New Glocks shipping with 10 round mags?


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Sapper771
August 15, 2012, 04:07 PM
I was in one of my LGS yesterday. Looked at a Gen4 G19. When I dropped the mag to show clear, a ten rounder came out. I asked the owner why it had a 10 round mag instead of the 15 round mag that normally come standard (TN). He said that is the way all new Glocks are coming now.

Anyone else heard/seen this?

With all the scare tactics most shops in my area are doing ("cant get ammo, cant get AR/AK/SKS....better buy my stuff before you cant!"), I dont know who to believe. I figured that his distributor had a model G19 for a ban state and he bought it.

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rcmodel
August 15, 2012, 04:13 PM
Don't think so unless it is a State Law thing.

http://us.glock.com/products/model/g19

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/13711/Glock+19+9mm+15RD+FS

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/73204/Glock+19+Compact+9mm+Auto+Fixed+Sights

rc

ljnowell
August 15, 2012, 04:23 PM
I used to see that trick all the time. Usually its a gun shop guy with a few or a bunch even of low cap 10 rounders. He will take the new gun, swap the mags and then sell the hi-caps for twice what the lo-cap mags sell for. I even had one guy give the ol'
"ill give ya 10 bucks off each hi cap for each lo cap you trade in to me!" What a rip off. I offered to go home and grab some old crappy 10 rounders and trade in a couple to get a free hi-cap. He didnt like that idea for some reason.

Sapper771
August 15, 2012, 04:27 PM
I figured I would check. He did say that he just got it in Monday.

Sapper771
August 15, 2012, 04:35 PM
lj,

Been seeing a lot of dirty tricks here lately. Plus, I cant go into a local shop without hearing trash. Sad.

dogtown tom
August 15, 2012, 05:09 PM
Sapper771 I was in one of my LGS yesterday. Looked at a Gen4 G19. When I dropped the mag to show clear, a ten rounder came out. I asked the owner why it had a 10 round mag instead of the 15 round mag that normally come standard (TN). He said that is the way all new Glocks are coming now.

Anyone else heard/seen this?
He's correct........when a dealer orders a certain SKU# his Glocks will ALWAYS come with ten round magazines.

If he doesn't want ten rounders, he orders a different SKU#.....then his Glocks come with standard capacity mags.

Apparently he ordered his Glocks with the ten round SKU.;)

Be aware that distributors will often be out of stock on popular models or the stock will be "allocated"...........and the only Glocks in stock will be those with ten round mags.





ljnowell I used to see that trick all the time. Usually its a gun shop guy with a few or a bunch even of low cap 10 rounders. He will take the new gun, swap the mags and then sell the hi-caps for twice what the lo-cap mags sell for. I even had one guy give the ol'
"ill give ya 10 bucks off each hi cap for each lo cap you trade in to me!" What a rip off. I offered to go home and grab some old crappy 10 rounders and trade in a couple to get a free hi-cap. He didnt like that idea for some reason.
Every Glock box has a label that describes how many and what capacity mags are included in that box. If the label says "2 15rnd" and you see two 10rounders...........someone swapped out your mags and it wasn't Glock or the distributor.;)

Ash
August 15, 2012, 06:01 PM
Back when CZ-75 Military pistols came in, during the ban, with a 15 round and 10 round magazine, many dealers took the 15 out and sold it separately. It's their right, they are selling a product, but it was pretty low all the same.

HorseSoldier
August 15, 2012, 07:02 PM
Be aware that distributors will often be out of stock on popular models or the stock will be "allocated"...........and the only Glocks in stock will be those with ten round mags.


That's how it was with the Glock 20SF I bought a while back. The version that shipped with 10 round mags was all my local gun store in AK could get from their wholesalers. They did throw in an extra, full capacity, mag with the pistol when I bought it, though.

HOOfan_1
August 15, 2012, 07:22 PM
I used to see that trick all the time. Usually its a gun shop guy with a few or a bunch even of low cap 10 rounders. He will take the new gun, swap the mags and then sell the hi-caps for twice what the lo-cap mags sell for. I even had one guy give the ol'
"ill give ya 10 bucks off each hi cap for each lo cap you trade in to me!" What a rip off. I offered to go home and grab some old crappy 10 rounders and trade in a couple to get a free hi-cap. He didnt like that idea for some reason.


