than the Shield. I've used all kinds of ammo with negligible differences in felt recoil. My first 100 shots or so were without the Hogue Handal (sp?) Jr. grip sleeve. After 3 mags, my hand would start to ache a little. However, with the Hogue sleeve (bought for 9.99), I can do several mags without any ache at all. It was mostly the checkering that was a problem and the rubber sleeve fixed that all up.

SteelManCM
August 12, 2012, 03:15 PM
I carry a Taurus PT740 Slim. It has a bit of a snap when fired, but more manageable than I could have imagined. Love it.

elde
August 12, 2012, 06:39 PM
.40 Shields would be nice if the mags didn't eject automatically after every shot. Mine's vacationing at S&W as are many others until they find a fix.

breacher
August 12, 2012, 07:29 PM
same here- I parted ways with my Glock 27 in favor of the PT740.
there are some reduced recoil (reduced power) factory loads on the market one could try if full power 40 cal ammo is too much for your smaller 40 cal pistol

beatledog7
August 12, 2012, 07:34 PM
I've been trying to decide myself whether to acquire a compact carry gun with a bit more firepower (not necessarily more rounds, just a bigger punch with each one) than my .38SPL J-frame, and since I can't see why I'd gain very much moving from a .38 to a 9mm (ooh, that's gonna irk some folks), it's down to which .40 it'll be.

I might just hold out for release of the .40 Nano, which Beretta says will be next year.

rem44m
August 12, 2012, 08:13 PM
Considering you get one that functions well (had a couple lemon glocks.) the glock 27 is the best as far as my opinion goes. if you go with a little bigger size the xdm 40 compact is my favorite 40 subcompact.

breacher
August 12, 2012, 09:19 PM
the baby Glocks are great but I already have a 19 and a 32 and really couldn't see much diff in concealability (sic?) going to the 26/27 size pistol.

the Taurus PT740 really is Slim. the outstanding trigger is a bonus as well.

Dr_B
August 13, 2012, 01:48 AM
" .40 Shields would be nice if the mags didn't eject automatically after every shot."

Not sure what that's all about. I have 400+ trouble free rounds through mine. Even shot it once in an action pistol side match.

Bush Pilot
August 13, 2012, 08:12 PM
There's a .40 Shield mocking me 4 blocks away at the LGS. if I didn't have a timing belt to pay for on the car...

It does feel good in the hand and the price is right.

I honestly don't really like polymers in general, but ONE compact pistol in the collection wouldn't hurt, and I do respect how well my .40 M&P full size has served.
I stopped by that LGS today and the gun was indeed mocking you, I can't repeat the language here. I'm pretty sure he was saying he'd be going home with some punk that didn't deserve owning one. If I were you I'd forego the timing belt and ride the bus for a few weeks.

ejfalvo
August 13, 2012, 08:16 PM
I have a Kahr CW40 and an XD40SC. The CW has more recoil, but not a challange to handle. The added weight (marginal) of the XDSC does make a difference. I carried the Kahr for 2 years and shot it weekly with no issues. It has however been replaced with an XDS.

jskibs
August 13, 2012, 10:32 PM
I just bought a gen 4 G 27. I was looking for a G26 but found a like new at a great price, at least for around here. They had a slightly cheaper gen 3 but I really liked the grip better on the gen 4. I've shot 40 in the past, never owned one, and was always put off by the snap i experienced although I never before shot the gen 4 Glock. I have to say I am pleasantly surprised at how soft the G27 shoots with a variety of ammo. Reason for the ramble is that a few prior posts criticize the G27 for recoil and I wonder if my experience is due to the difference in the gen 4 frame. It is a fat little beast, however, but I like it.

rookorami
August 13, 2012, 11:04 PM
I do not have one, but I know someone with a px4 storm compact that really likes it. I have put about a magazine worth through it and like it.

CPshooter
August 13, 2012, 11:56 PM
It is a fat little beast, however, but I like it.That literally made me laugh out loud for some reason. Just funny words to read I guess. The real funny thing is, Glocks actually aren't that fat at all. At least not the 9/40/357 models. They are thinner overall (both the slide and grip) than a XD, H&K, or Sig, despite what the specs might say online. They are also very size efficient in overall length and height. When comparing the Glock pistol to other brand in any given class of size or with a similar round count, you might be able to find a pistol that has it tied or beat in 1 of the 3 dimensions, but it will be darn tough to find one that has it beat in 2 or more. *edit* Forgot to mention this before, but you also get a longer barrel for any given class/size of pistol. Slightly better ballistic performance is never a bad thing, right?

The_Armed_Therapist
August 14, 2012, 02:32 PM
Glocks actually aren't that fat at all. At least not the 9/40/357 models. They are thinner overall (both the slide and grip) than a XD, H&K, or Sig, despite what the specs might say online. They are also very size efficient in overall length and height. When comparing the Glock pistol to other brand in any given class of size or with a similar round count, you might be able to find a pistol that has it tied or beat in 1 of the 3 dimensions, but it will be darn tough to find one that has it beat in 2 or more.

I've never said anything when the "fatness" or "blockiness" of Glocks comes up, but I've always had the same thoughts. I don't get the "fat" criticism. LOL... I tried CZ, Beretta, Taurus, S&W, XD, SR, etc, when I was shopping for my primary carry gun and most of them felt fatter to me than the Glock; thus, I bought the Glock. If you don't like it, then you don't like it; no reason to make up stuff about fatness. HAHA

jskibs
August 14, 2012, 08:25 PM
I wasn't really criticizing the G27 by calling it a fat little beast. I just think given the short double stack grip with the lowish slide, it looks kind of bottom heavy. It probably comes from comparison with its recently departed safe mate, a 4.5 inch XDM with its long grip and large slide. Whatever, I like my new G27. Fat guns need love too.

breacher
August 15, 2012, 02:11 AM
remember the rules-
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/5876/glockten.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/830/glockten.jpg/)

The_Armed_Therapist
August 15, 2012, 09:09 AM
LOL @ the rules. HAHA... I don't think anyone was arguing for Glock superiority in this case, though.

JustinJ
August 15, 2012, 09:34 AM
They are thinner overall (both the slide and grip) than a XD, H&K, or Sig,

I can't say for sure but i'm fairly confident the Glock 23 is not thinner than my HK P2000sk. I'll double check next time i go shooting with my father.

My P2000 is in .357 sig/40 and neither are too terrible although much easier with extended mags and grip insert. I have fairly large hands though so this probably helps.

CPshooter
August 15, 2012, 02:54 PM
I can't say for sure but i'm fairly confident the Glock 23 is not thinner than my HK P2000sk. I'll double check next time i go shooting with my father.

My P2000 is in .357 sig/40 and neither are too terrible although much easier with extended mags and grip insert. I have fairly large hands though so this probably helps.
No need to check. I have a Glock 26 (same width as 19 or 23) and a P2000sk on me right now. :-) The H&K slide tapers from thicker to thinner towards the top, but it is fatter than a Glock slide at its widest point without a doubt. Then you have the right-side slide release lever on the P2000sk creating additional width.

The grips are EXACTLY the same width at their widest point. If there is a difference, it's < 1mm. The edges of the Glock's thumb swells actually stick out a hair further than the rest of the grip, but it's so negligible that it is hard to even notice when looking at the gun. Overall, the P2000sk is fatter across more of its surface area than the Glock 9/40/357 models are.

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