1911 Drake Mfg National Match slide


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Ronniefromalabama
August 13, 2012, 02:18 PM
Looking through old boxes of parts that I intend to offer for sale, I came across a 1911A1 slide by Drake Manufacturing.

Researching the slide I find that it is rare and was built specifically for the Camp Perry competitions. This slide was only produced in 1964 and there were only 800 of them build, 195 sold to the civilian market.

It appears to me to have never been fired, but the outside "skin" is discolored and rusty. I don't believe it has any pits in the surface, just light rust.


I am headed this afternoon to a gunsmith to verify that the part is exactly what I think it is and if it is indeed in the condition I think it is and if it is a viable part for a gun.

It is in the original box.

My questions include:

Does anyone know if this slide was produced and sold WITHOUT being part of a gun? Since it is in a box........?

Was there only 800 slides made or was that totally assembled guns with additional slides manufactured for replacements etc.?

Given my descriptions above, what do you think the slide is worth?

Any one interested in purchasing it?

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DammitBoy
August 13, 2012, 02:34 PM
pics please

Ronniefromalabama
August 13, 2012, 05:50 PM
I have now let a professional gunsmith examine the slide and he tells me that it is 100% viable. In his opinion, the slide shows where a gunsmith started to fit it to a frame, but for some reason, it was never finished. He said that he would not hesitate to fit it to a gun and would expect it to be an excellent project.

The discoloration is because these parts were never finished originally. The were built especially for the 1964 National Match and not for looks. The slide does have some surface rust, but no apparent pitting. Otherwise it is in good condition.

I am uploading some pics if I can figure out how...

ApacheCoTodd
August 13, 2012, 10:25 PM
Does it have a drawing number on the left side?

Ronniefromalabama
August 13, 2012, 10:43 PM
Does it have a drawing number on the left side?
The right side of the slide is stamped, "Drake Mfg. Corp.". The left side is stamped, "NM 7791435".

I cannot find any other stamps on the metal.

However, there is a spot on the rounded part on the underneath of the front of the slide and a corresponding spot inside at the rear of the slide. Both spots appear to be in some kind of red colored shellac with the number "17" scratched in the shellac.

Hope this helps.

Ron

CmdrSlander
August 14, 2012, 05:35 AM
http://i56.tinypic.com/2rxws39.jpg

Here is a M1911 with a Drake slide. Compare/Contrast at your leisure.

Ronniefromalabama
August 14, 2012, 10:08 AM
My slide is, except for the obvious discoloration on the metal surface, identical to the one on your gun.

That having been determined, since you apparently are familiar with this piece, do you have any recommendations where I would find out if there is a market for my slide and what is its value?

Thanks,
Ron

ApacheCoTodd
August 14, 2012, 11:39 AM
Yup, that's the NM drawing number regardless of manufacturer. Cool find, that.

CmdrSlander
August 15, 2012, 03:52 AM
My slide is, except for the obvious discoloration on the metal surface, identical to the one on your gun.

That having been determined, since you apparently are familiar with this piece, do you have any recommendations where I would find out if there is a market for my slide and what is its value?

Thanks,
Ron

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Drake Slide National Match – Drake made slides only for use by the U.S. Army Marksmanship Unit to allow assembly of match guns. The 1964 National Match pistols are unique as it was the only year the armory used Drake slides which are specially machined and hardened. According to Springfield Armory records only 800 pistols were produced in 1964 (Considered to be one of the rarest and most desired variations) and only 195 sold to civilians through the DCM.


An example of the government-built pistols is the “Drake Slide National Match” worth about $1200 in 100% condition.
-From SightM1911.com

gyvel
August 15, 2012, 04:01 AM
Yup, that's the NM drawing number regardless of manufacturer

Question: Is that considered a drawing number or a Federal Stock Number? I was always of the understanding that those numbers placed on various components of .45s were Federal Stock Numbers, used for ordering purposes by military armorers.

ApacheCoTodd
August 15, 2012, 11:33 AM
((Question: Is that considered a drawing number or a Federal Stock Number? I was always of the understanding that those numbers placed on various components of .45s were Federal Stock Numbers, used for ordering purposes by military armorers.))


It's the "Drawing Number" and the FSN will be on the box as well as the wrapping in some cases.

You can see this one's FSN in the first photo.

For the U.S. service arms collector, it pays big to know the various drawing numbers of match components - 1911, Garand, M-14 etc... - to help avoid costly mistakes with knock-offs.

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