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MJRW
January 31, 2003, 12:49 PM
I'm at the NRA range on my typical thursday night shooting my typical bad groups with my typical firearms. A long time friend and shooting friend of the past year or so is about 15 minutes late. Two older gentlemen (using both of those words loosely) arrive. One man sets his case down way toward the back wall, right by the window the the staff/shop area. He takes his lever action out and is holding it horizontally while moving around and rummaging through his stuff. I look at the staff and they are waving at him.

I'm watching this waiting for the staff to come out which I expect any second. Its not my business, in my opinion. My opinion changed when I could see down his barrel. I walk over there and say "sir, please take that to the lane or put it in your case."

"What?"

"Please immediately take that to a lane or put it in your case."

He then ignores me. I have no idea what my next reaction was to be. I've tried being polite about it. And it seems no matter where I move, he ends up pointing it at me or someone. I tried to block the movement of the barrel of the gun by standing in the way of his swing. He was persistent in his stupidity, though. While pondering whether to ask him again politely, getting more forceful, and partially considering grabbing the barrel, a Range Officer made it out there.

The range officer thanked me and in all seriousness, these range officers aren't as mild mannered as they appear. In a very strict and forceful, former LEO, I-will-club-you-with-your-rifle-if-need-be tone, yet not rude tone the Range Officer got him to case it and take it the lane.

Later on, my friend is shooting next to these guys. I am talking to my friend when that damned rifle is pointed at me again but this time he cycles the action. In all seriousness, there have been not been many times when I have wanted to beat the stupid out of someone this much.

Fortunately a range officer had posted himself behind this guy and forced the rifle into the case which was I believe not allowed out again. He was informed that one more infraction would lead to immediate and permanent expulsion from the range. He left in a huff a minute later.

The range staff thanked me again when I was leaving. I told them normally it isn't my business and they do a great job of standing watch and so forth and I wouldn't get involved, but when its pointed at me, it automatically becomes my business.

P.S. The implications of grabbing someone else's barrel is what prevented me from doing so. I was pondering the monstrous stupidity and trying to gauge his reaction to having his barrel grabbed. At what point is it "screw it, this thing needs to stop swinging" acceptable?

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dev_null
January 31, 2003, 12:58 PM
:eek:

I must've left by then. I hope. (Lane 5, the Kimber .45 and SIG .380, from 5:00 - 5:40 pm).

-0-

MJRW
January 31, 2003, 01:00 PM
Yeah, this happened some time between about 6:30 and 8:00. Sorry I can't be more specific =(. It wasn't a very boisterous event, just monumentally stupid.

Smurfslayer
January 31, 2003, 01:04 PM
A couple of weeks back, I was at another local range, which I'd rather not publicly name (it really wasn't their fault). In the next lane were several people, all but 2 of which were obvious newbies. The experienced guy was behind the lane, handling his Glock. Not to the degree of seriousness you describe, however, I got swept once, immediately moved for safer areas. It was quite crowded, and, as a result, loud.

The guy saw me make the obvious move, and I shot him my sternest disappointed look, retook my lane and resumed my 'draw from the holster, 2 aimed shot drills'. He was more careful for the rest of the session, but I did keep an eye on him. Turns out, he was wearing some sort of badge. It should've read 'Incompetent gun handler'.

After I retook my lane, I resolved that if it happened again, I would call a cease fire, and at least try to be polite but firmly ask them to not do that again.

Everyone's there to have a good time, but the good time ends when ignorance or carelessness mixes with gun handling.

soonershooter
January 31, 2003, 01:11 PM
I would hope that if you had to grab his barrel he would be too embarassed to make a scene. Sounds like the range officers would have sorted it out fast enough to keep it from leading to anything else. I would risk the implications of grabbing a barrel rather than risk the "implications" of being shot at close range with a 30/30.

