Looking for a 9mm pistol to have as a self defense/plinking gun?


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isaacdavis1214
August 18, 2012, 02:06 PM
Hey everyone i am now looking for a 9mm pistol,i have the .50 cal muzzleloading rifle that i last posted about but lets be honest it is NOT a good self defense gun by any means.

My buddy said that there is a Jager or Yager? 9mm pistol for sale up at one of the local pawn shops,he said he could get it for me for $100.Not sure of the quality of these guns but he knows the guy at said pawn shop.Is there any brands of 9mm pistol i should look out for?I would like to use it as both a plinking gun and to have something lying around the house in case someone breaks in (hopefully not) i would have something so atleast we are on equal footing.

Looking forward to what you guys recommend,and before i forget i have $150to spend.

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rcmodel
August 18, 2012, 02:24 PM
The only 9mm pistol I would even consider for that price range would be a Hi-Point.

There is nothing else made worth buying that would sell for $100-$150, unless it was stolen..

I have never heard of a Jager or Yager? 9mm pistol.

rc

tarosean
August 18, 2012, 02:30 PM
Id guess I would have to agree with, RC. Not real sure of anything else in that price range.

Stay away from Bryco, Jennings, Raven, Phoenix if you stumble upon one. A good knife would be more useful.

WinThePennant
August 18, 2012, 02:54 PM
Save your money and buy a NEW and inexpensive 9mm from a trusted name. You can get a Smith & Wesson Sigma 9mm for around $300 *NEW*. The Sig Pro can be had for around $370 *NEW*.

Normally, I do not advocate buying used handguns since people tend to sell their problems. But, I make an exception for used LEO Glocks. Great guns can be had for less than $400, many of them as good as new.

isaacdavis1214
August 18, 2012, 03:18 PM
Not sure about the Hi-Point,i have heard some people say they suck and others appear to love them.I know there lifetime warranty is great but i'm still not sure.Was mainly wondering if there is a used good handgun at a pawn shop that might be going around $150,if not i guess the Hi-Point is the only option for now unless i save up my money a bit more,thanks for all the replies so far.

smalls
August 18, 2012, 04:48 PM
The used Hi-Point will be better than anything in your price range. You're pretty much at the bottom of the barrel at that price range.

My advice is to save up a few hundred bucks, then start shopping.

Once you get to $300 you'll find a few decent guns, but you're still not going to find much. But deals are out there if you look.

The_Armed_Therapist
August 18, 2012, 05:21 PM
Don't touch any gun named Jager. If we've never heard of it, it's either junk or super high quality. At $100, well... enough said.

Keep saving up. For $250, you'll have a few decent options. At $350, you'll have several good options. Don't settle!

VAgunner
August 18, 2012, 05:22 PM
Not a 9mm para but you might be able to find a used CZ82 in that price range.

Yelovitz_503
August 18, 2012, 05:33 PM
I've heard nothing but bad things about Hi-Point pistols and carbines, and the few I've used have lived up to that reputation. If it were me I'd recommend waiting and saving up some more money so you have more options. I saved up $700 before I bought my first pistol, and got a really nice CZ75B new. Trust me, it's worth the wait to get something that you'll still have and love to shoot two, three, or ten years from now. I agree you shouldn't settle, and I also agree most 'good' pistols you'll find for $100-$150 will either be stolen or have some major problem waiting for you when you first shoot it. Jager pistols (at least the ones I've found out there) are all really old and I wouldn't bet my life on something that (no offense) looks like a piece of crap (this applies to Hi-Points as well IMHO). If you can stand the wait you'll end up with something much better, but ultimately it's up to you.

Nushif
August 18, 2012, 06:29 PM
I've shot a Hi-Point carbine and their "compact" 9mm. Both functioned just fine. Most people who own them seem to like them well enough. But let's face it, they're no LesBaers.

Still though I would say to save your money, especially since you plan on using it to plink and getting something more "likeable" ... like an early gen Glock for instance? Or something along those lines.

Noah
August 18, 2012, 11:07 PM
My Dad had a Hi-Point .380, it was Ok. 95+% reliable, no real problems, it was a $150 gun. Low capacity, very heavy. He sold it for a 9mm Hi-Point pistol... bad move. It would fail to feed or the slide would stick over a third of the rounds we "tried" to fire. Based on that, I would not recommend a Hi-Point pistol. You might get lucky like my Dad's .380. Or you'll get a big heavy lemon.

We have a Ruger P95, $325, fantastic gun :) . 27 oz, 15 round, SA/DA 9mm. Kel-Tec P32, $225, decent mouse gun, 100% reliable if IMO underpowered. Kel-Tec PF-9, my Dad's new carry gun (he sold his HP 9mm) it's been good as well. Was like $250.

