Need some .22 suggestions because my 22A two-pieced today (Pics)


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intercooler
August 13, 2012, 10:18 PM
It happened on the last three in a mag. I knew something was up when the grip rubber opened up on the last three. Pulled the barrel off and had a two-piecer :what:

I will contact S&W about it tomorrow and see if I can send it in but want a robust .22 now. A Steel frame or maybe revolver.

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RevDerb
August 13, 2012, 10:57 PM
Wow! Definitely call S&W. They should make it right.

TennJed
August 13, 2012, 11:06 PM
Ruger Single Six (or 10).

chris in va
August 13, 2012, 11:10 PM
CZ Kadet.

22-rimfire
August 13, 2012, 11:16 PM
I like the Ruger Mark II/III with the 5.5" bull barrel. I suggest you take a look at both the Mark II/III or 22/45 (with 5" bull barrel). I want to handle a CZ M75 Kadet some time. I suspect I will be buying one of these.

For a 22 revolver, it is hard to beat a S&W Model 617, 17 or 18. The full sized revolvers are quite robust.

Shame about the 22A. Hopefull S&W will do what is right. It should not break like that to put it mildly.

jfrey
August 13, 2012, 11:18 PM
Browning Buck Mark or Ruger Single Six convertable. Own both and couldn't be happier.

DeadFlies
August 13, 2012, 11:33 PM
Beretta Neos.

Built like a bank vault. Steel. Quick change barrels. Easy to mount optics. Cheaper than a Ruger or Browning.

Etc.

Pilot
August 13, 2012, 11:40 PM
Find a used Ruger MK II, or do the minor conversion to remove the lawyer crap from a new MK III. They are built like tanks, very accurate, and very reliable.

The gentleman that suggested teh CZ Kadet is also spot on. I have one, and it goes to the range everytime along with my MK II's. It is a great .22 in its own right, and quite accurate.

Weevil
August 13, 2012, 11:44 PM
Browning Buckmark.

The Ruger MK's are a good choice too, but having owned both I give the edge to the Browning. The extractor is the Ruger's Achille's heel.

Both are head and shoulders over any of the cutesy "tacticool" toys that are the current fad.

meanmrmustard
August 13, 2012, 11:45 PM
I like the Ruger Mark II/III with the 5.5" bull barrel. I suggest you take a look at both the Mark II/III or 22/45 (with 5" bull barrel). I want to handle a CZ M75 Kadet some time. I suspect I will be buying one of these.

For a 22 revolver, it is hard to beat a S&W Model 617, 17 or 18. The full sized revolvers are quite robust.

Shame about the 22A. Hopefull S&W will do what is right. It should not break like that to put it mildly.
Got one Sunday. Love it (22/45)!

intercooler
August 14, 2012, 05:01 AM
I went with this one through Bud's

http://www.ruger.com/products/markIIITarget/specSheets/10103.html

I will probably pop a fiber sight on the front later but the metal in this one should hold up!

Pilot
August 14, 2012, 08:53 AM
The extractor is the Ruger's Achille's heel.


How so? My four Ruger MK II's never have extraction problems, and if they did the extractor is easily replaced with one from Clark or Volquartsen.

Oldnoob
August 14, 2012, 10:58 AM
Wow.

SW40
August 14, 2012, 11:22 AM
Hi OP,

If you like Smith and Wesson and want to stick with them, check out the M&P22. My friend has one and he loves it. Its not a target pistol but its great for plinking.

I highly recommend the Ruger MkIII 22/45 or the Browning Buckmark. Both are solid as a rock and are backed by great companies. You can get a Ruger MkIII 22/45 with 5" Bull Barrel for under $300 brand new. They come with a rail that you can put on top for a red dot scope or a small rifle scope or what ever you want to put on it that has picatinny mounts. Its optional but comes with the firearm. There are tapped holes already there. Just take out the screws and put the rail on.

bannockburn
August 14, 2012, 11:45 AM
Definitely consider a Ruger MK. II, Browning Buckmark, or a Beretta Neos as a possible replacement for your S&W 22A.

Pilot
August 14, 2012, 12:08 PM
Guys, the OP bought a Ruger MK III. Great choice, but now remove the mag disconnect, and the LCI, and you'll have a very nice shooting pistol. Yes, I know many shoot well with those parts in tact, but it does make for potential problems.

coalman
August 14, 2012, 01:08 PM
MKII or Buckmark.

jogar80
August 14, 2012, 05:10 PM
If you want the toughest, I would say go with a Ruger. I wouldn't give up on S&W though. I had a 22A that had a similar failure. S&W had it back to me like new in a week, VERY fast.

foghornl
August 14, 2012, 07:45 PM
I'm not familiar with that model S&W, but that should NOT break. Probably some sort of fault in the metal.

intercooler
August 14, 2012, 09:24 PM
I'm sending it in then selling. The Ruger target should be here next week.