PATH
January 31, 2003, 01:47 PM
You are too polite! I would have used unnecessarilyfoul language
and told him in no uncertain terms that if he pointed his firearm at me again I would use it as a colonic inspection device!:fire:

I hate being frightened unnecessarily!

10-Ring
January 31, 2003, 02:04 PM
Man, I hope it's the same guy I saw at the range I frequent! I'd really hate to just imagine that there is more than one idiot out there allowed to possess firearms! :what:

Mike Irwin
January 31, 2003, 02:45 PM
I threatened to shoot a young punk at a range I was at some years ago.

He kept panning me with the muzzle of his LOADED semi-auto. After I told him about it twice, I think it was a game

I kept telling him about it, and I finally just blew a gasket.

The owner/range officer saw it, though, and hustled the kid out.

BerettaNut92
January 31, 2003, 03:05 PM
Man, I hope it's the same guy I saw at the range I frequent! I'd really hate to just imagine that there is more than one idiot out there allowed to possess firearms!

Are these the clowns that were there the night I came up and visited? :eek:

Last time at my range, some guy's buddy is shooting so he walks around to check out what other people are shooting, WHILE HOLDING HIS GLOCK IN HIS HAND ARMS CROSSED.

I wasn't CCWd but I had my hand on my knife :rolleyes: and him in the corner of my eye the whole time.

larryw
January 31, 2003, 03:51 PM
Had a near Darwinian experience this morning. Was at the rifle range and while chatting with the range officer, a man grabbed the bench between me and the RO. He uncased his rifle, pulled out his ammo and then proceeded to look down the muzzle to check for obstructions.

RO saw me :what:

RO turned around and politely said, "Sir, there's an easier and safer way to do that" and pulled the bolt.

With the RO standing right behind him and me deciding this was a good time to get off the line while my barrel cooled, he shot half-a-dozen rounds and then cleared out. Guess that was enough shooting for this year.

El Tejon
January 31, 2003, 04:09 PM
This happens at private ranges as well. Moron points pistol at MPFreeman and me to show us the frontsight on his Glock. (I did not hurt him, no matter what my brother tells you).

As well, one time, at gun camp, a moron brought a cheap Uncle Mike's holster to skul. He continually kept attempting to use the muzzle of his Glock to reopen the holster. Why one would spend major coin on a class and then bring cheap gear is beyond me. Of course, why morons do not do us the favor of shooting themselves is beyond me as well.

spacemanspiff
January 31, 2003, 05:40 PM
boy i bet ya'll would love to shoot with me in the next lane. i always take things slow, and work very hard to make sure my barrel only ponts downrange.

throughout my life, i've never really cared one way or another what the people around me thought of me, or if they respected me. but since i took up shooting and visiting the range, i've begun to want other gunowners to respect me just like i respect them. and that starts by behaving in a mature, responsible manner.