I had the privilege of shooting a Jiminez Arms .380. Fail to something 75% of the time. Recoil so bad my Dad hit himself in the face. :barf:

If this is a gun for Home Defense, not carry, maybe look at an H&R or Norinco 12 gauge pump? My H&R is fantastic. I paid less than $150, easy to get for under $200. A lot more power than a handgun, cheaper, and you can shoot a deer with it if you want... But if shotguns aren't your cup of tea, so be it.

My brother had a 9mm Hi-Point Carbine for 7 or 8 months. It was $275, we all really liked it. Zero failures or problems in 500+ rounds. He sold it to help fund his babycakes, his AK-74 Saiga. Now that's a gun... :cool:

TimboKhan
August 19, 2012, 12:01 AM
Oh, you can get good stuff used. Just be careful and make sure you know what to look at (and there are about a million good articles at will inform you in that regard).

Honestly, despite lots of hatred towards them, a good Taurus 99 can usually be found cheap, and they are good pistols. Same with the Ruger p series. A new SR9 is less than 500. Lots of good choices out there

isaacdavis1214
August 19, 2012, 01:33 AM
Thanks for all the replies everyone,a shotgun would be nice although i much prefer the compactness and looks of a pistol.Unless it is a break open double barreled shotgun (but they are expensive),i will look and see what they have for sale when i go to the pawn shop.

Furncliff
August 19, 2012, 11:46 AM
You could start with the Hi Point. The company has a very good reputation for their no BS guarantee. I have a HP carbine, it's reliable. But I would save up another 50-75 dollars and buy one of the surplus CZ82's. Fun to shoot, smaller than the HP, reliable. Mine is accurate with cheap Brown Bear ammo.

If you need service on it CZUSA has an excellent gunsmith dept..

Just one of the places to buy these.
http://www.jgsales.com/handguns-c-16_155.html

dondavis3
August 19, 2012, 12:20 PM
If you want a quality self defense gun ...

You'll have to spend a lot more that $100 .. unless it's stolen.

:cool:

coolluke01
August 19, 2012, 12:31 PM
Skip the handgun for $150 bucks. Wait until you have about $300 and buy a used gun.

For now for home security buy a cheap shotgun.

edfrompa
August 19, 2012, 01:53 PM
Get a CZ 75 duty firearm. Great firearm, and not very expensive. $375. to $450. range. It comes in 9mm.

isaacdavis1214
August 19, 2012, 02:36 PM
Thanks guys,i believe i'll save up and see what i can get at the $300 price range.

LeonCarr
August 19, 2012, 02:49 PM
Truth be told, muzzleloading rifles have probably been used more for self defense than all of the handguns combined. The OP should not completely discount his .50 Muzzleloader if he gets in a jam :).

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

carbonyl
August 19, 2012, 03:02 PM
Thanks guys,i believe i'll save up and see what i can get at the $300 price range.

In that case get a P95 or a Sigma. I have a 95 with thousands of rounds through it and never an issue of any type. It was a tad over 300 for the stainless. I believe you can get the blued model for under 300 NIB.

dondavis3
August 19, 2012, 03:21 PM
The CZ P07 Duty is a good suggestion

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx67/dondavis3/Guns/CZ75-P07Duty.jpg

It's a wonderful high quality gun IMHO

I just gave my Grandson one for his 1st gun.

He's been shooting the tail off of it & loves it.

:cool:

SharpsDressedMan
August 19, 2012, 03:44 PM
Truth be told, muzzleloading rifles have probably been used more for self defense than all of the handguns combined. The OP should not completely discount his .50 Muzzleloader if he gets in a jam .

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
I don't think this is accurate. Way more handguns at the ready today than all the muzzle loading rifles ever made. The population today (over the era of the muzzle loader) and the proliferation of handguns sees to that. And just being "at the ready" constitutes a form or defense.

easyg
August 19, 2012, 04:54 PM
and before i forget i have $150to spend.
You might be able to find a used Ruger P95 for around that price.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/allenXdog/HPIM6391.jpg

There's not bad guns.
Very reliable and very durable.

Or you could save up some more money and get a Ruger SR9, which is a better pistol in my opinion.

dondavis3
August 19, 2012, 04:58 PM
Or look at the 3rd Generation S&W 5906 in 9mm

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx67/dondavis3/Guns/SW59069mm.jpg

These were used all over the USA as police guns.

CDNN has them in good condition for around $300

They are great guns.

My advice ... buy high quality brand "used" guns ... do not buy junk guns for self defense.

:cool:

el Godfather
August 19, 2012, 05:13 PM
For $100 i would buy ruger if possible as some one stated otherwise for that price i would just go have a nice dinner and forget a out these toys.

srtolly
August 19, 2012, 05:15 PM
While I agree to save your money and get a good gun off the bat, don't discount the HiPoints. I have a JCP (.40 s&w) that I started using for USPSA. Had a bad mag when I got it but called Hipoint and had a new mag in a couple days. 400 rounds since with only 2 feed issues. I also have a C9 with 300 through it with 0 failures, sights were dead on out of the box.