I wonder if you dropped word to the manufacturer about that if they have some words with the distributors to blacklist a store like that. It gives the manufacturer as much of a black eye as it does the gun store.

guyfromohio
August 15, 2012, 07:36 PM
Yep.... shady. He's stockpiling for when the hi-cap bans return.

bannockburn
August 15, 2012, 07:54 PM
A little different but several years ago when I picked up my Steyr M9, there was only one mag with it, even though there was a cut-out in the plastic case for a spare. Asked the clerk who was handling the sale and he said that they all came with just one mag. Took it home and while reading through the manual I found the contents section which clearly stated that the gun came with two mags. I called the current importer who gave me the number for some distributor who eventually sent me my spare mag.

So either the factory wasn't including the spare mag, or somewhere along the line, the importer or distributor or the retail outlet was helping themselves to it for a little extra profit.

Sapper771
August 15, 2012, 08:29 PM
Yep.... shady. He's stockpiling for when the hi-cap bans return.

I had a shop call me and ask if I was interested in a used rifle magazine for $45. I about choked. I told them no, that I could get them NIB for $8 less. They didnt want to haggle, they just said that they would hold on to it in case of another AWB.

I was in the market for a Walther PPQ. I found one of the upgraded models (threaded barrel, night sights, and three mags) at a local shop. I asked to see the factory hard case. I only found one spare mag in the case. I asked the guy where the third mag was. He explained to me that they only come with two. I told him that the standard model came with two, this model comes with three. I asked him to get out his distributors catalog, he said that he couldnt.

I told the guy that I would buy it if it had the third mag . He said he had a spare magazine that he would cut me a deal on. On their accessories rack hung a single factory Walther PPQ magazine in an unmarked plastic ziploc bag. The price of $55 was wrote on the bag with a sharpie marker. :what:

dogtown tom
August 15, 2012, 09:12 PM
bannockburn ...there was only one mag with it, even though there was a cut-out in the plastic case for a spare....

This doesn't mean the dealer or distributor removed the magazine.
Quite a few manufacturers ship with only one mag, yet their cases have cutouts for spares.

mgmorden
August 15, 2012, 09:29 PM
This doesn't mean the dealer or distributor removed the magazine.
Quite a few manufacturers ship with only one mag, yet their cases have cutouts for spares.

Yep. Its cheaper for them to use the same case for all models and not all versions come with the same mag count. Glock's for sale the civilian market come with 2 mags. Glocks meant for LEO apparently come with 3.

Similarly, the "premium" Kahr pistols (like the P9, TP9, PM9, etc) come with 2 mags vs the budget ones (CW9, CM9) that only come with 1.

As to the dealer - as stated he probably just ordered the 10 round version. You can buy those in "free" states - you just can't buy the hi-cap versions in the other ones. If you look on Buds for example they usually list both versions. Sometimes the hi-cap version is out of stock and you can settle for the 10-round or wait.

When I bought my S&W M&P 9L for example it was the 10-round version. The gun was hard enough to find as it was so I just got it and later purchased a bunch of hi-cap mags for it.

ljnowell
August 15, 2012, 09:37 PM
Every Glock box has a label that describes how many and what capacity mags are included in that box. If the label says "2 15rnd" and you see two 10rounders...........someone swapped out your mags and it wasn't Glock or the distributor.

I have pointed that out in the past, they dont like that either.

I wonder if you dropped word to the manufacturer about that if they have some words with the distributors to blacklist a store like that. It gives the manufacturer as much of a black eye as it does the gun store.

Never thought about it, I just dont do business with the guy.

bannockburn
August 15, 2012, 10:05 PM
dogtown tom

I know that the spare mag cut-out doesn't necessarily mean that it comes with two mags, just made me kind of think that maybe there should have been one there. When I found the contents listing that Steyr had it with an extra mag, I knew something wasn't quite right. The importer made good on it through their distributor so everything worked out okay.

CZguy
August 15, 2012, 10:39 PM
Hey, I'm just happy to find out that somebody else likes Steyr M9s. Very underrated pistol.

hentown
August 16, 2012, 08:41 AM
I always figured that the guy behind the counter at a gun shop would be on my side of the counter, if he were as smart and well-informed as I. :evil:

Byron
August 16, 2012, 07:33 PM
I live in TN and my gun store is On Target in Murfreesboro.All their Glocks come with high capacity magazines,even used ones.They are honest people.

coalman
August 16, 2012, 08:45 PM
He said that is the way all new Glocks are coming now.

He lied to sell you the gun, or does not know what he's talking about. He was likely sent the 10rd version (by his mistake or his distributor) and is trying to get rid of it. Or, trying to make money on reselling the mags. Shady whichever IMO and my money would go elsewhere.

drewzfoster
August 17, 2012, 07:41 PM
I had Dave's Guns in Urbana, il keep the extra mag from a new FN hi power I bought from CDNN. Didn't figure it out until later....won't go back.

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