DVNovum
January 31, 2003, 05:44 PM
Two years ago I was at a large public range here in the Houston area teaching several Boy Scouts how to shoot .22 rifles. There were 3 grownups and 7 boys 11 to 14 years of age in our group. We had been there about 30 minutes when a group of scruffy looking young men of an Asian persuasion in the 18 to 23 year age bracket came up and took over several of the benches next to us. They had several cheap versions of the AK style assault rifles in their position and lots of 30 round mags. As they set up it was obvious that they had very little experience with their firearms. While uncasing the rifles they swung the barrels in all directions. The ever present range master came over and told them to lay the guns on the bench and only point the muzzles down range. They did this for a while. In the mean time we moved our group over about 4 shooting stations. After the next cease fire they posted their targets and when we resumed shooting they proceeded to stand in a line and unload their 30 round mags as fast they could pull the trigger. Needless to say our kids were unable to concentrate on their shooting. The range master once again came over and told them that rapid fire of this nature was prohibited at the range. They laughed at him but began firing in a more reasonable manner. The next time I looked up I noticed one of these hoods standing there cradling his AK in his arms with the barrel pointed in our direction while watching his buddies shoot. I walked over and asked him to either case his gun or lay it on the bench. I won’t repeat what his response was, but when the range master came over I told him what had happened he told the hood to lay the gun on the bench and step away from it. I returned to my bench and we resumed shooting, but I kept a watchful eye on those guys. It wasn’t 10 minutes later when another one of them was standing there with his barrel pointed in our direction. I started over there but the range master beat me to them and he forced that guy to lay his gun on the bench then he came over and told me he would keep an eye on them. I told him that he should ask them to leave because someone was going to get hurt. He agreed but said he had to go the office and report the problems before asking them to leave. I told him that if they pointed a gun in the direction of my kids again they would be looking at the business end of a Kimber .45. He cautioned me not to do anything drastic and left to go to the office. After he left they started making crude jokes about the fat Mexican, me. I ignored them until one of their “stray” rounds hit our target, from 5 shooting positions over. I slowly turned and they stood there laughing at us. I told everyone else in my group to go get in their cars. The shooter stood there with his smoking gun pointed in our general direction as he laughed and sneered what are you gonna do about it old man? Now I was pissed, but I smiled and casually walked in their direction. The shooter stood his ground as his buddies slowly backed up behind him. I walked up to him and looking him in the eye, I grabbed his barrel that was pointing at my legs and shoved it up toward the top of the shooting lane cover. Then before he cold finish asking me, “Hey what the hell do you think you are doing?” I shoved the barrel of my Kimber .45, that I always wear concealed, tightly up under his chin. When I clicked off my thumb safety you could have heard a pin drop because all action at the shooting benches had stopped. Then looking back at his buddies I told them that if they didn’t beat it to their cars or if any of them made the slightest move in the direction of their guns I was gonna decorate the range line with their buddy’s brains. That is when a heard someone behind me say, “And if he doesn’t do the job right we’ll do it for him!” as 2 other shooters that had been shooting their AR15s a little further down the line stepped up next to me with their barrels pointed up at the top of the shooting lanes but leaning towards the hoods. The shooter’s buddies looked at the 3 of us and took off for their cars. I turned to the shooter and asked him, “How brave do you feel? If you’re smart you’ll follow your friends and we will leave these guns at the range office for ya’ll to pick up later.” He let go of the AK and turned to run after his friends. Then they sped off in a cloud of burning tires, exhaust smoke and profanities. We wrote down their license and called the cops. It turned out that every one of the AKs had been stolen and the police were able to pick the car’s owner who later ratted out his friends who admitted to a string of robberies and burglaries in the area.

Loach
January 31, 2003, 07:24 PM
Good gravy DVNovum!!

When it comes to idiots like that, sometime that sort of action is the only thing they'll respond to. I applaud your bravery and control of the situation and I very glad that it all ended well.

Pendragon
January 31, 2003, 07:39 PM
self defense still applies at the range.

reasonable behavior is required, but if you are being swept, that is assault with a deadly weapon.

I would not hesitate to grab a muzzle and twist it down if it was necessary and threatenint and shootng someone is not off the table. I was reading that and going :what: the whole time - very well handled.

BerettaNut92
January 31, 2003, 07:42 PM
Good going, fat Mexican!! If I make it to Texas I owe you a bottle of soju. Thanks for taking out the trash.


--Skunk of the Asian persuasion aged 18-23 ;)

Braz
January 31, 2003, 07:59 PM
:what:

Don't mess with Tex-Mex! That's the scariest range story I ever hear. Glad everything worked out for the best. Liked the part about teaching kids proper gun handlling too. Whew. Are you a Cop? If not, ballsy. I'd like to have you at my back anythime.