WinThePennant
August 19, 2012, 05:44 PM
I'm sorry, but I just can't imagine why someone would buy a Hi Point when you can get a S&W Sigma for $300. Hi-Points go for, what, around $180? Just kick in another $120, and you have a fine handgun.

Really, folks, there is nothing wrong with a *NEW* Sigma for the budget-conscious buyer.

coolluke01
August 19, 2012, 06:11 PM
don't they still have the worst trigger ever?

WinThePennant
August 19, 2012, 06:17 PM
don't they still have the worst trigger ever?
Does a budget conscious buyer worry about that? Of all the choices out there for $300, it's hard to beat a Sigma. Besides, the trigger can be modified.

Seven High
August 19, 2012, 06:25 PM
I would contact all of my friends and tell them what I was looking for and my price range. You might get lucky and find something acceptable to you.

Nushif
August 19, 2012, 06:30 PM
To be honest when I shot both a Sigma (not really sure if new or not) and a Hi-Point here's what I noticed:

The Hi-Point had the better trigger. Hands down. Shorter, more crisp and way less "schproingy."
The Sigma had better well ... everything else. 8)

[edit]
Oh yeah, and neither jammed or failed.

coolluke01
August 19, 2012, 07:10 PM
Even if you are budget conscious it doesn't mean you can't have a good weapon and avoid crap. A used higher quality gun would be a much better option than a new low end gun.

DavidMS
August 19, 2012, 07:59 PM
I know that CZ82s and Yugoslav M57s can be had for ~200. Or just wait until you save up a little more. Guns are durable goods so spend a little more up front as everyone else has mentioned. I like designs that have been on the market for awhile or have been used by military and police forces because they have had whatever issues present in the initial design or manufacturing process resolved.

When I bought a handgun, I picked up a ex German police P6 for ~400 ex transfer fees and then replaced the sights to be able to shoot accurately. There will always be some surprise issues.

Also, I have heard good things about Bersa but extra magazines are expensive.

MedWheeler
August 19, 2012, 08:27 PM
You mentioned you might consider a shotgun instead for home defense. A new NEF Pardner Pump in 12 gauge comes in under a buck and a half, and a used Mossberg 500 for just over that. Single-shot models go for even less but, as you noted, side-by-sides go for substantially more.

isaacdavis1214
August 20, 2012, 12:45 AM
Thanks for all the suggestions everyone.I looked online and a couldn't find a new NEF Pardner 12 gauge shotgun for $150.From what i know 12 gauge ammo isn't cheap but i wouldn't be doing too much plinking with the shotgun,that's what my .50 cal muzzleloader is for (i'm almost afraid to shoot it,nicest gun i've ever owned is the .50 cal).Also another thing,if i use a pawn shop or gun shop for the gun to be shipped at does it cost me more than the sticker price of the gun plus whatever the shipping is,I.E. does said shop charge a fee to have it shipped to them?If so might try to get a single shot shotgun as they are cheaper,and i will probably shoot less ammo and a single shot shotgun is pretty cool by itself.I have some Break Free Powder Blast and am going to get Break Free CLP,the CLP is for my muzzleloader but wondering if this will work for the shotgun or pistol as well?What should i buy as well in the way of patches or cleaning accessories for a shotgun?Are they easy to disassemble?I know most pistols don't require tools and are relatively easy to take apart (depends on the pistol of course.)

wow6599
August 20, 2012, 12:51 AM
Even though I'm not a big fan (trigger) of the Kel-Tec P11, they are reliable and can fill a couple of roles pretty well. I would think you could find a gently used one around $150.

Skylerbone
August 20, 2012, 01:31 AM
For used, you might consider a Makarov, a Rossi or a Taurus revolver. The revolvers will cost more to feed but if bought used will probably retain more value. The other possibility is a .22 lr. like the Ruger Mk series. You'll save a truckload of money shooting it and with near zero recoil you can put a lot of rounds on target accurately if need be.

If you're considering saving for something better I'd suggest spending what you have on good door locks, a bright mini flashlight and a can of mace. You can pocket the light and mace everywhere for added safety. Better than coming home to a stolen muzzleloader and pistol while budgeting for a small safe.

Noah
August 20, 2012, 11:01 AM
There's no need to shop online for a shotgun, or many handguns online. The FFL you ship it to about always charges $25 for the transfer, and you will be paying maybe $15-$30 for the shipping from the website as well. IMO, buying guns online is for guns that are hard to find, not trying to get a better deal.