316SS
August 14, 2012, 10:31 PM
I bet there's more to this story ... were you shooting reloads? :scrutiny:;):D

intercooler
August 14, 2012, 10:56 PM
No reloads on .22LR.

I actually had been shooting 40gr. CCI Blazer which is just standard bulk.

Research says S&W has some issues with these frames:

http://gunnuts.net/2009/06/19/smith-wesson-22a-recall/

http://s614.photobucket.com/albums/tt228/VegasChris/Kaboom/

Theirs more out there. I'm liking Steel guns these days!

stinger 327
August 15, 2012, 01:47 AM
A Smith & Wesson 10 shot Model 617 is solid like a hunk of metal and well made won't blow apart.

Weevil
August 16, 2012, 01:32 AM
How so? My four Ruger MK II's never have extraction problems, and if they did the extractor is easily replaced with one from Clark or Volquartsen.



Well mine did.

Had to replace the extractor on a MK II and a 22/45 MK II due to fail to extract issues.

The very fact that Clark and Volquartsen make "improved" aftermarket extractors for the Rugers should tell you something.


No company has ever found a market for "improved" extractors for the Buckmark that I know of.

stinger 327
August 16, 2012, 01:35 AM
Those 617 Smiths are very well made and put together.

hi-tower
August 16, 2012, 11:29 AM
"Beretta Neos.

Built like a bank vault. Steel. Quick change barrels. Easy to mount optics. Cheaper than a Ruger or Browning.

Etc."


I second this. Great gun and shoots very well all the time

Furncliff
August 16, 2012, 12:37 PM
Ruger convertible six for a single action revolver that will shoot Lr and Magnum.

CZ Kadet either the stand alone Kadet or the conversion kit for the CZ 75/85 pistols.

Used... a High Standard. One made in Ct after about 1960 (some of the earlier ones don't like HV ammo). These will have triggers that spoil you for other rim fire pistols. All steel, very accurate. Prices from $325-900.

stinger 327
August 16, 2012, 12:44 PM
Ruger convertible six for a single action revolver that will shoot Lr and Magnum.

CZ Kadet either the stand alone Kadet or the conversion kit for the CZ 75/85 pistols.

Used... a High Standard. One made in Ct after about 1960 (some of the earlier ones don't like HV ammo). These will have triggers that spoil you for other rim fire pistols. All steel, very accurate. Prices from $325-900.
NAA has those mini revolvers, the Mini Master that shoots both .22 LR and .22 Mag. Has interchangeable cylinders.

imoXu
August 17, 2012, 12:15 AM
Serious question. WHy dont people ever suggest a Model 41?
Is it the price or is there another reason?

I really like mine but its the only .22 I have so I dont have much to go on.
Certainly a much better pistol than the 22A, although the only 22a Ive shot was a club gun in poor condition.

So why not more Model 41 love.
or is it because its not hard to click the safety into position by accident?

intercooler
August 17, 2012, 05:49 PM
They cost a bunch and are really heavy. Not that heavy is a bad thing and to be honest I don't know how hard parts are to get for them these days. $1000 for a .22 unless you have a real purpose for it is kind of nuts.

Dentite
August 17, 2012, 10:02 PM
imoXu:

I personally would love a 41. What's kept me from buying one...cost alone. Can buy three nice Ruger MkIIIs for the same price.

Others might be drawn to more modern polymer type .22s. That's not my style but there seem to be fewer people who appreciate polished blue and wood these days. Personally blue and walnut is right up my alley.

Maybe one of these days I'll get a 41 but I have other holes in the collection to fill first.

Pilot
August 18, 2012, 05:37 PM
WHy dont people ever suggest a Model 41?
Is it the price or is there another reason?


For me it is grip angle. I have pistols costing as much or more than the M41, so why it is a lot of money, if you are going to compete or do serious target shooting $1K isn't really that much. Think Pardini, Benelli, Hammerli, etc.

However, for about half the cost of a M41 you can buy a Ruger MK II Target, and add a few Volquartsen or Clark parts and have something just as accurate. So yes VALUE, maybe more than cost is an issue.

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