PS: Hit the Space key every once in a while. I usually skip walls of text posts, but yours was a page turner. ;)

mgjohn
January 31, 2003, 08:21 PM
Several years back at a local range I had almost the same thing happen, but with out any range officers. A couple of young guys in their early 20's showed up and was shooting skeet off of a portable thrower. The owner of the shotgun ignored repeated requests to keep the barrel pointed down range. Guy ended up having a AD and almost shooting his friends foot off. I took the shotgun away from him, unloaded it and stripped the barrel off. I then bent it in half and and asked him to leave before I got mad.

Handy
January 31, 2003, 08:22 PM
Consider using caution when grabbing the barrel of a recently rapid-fired weapon.

Keith
January 31, 2003, 08:23 PM
Excellent!

I made the point in another forum that crime in general is prevalent because most people will simply not step up to the plate and confront it when they see it. That thread was about two guys blatantly stealing some game that someone had just shot.
Anyway, I made the point that people like those thieves are able to go about their business because we have been taught to never confront such things - call 911... I said the guy should have confronted them, or at least followed them and ID'd the vehicle.

And just about everyone disagreed with me - ignore it, it ain't worth the risk, call 911, too much testosterone...

This situation is similar. Our friend DVNovum could have chosen to walk away, but he didn't and... some gang bangers are taken off the street. What were they going to do with those AK's? Is someone alive today because one man just said "No"?

Well done!

Keith

HABU
January 31, 2003, 08:45 PM
Another thing to be thankful for: uneventful range sessions!:D

Travis McGee
January 31, 2003, 10:13 PM
I usually go with the polite "If you sweep me with that gun again, I'm going to shove it up your *** so far you'll need surgery to get it out."

And I'm not kidding either. I would. I don't brook that kind of dangerous idiocy. No second chances. Swee me once, hear the riot act, period.

Travis McGee
January 31, 2003, 10:19 PM
DVNovum:

!!!!You rock Hombre Gordo!!!!

Tamara
January 31, 2003, 10:39 PM
Repeat after me:

(Said in very calm, level, serious tone, with lots of sincere eye contact) "If you laser me with that muzzle one more time, I am going to take your gun away and beat you to death with it."

If you're feeling exceptionally polite, you can add a "Thank you." ;)

St. Gunner
January 31, 2003, 11:31 PM
Used to shoot at a range near here, had a membership and got some special privelages because we shot all the time. So one day we are on the pistol range which stretches to 50yds shooting slugs at silos and some buckshot and such. I have an 870 along that day in sythetic stocks. Some not so nice looking fellows arrive with their pistols, baggy pants, and colors and decide to shoot, we are at one side of the range on the 50yd line and they decide to walk to the 3yd line to shoot. I catch em going that way about 3 round through 7 in the gun and as they are crossing the 15yd line. I ceasfire and asked em what they are doing.

So we decide to be nice we normally have it all to ourselves and decide to shoot up close, so I start practicing headshots with a .22 I was carrying alot at the time. After about ten minutes I turn to see these guys getting ready to open up with an AK from the 50yd line, i'm at the 3yd line. I left posthaste and decide to say something, well they meet me about halfway down the line to see if we could trade out some shooting, me shoot their ak and them my 870. Well the leader is a little rat about 95lbs, so I offer him the 870 first with a 3" 1 1/4oz slug and tell him to put it on the center and squeeze. It may have been the most unpleasant experience of his life, since he held it sorta like you or I would a chipmunk .22 about an inch or two off his shoulder so it wouldn't kick him to bad. Well I caught the gun before he dropped it after the shot, but he went home for the day.

I'm thinking about getting a 10gauge single shot, taking off the pad and keeping it around for when people like that show-up, "here ya go, shoot a man's gun":D

I have become anti-social, I don't go to the range, built my own here at the house and just shoot here. I don't have to worry about anyone but me then. If I invite anyone over I just tell em the big pit where I took the dirt for the berm from is a mass grave and if they paint me, they go in it. ;)

Zundfolge
February 1, 2003, 12:12 AM
somebody down in Tejas buy ole DVNovum a cerveza for me ;)


Only thing I can see you did wrong was leave out the paragraph breaks :p

Mark Benningfield
February 1, 2003, 12:37 AM
Hello All.