Dick's Sporting Goods by me is selling Mossberg Maverick 88's with 18" barrels for just $199.99 right now, so maybe $210-215 after taxes. 12 Gauge ammo is not too pricey, birdshot for pests and practice runs about $5.50/25, compared to $10-13/50 for 9mm, so about the same. A handgun is semi automatic, so you'd probably be shooting more with it as well, so I'd dare say that ammo cost is a draw or in the shotgun's favor. Buckshot is $5/5 if you are lazy, and can be had online (try Sportsman's Guide, I'd suggest Fiochi Reduced Recoil 00BK) For like $6/10.

You chose a good time to buy a gun- Save up your money until Black Friday, get up at 5 AM, and head to your local big sporting goods store and get a Norinco/H&R/maverick pump for $150-$180.

Other, maybe better option- use google maps and search out all the Gun Shops within 50 miles, and then spend a day running around checking things out. I'd say 99% chance you could get an H&R single shot for under $100, or a pump shotgun for under $200. I you have the money saved, you can compare the feel in your hand of various handguns in the $300-$450 range- lots of good choices. Try Ruger P95, S&W Sigma, S&W SD9VE or SD9, CZs, Sig SP2022, Ruger SR9, ever Rock Island 1911s. You could look for used S&Ws, Glocks, and such for that price too. Pretty much any of those will last you a really long time, and many of them are light enough for IWB carry if you're interested.

tarosean
August 20, 2012, 11:47 AM
One shotgun that is typically under your budget is a used mossberg 195k variant. Its a bolt shotty with a 2 round mag in order to give you 3 shots for hunting.. It's big, ugly and most importantly cheap.. Typically you can find them from 65 to 120.00

isaacdavis1214
August 20, 2012, 12:39 PM
Thanks for the suggestions everyone,i know Wal-Mart here sells shotguns but i'm not sure exactly what or for what price.The local gun shop here only sells new guns and his shotguns start around $265!

Water-Man
August 20, 2012, 12:49 PM
Get a nice, used S&W Model 10 .38spl from BudsGunShop.com for $269.00.

GLOOB
August 20, 2012, 03:00 PM
You might be able to find a used Ruger P95 for around that price.
I wish I were that lucky. Ruger P's, Sigmas, and SVE's are super cheap. But seems like they sell for 99% of the initial price even when used!

The Bersa .380's are also pretty nice, IMHO. They can be had new for around $270, and are a good size for CCW.

buckskinbob
August 20, 2012, 06:40 PM
Before you buy junk. Remember its your life that may be on the line. good luck bob

GABulldog
August 21, 2012, 12:10 AM
Try the Taurus PT709 Slim. I've had mine about a week. Fed it a couple of hundred MagTech FMJ rounds. 100% reliability and decently accurate. I paid $300.00 new. I'm totally pleased with it as a primary carry.

isaacdavis1214
August 21, 2012, 12:40 AM
That Taurus looks like a very beautiful gun.I am going to save my money up,i should have close to $300 by next week,so hopefully i will be able to find something decent in that price range.I tried another gunshop close by and they said their shotgun's start at $250-60 and 9mm pistols at $270,this is new of course.

WinThePennant
August 21, 2012, 12:46 AM
Actually, you sound like a perfect candidate for a Sig Sauer P250.

It's commonly called a "starter gun."

It's modular. You can upgrade to different sizes (full, compact, subcompact) and different calibers (.380, 9mm, .45, and .357 Sig).

Depending on the variation you choose, you can buy one for as low as $360.

mljdeckard
August 21, 2012, 12:53 AM
Discount the hi-points.

Eat some mac and cheese, buy a better gun. I just bought my wife a like-new Springfield Armory XD 9mm for $300, and we are both madly in lust with it.

savanahsdad
August 21, 2012, 01:16 AM
For used, you might consider a Makarov, a Rossi or a Taurus revolver. The revolvers will cost more to feed but if bought used will probably retain more value. The other possibility is a .22 lr. like the Ruger Mk series. You'll save a truckload of money shooting it and with near zero recoil you can put a lot of rounds on target accurately if need be.

If you're considering saving for something better I'd suggest spending what you have on good door locks, a bright mini flashlight and a can of mace. You can pocket the light and mace everywhere for added safety. Better than coming home to a stolen muzzleloader and pistol while budgeting for a small safe.
I think you ment pepper-spray , as mace is a big no no !! in some states , here you will go to jail if you have mace on you , pepper spray is ok but it must be carryed open , without a perment

TAKtical
August 21, 2012, 01:31 AM
I would save your money. I went down this road a long long time ago. Got a hi-point, hated it, then went all out and got a kimber but I had nothing but problems with it. Bought a used glock 17 for $350 and now Ive had it for 7 years with no problems. Police trade in glocks can be had for very little $$$ so thats what I would look for.

clang
August 21, 2012, 12:36 PM
Lots of good recommendations here.