The worst one I had was a few weeks ago at the range in town (OKC). The kids and I were turning a fair amount of my money into noise and smoke when this kid (20-something) came in with a half-dozen of his buddies (newbies) to shoot his pre-ban AR-15. Cool gun, BTW. Anyhow, my oldest was shooting his new .30-30 and I was standing behind him when I glanced over and saw one of this guy's buddies in the lane next to us sweeping us with the muzzle. My first instinct was to draw and fire since he had a gun pointed at my son, but I leaned over and grabbed the muzzle and forced it downrange and yelled "muzzle!!" in the guy's face, while keeping my strong hand on my P97DC ready to draw. Well, he looked at me like I had two heads or something and his buddy (the gun owner) jumped up and said "Sorry, we'll be more careful," which I figured was a decent response. So, I figured I'd be nice and give them a heads-up about it, and said "If you point that gun at me or my kids again, I WILL shoot you." By this time one of the guys that works at the range had arrived behind me and said, "And if he doesn't, I will." Unfortunately, I think the newbies enthusiasm was somewhat diminished after that.

jmbg29
February 1, 2003, 12:55 AM
Things I learned a long time ago:

1) Avoid shooting at anything other than a private range.

2) Become an officer of the private club ASAP, to make sure that it stays on the straight and narrow.

3) Make it plain to people that covering me with their muzzle more than once will get them shot. Although I like this variation a lot!(Said in very calm, level, serious tone, with lots of sincere eye contact) "If you laser me with that muzzle one more time, I am going to take your gun away and beat you to death with it." :D

Note to self: Do not mess with Tejas or El Gordo Loco! Or Tamara for that matter.:evil: :cool: :what: :evil:

Keith
February 1, 2003, 01:21 AM
>>>>"If you point that gun at me or my kids again, I WILL shoot you." .... Unfortunately, I think the newbies enthusiasm was somewhat diminished after that.<<<<

Hey, most everyone needs a rude awakening at some point when it comes to safe gun handling. Some of us do it to ourselves with an A/D that smartens us up. Others get a shake down by a stranger who resents a gun being pointed at them.

Not everyone has a dad to teach them right from the git-go.

You probably did that kid a big favor. He'll remember that lesson and be a better person for it.

Keith

Duke of Lawnchair
February 1, 2003, 02:12 AM
Scary...

I've seen one too many people that should know better point the business end of their firearms at someone else or myself.

There can ABSOLUTELY be NO bad day at the range. Even if you do poorly and come home safe whether you're shooting by yourself or a party then it was a good day. If NO ONE leaves the range in a body bag or ambulance, then it's a good day, regardless of performance. Safety is key and so many people that should know better cannot get that through their skulls.

illuminatus99
February 1, 2003, 06:17 AM
the closest I've ever come to getting in trouble at the range was when I set my pistol down facing out toward the shop. I had just taken the mag out and the round out of the chamber, normally I leave the slide open but for some reason this time I didn't. I looked up to see the range officer jumping up and down pointing at my gun that was laying there pointed roughly at his crotch, I promptly picked it up and locked the slide back before I set it back down facing the wall.

I feel sorry for anyone who sweeps my wife at the range, she's a native girl with a temper and has no patience for stupid people. she'd probably rip the gun out of their hands and beat them until they squeak.

MarineTech
February 1, 2003, 07:39 AM
I've never had anybody sweep me with a muzzle at the range (at least not that I know of). I'm a member of a private Rod and Gun, and we screen our members pretty closely. Did have a kid do it at a gun shop where I'm a regular. Owner had let him see a used Glock with one of those lasers in the guide rod. Kid (early 20s) started off fairly responsibly, and the owner moved down a bit to help somebody else for a minute. I was over by the front door near the reloading stuff chatting with some of the other regulars when I see a little red dot dancing all over us. I look over, and there's junior painting everybody with the laser. I stomped over to the kid, yanked the gun out of his hands and said, "YOU'RE DONE! You ever point a gun a me or anybody else in here again, and I'll shoot you myself." Had my vest pulled aside and my hand on my Kimber. A few of the other regulars were also echoing my sentiments. Paul the owner came back over pretty quickly and told the kid to get out, and not come back.