Unless you are reloading, ammo is not exactly cheap anymore. You are going to spend almost $15 for a box of ammo. If the budget is really tight, I recommend you prioritize what is more important - self defense or plinking.

If you live in a scary neighborhood then get a good cheap pump shotgun (Maverik, Pardner, used Massberg) and a couple of boxes of 12 gauge ammo. Even the cheapest birdshot is deadly at inside the house range, and buckshot can be purchased in a 5 pack for a few dollars.

If things are relatively safe where you live, a .22 pistol will serve you much better for inexpensive plinking. A used Ruger MKII, Single Six, S&W 22, etc. in .22 lr will be fun to shoot, accurate, inexpensive and help develop your hangun skills.

isaacdavis1214
August 21, 2012, 12:47 PM
Thanks everyone,something i didn't consider before but it is obviously very cheap to shoot and has killed people before (although it's not recommened as a Self Defense round.) is a .22 LR pistol,what do you think about these?If i don't get that i will have enough by next week to buy a new shotgun for around $265,just not sure how easy a shotgun is to take apart as i have never owned one.

Edit: just now saw the post by Clang,the more i think about it the more plinking is more of what i'm looking for,as you said ammo is not cheap and i still need to buy a rod and patches (maybe a cleaning brush?) for whatever gun i get on top of ammo.I already have some Break Free Powder Blast and will be buying Break Free CLP here soon,so i have that covered.

I am going to see if the local gunshop here has a Beretta U22 Neos as i like the look of those guns,and i would prefer a pistol rather than a revolver in .22 (although either would suffice.)

Skylerbone
August 21, 2012, 01:27 PM
Pro Shot makes a great little compact cleaning rod with a detachable T-handle. Use a t-shirt for patches and a small bottle of oil will last a long time.

The Neos is a fun little plinker but the top rail is pinned in loosely. If you buy, keep an eye on those pins. Mine were walking out till I LocTited em in place. If you enjoy hunting, a Ruger 10/22 rifle can be had for about $200 even. Not a handgun but easy to handle and multipurpose.

FireInCairo
August 21, 2012, 01:47 PM
Maybe a used Ruger LC9? They're easy to conceal, they're well-made, they handle pretty nicely considering how small they are, and they're accurate.

You could probably find one used for under $300 bucks. I just picked one up and I'm really impressed with it. Yes, it has a long trigger, but I've felt worse. Mine is still accurate despite the long trigger. It's a keeper.

isaacdavis1214
August 21, 2012, 02:13 PM
That is some good suggestions,i'm still torn now between a .22 pistol and a 12 gauge shotgun,looked online and i believe 100 Federal Ammunition 12 gauge 3 DRAM ammo is about $5-$10 or so.And that is 100 12 gauge shells,that should last a bit considering your not going to be firing a 12 gauge 100 times at a range.Atleast i'm sure i wouldn't be lol.And the local gunshops both have 12 gauge's for $260 or so new,also if i buy a gun new does it have to be cleaned in any way?

What i'm asking is is there any oil from the factory that is on new guns that has to be taken off before you can fire it?And should you clean a shotgun or .22 pistol every time you get done firing it?Thanks.

EDIT: I also have 100 General Purpose Cleaning patches that are 2 1/2'' in Diameter and they work great in my .50 caliber Muzzleloader,not sure if they would work in a 12 gauge shotgun or not.On the back it says they work well with .45-.54 caliber Black Powder and .375-.45 caliber Centerfire,so not sure if it's big enough to fit the barell of a 12 gauge.

coolluke01
August 21, 2012, 04:38 PM
Most like to clean packaging oil off and add a good lube to a new gun.

Double up your patches and they may work for a 12 ga.

I shoot my handguns several times a month and about 1500 rounds a summer. I've cleaned my G34 twice. It's not a bad idea to clean guns after shooting if you are going to let them sit for a while. Otherwise, clean them every few months.

In your situation I would start off with a simple 12 ga for home defense. Then buy a .22 when you can. It's a great plinking caliber and the guns are not very expensive. I've had my ruger 10/22 for 15 years and it's never given me any trouble.

Kymasabe
August 21, 2012, 08:51 PM
Forget about hi-point. I have one and I use it to wedge my office door open on breezy days, they're worthless crap and I'm not about to bet my life on one if needed.

My suggestions for your price range would be find a nice used Ruger like an 89 or 95...or.... a used 3rd gen S&W. I just picked up a CS9 for under $300, you can find decent S&W's for under $300.

ohwell
August 21, 2012, 10:06 PM
Been a long time since I've seen 100 rounds of any shotgun ammo for 5 to 10 bucks. Your best bet if your budget is that limited is a 22. Makes no sense to buy something you can use for both a plinker and home defense if you cant afford to shoot it. Pick something that has the most important purpose to you. A 22 is a cheap to shoot plinker, at minimum for home defense you should have a 380 or 9mm.

Sig Bill
August 21, 2012, 10:10 PM
I have a Sigma 9mm and a Sig P250c 40sw. Both had over 1200 rounds through 'em and no problem whatsoever. The Sigma was $300 new and the Sig $400 new so they're not a bank buster. As an aside I shot nothing but USA ammo with 'em (whatever I can find at Walmart LOL).

The Sigma has a hard trigger but it's a wide trigger and has an ergo grip so it's really a comfy gun to shoot. The trigger gets better after use but can be made better by a little grease on the sear cam as it rides on the plastic housing. It's what I did mine and made it a lot smoother.

The P250 has very little moving parts and that's what made it reliable. It's a good design and by being modular using the FCU (firing control unit) the grips, barrels and slides are all interchangeable in three sizes. Also it has a long but easy trigger similar to a revolver.

Both of the guns are double action only just like a revolver (but cannot be cocked as a single action) and there's no external safety features on them. The safety are in the triggers.

isaacdavis1214
August 22, 2012, 12:39 AM
I'll see what i can buy for $300 next week.Going by what this person said back in December (Whoops) he paid $5.47 for 25 rounds (double whoops).I have enough money to spend in order to feed either a 9mm or a 12 gauge shotgun.There is two gun shops here,their prices seem about the same but i will check them both out next week and will hopefully walk out with a new gun!

isaacdavis1214
August 22, 2012, 05:28 AM
I would like to add the 9 mm pistol my buddy was talking about isn't a Yager or jager it is a Yazmin/Jazmin?Not sure how it's spelled,but he pronounced it Yazmin or Yazman.

One_Jackal
August 24, 2012, 01:42 AM
I would prefer a Hi Point over a Kel tec, hands down. If you can save a few bucks the Ruger P95 is a great gun. My Dad has a Sigma. I don't like the trigger but it is reliable.
If he is talking about a Jimenez Arms 9mm, I would pass. I own a JA-22 that is one of the most reliable pistols on this planet but their larger caliber stuff sucks. You can make the guns work but you can't fix the plastic sights and other annoying problems. Jimenez Arms is the only pistol maker that sends an extra plastic sight in the box.

isaacdavis1214
August 24, 2012, 03:16 AM
Thanks for the tip,i'm just going to buy a brand new gun albeit a pistol or shotgun.I am still weary on how hard it might be to disasemble a shotgun though.I need to buy a cleaning kit and later on some bore brushes and maybe a bore snack for whatever firearm i get.But i hope the gun shops i visit have a 9mm pistol for around $300,the gun cleaning kits at Wal-Mart don't cost much (not the best quality i know,but they will serve fine for now.)

One_Jackal
August 24, 2012, 07:28 AM
You can get a universal cleaning kit for less than $20. A pump shotgun can be overwhelming the first time you clean it. Reassembly isn't that bad! If you just reassemble the parts in the order shown in the directions it will be a breeze. You can get a new reliable pump shotgun under $200. You can even put em on lay away. I put a Colt AR15 on lay away at wally world.

isaacdavis1214
August 24, 2012, 12:46 PM
I looked at a video on youtube of a guy disassembling a Mossberg 590 pump action shotgun it didin't look to bad but i am a clumsy person and i am not very mechanically inclined lol.I'm sure i could get the hang of it though after a bit of trial and error.I'm still wondering why the Shotguns of the two gun stores around here start at $260 and $265?Inflation or possibly a different brand than what Wal-Mart sells?

I'll see by next week that's for sure,they MIGHT have a brand new 9mm they want to sell for $300?Probably not though lol.

isaacdavis1214
August 25, 2012, 01:07 AM
Just wondering what shotguns i should be looking for in the $260-$300 price range new?I believe shotguns at Wild Will's (one of the gun shops here that only sells new guns) have shotguns that start around the $265 price range.

isaacdavis1214
August 25, 2012, 03:07 PM
Hey guys here is one of the guns that should be in my price range,from Wild Will's gun shop (one of the gun shops around here.) and it is a 9mm

.http://www.davidsonsinc.com/consumers/subsites/inven_product.asp?dealer_id=706786&item=400424&instock=all&manufact_combo=None&mod_ser_combo=None&category_combo=None&model=None&g_type=None&act_type=&finish_type=None&calib_combo=None&sight_class_combo=None&price_range=%24200+to+%24300&left_handed=&youth=&Offset_rec=0&num_rec=100&item_num=

Is this gun any good?It appears he would have to order the gun,also here is a inventory search of what he has or can order in the $200-$300 price range,does anybody see any guns i should keep an eye out for?Or maybe have him order?Thanks.

http://www.davidsonsinc.com/consumers/subsites/inven_sql.asp?preview=&manufact_combo=None&category_combo=None&price_range=%24200+to+%24300&mod_ser_combo=None&g_type=None&finish_type=None&calib_combo=None&sight_class_combo=None&num_rec=50&instock=all&offset_rec=0&b1.x=47&b1.y=15

dondavis3
August 25, 2012, 05:19 PM
@ isaacdavis1214

It's a EAA gun - I've owned 2 of those (different models) than the one you're looking at.