Some people may consider that over-reacting, but I didn't make it through Desert Storm and Somalia as a Marine to get shot by some idiot kid in a gun store.

Atticus
February 1, 2003, 09:52 AM
The two ranges I frequent have LOUD speakers (Voice of God loud) that give shooters a clear message if range rules are violated. A second violation earns a personnal visit and a final warning.

Unfortunately, this additional danger comes with bringing more newbies into the fold. Many of these new shooters don't have a father or uncle (Mother or Aunt sorry...EO) to teach them proper gun handling. This is one reason why I am baffled by "pro-gun" advocates that fight manditory training tooth and nail.

Bainx
February 1, 2003, 10:55 AM
Some of the range idiots are simply amazing.
To join the firing range club that I belong to, you go thru a very thorough orientation about the four rules and other range rules.
Plus, you have to get a referral from a present member.
Even with that, during my first range session, I looked over at a guy who was handling a rifle during a cease-fire. My buddy immediately stepped over and calmly stated that the guy was breaking range rules. To my astonisment, the guy argued that the "gun was not loaded".

Oh brother

Art Eatman
February 1, 2003, 01:32 PM
Atticus, all this squalling and whining against teaching kids about guns is why I've always said that the scariest thing in deer camp is a 23-year-old with his first rifle on his first hunt.

Art

Ron L
February 1, 2003, 07:57 PM
I was at an indoor range outside of Atlanta once when someone was getting a little careless. I'd just arrived, but it was obviously not his first infraction. One of the other shooters took the gun from him, dropped the mag and opened the slide and put it on the table and told the guy that the next time that muzzle comes anywhere close to his direction, he was going to take it as a threat on his life and react accordingly.

Ryder
February 2, 2003, 02:42 AM
My little gun club has a rule against aiming a firearm skyward (loaded or otherwise), above the berms. It's very easy to recognize how excluding one of most common safe places which people point while handling could contribute to a lot of the problems mentioned here by everyone.

I learned "raised pistols" as the position to assume during a cease fire call. My guns are generally pointed up when I am not shooting. I do also point them at the ground but not generally when others are around me. It's not a good thing. One turn to the side and you risk pointing at someone's legs. There is also potential for a richocette off the ground if there was a discharge.

The odds of an unintentional discharge are low, the odds of that unintentional discharge falling onto anyone and causing injury )especially out in the woods where my club is) is even lower. Put the two together and compare those odds to the dangers of pointing downward when other people are standing around. Doesn't make much sense to limit the number of safe options a person has.

You can't regulate intelligence. Stupid people will just ignore the regulations.

riverdog
February 2, 2003, 12:08 PM
You can't regulate intelligence. Stupid people will just ignore the regulations. Actually, you can regulate intelligence, just keep the demonstably stupid people off the range :) It really comes down to etiquette and how some folks never learned any form of etiquette, let alone range etiquette and general firearm safety ... that or they just don't care.

I can't recall ever having been swept by a firearm at the range, but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened. The indoor range I use has plastic partitions betwen the shooting positions so you can't see the guy next to you.

The R&GC I belong to has hard rules on firearms etiquette. The honor sytem doesn't apply, RO's are strict and attentive. I think they see it as their duty to educate people, expereienced and newbie alike in shooting safety and range etiquette. By applying the range rules consistenty, no one has any doubt what the rules are, so they are rarely broken.