They were excellent guns for me.

:cool:

isaacdavis1214
August 26, 2012, 12:47 AM
Thanks Don,i tried to go up there today but they were closed =( will try again on Tuesday,hopefully they have that gun in stock!

BLB68
August 26, 2012, 02:37 AM
The Bersa Thunders have a pretty solid rep, too. Worth looking into. The price seems a little bit higher than around my parts, but not too bad.

Either the Bersa or the EAA should serve pretty well. Pick whichever feels/fits better in your hand.

kbbailey
August 26, 2012, 09:09 AM
I just visited a relative who has a Bersa thunder9 UC. I really liked the gun. 13rd capacity. He says it's a good shooter.

isaacdavis1214
August 26, 2012, 12:53 PM
Thanks for the recommendations,i'll see what he has when they open back up om Tuesday.Hopefully he has the above mentioned guns in stock.

isaacdavis1214
September 13, 2012, 10:23 PM
Hey everyone i went and bought a new Hi-Point .40 S&W for $189 a few weeks back,it went bang everytime i pulled the trigger but i personally hated it and am now selling it to a friend(lessoned learned.) so i was browsing the local gun stores today and stumbled on one i haven't been in,they had some used Glocks (appeared to be in very good or excellent condition) for $425,and they also had what appeared to be a used PT111 Millennium Pro this one appeared to have a stainless steel slide,it was 9mm also in very good to excellent condition for $240,would this gun be worth it or should i save up to $500 for a brand new Glock?What is everyones experience been with this gun?Thanks.

Sig Bill
September 13, 2012, 11:13 PM
What is it that you didn't like the Hi-Point? The gun itself or the 40sw?

mdThanatos
September 13, 2012, 11:19 PM
I would save up for the Glock instead of paying for the Taurus. Not saying that Glock is end all be all of pistols but they have a better track record, for me anyway, than Taurus does. What model Glocks were they by chance?

Okiegunner
September 13, 2012, 11:23 PM
Since 1981 I have bought and sold firearms. Realisticly, for $150.00 you are not going to be able to purchase anything "decent" new (arguably, other than a hi-point. (Ugly as a man's a*s, but seemingly very functional).

A "very" used Ruger P95 might come close to this pricepoint.

However, I would attempt to save another $150.00 and buy a new P95. They are built like a tank and should last and shoot long after you and I are both in the grave.

Our great grandchildren should enjoy them

Gunner

isaacdavis1214
September 13, 2012, 11:28 PM
What i didn't like about the Hi-Point was the Hi-Point itself,i mean it's a great truck gun,but it just wasn't ''worth having'' in my opinion,not knocking anyone who has a Hi-Point.Like i said the gun went bang everytime i pulled the trigger but just isn't my cup of tea i guess.The 40 S&W round is nice nothing against it,but if i had to choose i would probably choose a 9mm as it is cheaper to buy and shoot.
Dangit i knew i forgot something...and that is to ask what type of Glock or what gen of Glock they were,i am ASSUMING they were Gen 3 Glocks,might have been Gen 2....i'm honestly just not sure lol.Guess i got caught up in the awe factor of just holding one lol.

Edit: thanks for the suggestion OkieGunner,i get paid this Saturday and will have around $385 give or take a little after my check comes in so i will definitely look into the gun.

Noah
September 14, 2012, 07:32 AM
$385? Ruger P95, S&W SD9VE. The Ruger is a SA/DA, the S&W is a "Glock type" striker fired DAO. Both can be had after taxes and maybe 200 rounds of ammo and a box of hollow points for $385 out the door.

I have a Ruger that's been great, it's a fantastic no frills gun. Only read good things about the S&W. Ruger has a lighter trigger, the Smith is a lighter gun! :D Personal preference between the too, it'd probably be easier to find a Ruger though.

A tad off topic, but for ammo I'd recommend ordering bulk online at Sportsman's Guide. 250 Speer Lawman 115 gr 9mm for like $61 right now. You can buy Wolf or Brown Bear imported for maybe $50/250, but in my personal experience the US ammo is worth the small cost increase.

isaacdavis1214
September 14, 2012, 02:36 PM
Sounds like good guns Noah,i'm thinking of saving up though and either buying the Glock for $420 next week or getting a new Glock for $500,i will have enough by next Saturday for either one....the problem is staying patient lol.