They've never had a high-power "accident" on the range. Nobody has any doubts regarding the lethality of a 30-06, .308 or even .223. They did have a small-bore accident -- seems some folks don't respect the .22LR all that much. Guy was shot in the chest by his best friend while BS'ing. He lived -- bullet just slid along his ribs and he was home from the hospital that night. Small-bore guys got a cheap wake-up call.

Zundfolge
February 2, 2003, 01:36 PM
I'm often amazed how many gun owners don't know the 4 rules .. even people who work around guns for a living.

I am guilty of covering the guy behind the counter at a gun shop once. I stopped in to pick up my Steyr M40 (bought it on Gunbroker and he was handling the FFL transfer) and when I pulled the gun out of the case I covered the guy behind the counter for about a second and a half.

Once I realized it I said "Oops ... sorry about that". The guy behind the counter looked at me like he didn't know why I was apologizing and then realized what it was and said "Oh, don't worry, its not loaded."

I responded with "well, the most dangerous thing in the world is an 'unloaded' gun."

He just shrugged and walked off to help another customer.

While I'm glad I didn't get a nasty lecture, I might have felt better if I knew that everytime someone covered this guy they would get a reminder of the 4 rules. :(

Rebel Gunman HK
February 3, 2003, 01:11 PM
I see dumb people..... they're everywhere!!!!!

45R
February 3, 2003, 02:00 PM
Was at Target Masters in Stockton one with with my girlfriend, when a few chumps (2 couples of dates 18-21 years of age) came in with their guns trying to impress the girls they were with. Gave them a .22 Ruger and told them to fire away. The girl shooting swept us with the muzzle more then 3 times, while her finger was on the trigger laughing and giggling. A few times the muzzle swept her friends head. I asked one of the guys nicely to educate his girl on gun safetly. Got the fudge off buddy glare, and he said it was his buddys date and I should tell him. Turned away from me and continued to shoot is gun. :fire: I was a little miffed by this guys stupidity. Reported the moron to the RO and left.

Frequenting the range more then once a week, there are morons everywere. This groups is on its way to winning a darwin award.

Brad Johnson
February 3, 2003, 05:05 PM
When I was a teenager (many, many moons ago!) I remember my Dad laughing so hard he was crying because some moron shot himself in the foot while performing a little tirade of righteous indignation.

Some of Dad's friends had come out to shoot, and and one of them brought an out-of town friend. Although the intervening years have dulled the details a bit, the "Reader's Digest" version is that this City Slicker thought he was A-Number-One with a lever gun and was making life miserable for everyone else by just being an obnoxious, unsafe loudmouth. If memory serves, he kept resting the muzzle of a the loaded and cocked .30-30 on the top of his fancy boot to "keep it out of the dirt". When someone finally pointed out that it might be better to clear the gun and just lay it on the shooting table, the guy got loud and blustery. After saying something to the effect of "I've been shooting for ___ years and never had an accident before," he grabbed for the gun to take his turn at the shooting bench.

Now remember, the gun was it was a LOADED and COCKED...

I guess when he grabbed for the gun he did the "stupid gun owner" trick of putting his finger on the trigger before he was ready to fire. The gun discharged and put a nice .30 caliber hole through his boot (which just happened to still have his foot inside).

Everything got a little hectic after that, but I can clearly remember this high-falutin' hombre screaming like a little girl as they loaded him in the back of a pickup to take him to the hospital. This guy was lucky - Had the injury been life-threatening he would've been in serious doo-doo. To reach Vernon (the closest emergency room) you had to travel 10 miles of bumpy ranch road and an additional 45 miles of poorly-patched 2-lane West Texas blacktop. Every time the pickup hit a bump, and there were a lot of them, this dude would let out a holler. Dad and his friends had put up the guns and broken out the beer by this time, and I can remember them lifting lifting their cans in salute and laughing themselves to tears each time they heard a yell fading in the distance.

That guy never did come shooting with us again. I wonder why?

Brad

BerettaNut92
February 3, 2003, 06:00 PM
Brad, ROFL!!!

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