DeadFlies
September 14, 2012, 03:45 PM
What i didn't like about the Hi-Point was the Hi-Point itself,

but it just wasn't ''worth having''

but just isn't my cup of tea i guess.



Hi-Points work, but you don't want to bring them home to meet your parents. ;)

Kiln
September 14, 2012, 04:55 PM
IMO the Hi Point C9 is alright but I'd avoid any of the larger models. Not that they won't work fine and last as long as the C9, my issue is that they are much larger and feel like a cordless drill in your hand.

coolluke01
September 14, 2012, 06:14 PM
Be patient and wait for the more for the used glock. Depending on the condition you might be able to get it for less than the $425 they have it listed for. The used Glock is going to last for a very long time. I wouldn't worry about betting a new one. It will be used as soon as you pull the trigger anyway.

isaacdavis1214
September 15, 2012, 12:47 AM
Yeah i really liked the Glock they had up there,from what i could tell (i didn't take it apart.) it looked to be in very good condition.The name of the place the Glock was at is called Village Gunsmith,Gunshop and Police Supply so i'm guessing it is a police trade in gun,although i could be wrong.Should i be worried the Glock is just priced at $425 or is that about right for a used Glock?I'm thinking of offering them $409 since i got paid a little more than i thought i would this week...hopefully they bite,i know it's $16 less than what they have it for but you never know.

nazshooter
September 15, 2012, 02:11 AM
With a quality gun like Glock (or Ruger etc) there's nothing wrong with used. These things will easily last a lifetime.

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nazshooter
September 15, 2012, 02:16 AM
Most gun shops around here are more than willing to negotiate, especially on used. My guess is he paid less than $350 for it and will happily take $400.

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isaacdavis1214
September 15, 2012, 03:10 AM
I hope so,i guess i'll find out later on today if he will or not.

isaacdavis1214
September 23, 2012, 01:31 PM
Hey everyone,i have saved up my money for a new Glock 19 being sold here by a gun shop that sells both new and used guns (best of both worlds i think.).But i won't be able to get the gun until Monday because apparently the place that does background checks is closed on the weekends,has anyone ever heard of that?I didn't personally go myself as i was at work,so i'm not sure what generation Glock it was.I'm guessing though it is a generation 3 or 4 though,the price for the gun after taxes,background check ect. is $564.24 does that seem like a good price?The only problem is waiting another day to get the gun!What can i say,i'm impatient lol.

WinThePennant
September 23, 2012, 03:14 PM
Probably a Gen 4. If you are getting 3 mags, then it's a Gen 4.

GREAT DECISION, by the way. Glock 19 is one of the all-time great handguns. You'll love it!

I'm so happy we helped you make a wise decision.

isaacdavis1214
September 23, 2012, 11:13 PM
Yep i agree,thanks WinthePennant and everyone else.Wished i would have saved up in the first place and got the Glock,but i learned my lesson.Good things do come to those who wait!Can't wait to get this gun tomorrow!

isaacdavis1214
September 26, 2012, 12:44 AM
Hey everyone i got the Glock 19 yesterday,was going to post earlier today but the forum was down.The 19 i got was a Gen 3 not a 4 which is fine for me,the gen 3 has been around longer and there is a lot of accessories for it.I believe my gun was manufactured...or atleast test fired on 2/09/12 going by what is on the envelope that came with the gun.

I have a question about the rod and brush that came with it,i have heard the bore brush sucks,but i am wondering if the rod that came with it will be fine to clean the gun with as long as i buy a brass brush for it?Also what is the threads for the rod that comes with Glocks?It might say what the threads are in the paper work that came with the Glock but i honestly haven't read much of it.

nazshooter
September 27, 2012, 11:48 PM
Congrats! I'm sure one of the Glock owners can answer about the brush. From what I've seen they seem pretty standardized, at least I've never had any trouble with random brushes bought at gun shows fitting my old Hopps rod.

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coolluke01
September 28, 2012, 12:09 AM
I use the supplied brush with no problems.

Hoppe's #9 will take most anything out.

Make sure and watch videos on youtube about proper lubing. It hardly needs anything. You shouldn't even really see any lube on it.

isaacdavis1214
September 28, 2012, 02:06 PM
Thanks everyone,i have saw videos on youtube,and it's crazy just how little lube this gun needs!I think it needs a drop (literally a drop) of lube on ech rail of the frame and that's it,if i'm remembering correctly anyway.This gun feels great in my hand i will say,the only bad thing is i spent all my money on the gun.So now i won't be able to shooti it until my next paycheck....oh well,the local walmart was selling 100 rounds for $20,that's already 50% cheaper than the .40 S&W rounds i was shooting,i believe they were anywhere from $20 to $25 for just 50!

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