AR15 bolt action upper


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kingcheese
September 5, 2012, 10:37 PM
I was wondering what bolt action uppers are available for an ar15, I'm looking for one in 223, so far I've only seen tacklights in 50bmg and 416

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benzy2
September 5, 2012, 10:59 PM
If you want a bolt action AR in .223, get a side cocking upper/bolt and build an upper without a gas tube.

kingcheese
September 6, 2012, 08:54 AM
Yup, I'm not looking for something like that and id have to plug the gas block for that style, I'm looking for something already assembled

firesky101
September 6, 2012, 09:19 AM
I do have to ask why? I understand people want what they want, I am just not seeing the purpose of it. IIRC the British have some lever action AR-15's in order to qualify as gallery rifles, they are chambered in .30 carbine though.

kingcheese
September 6, 2012, 11:36 AM
Well, i built an ar lower, i like bolt actions, and it will keep my from emptying my bank account on ammo, I'm really wanting something not so common in an ar package

Fishbed77
September 6, 2012, 11:56 AM
and it will keep my from emptying my bank account on ammo

I'm guessing you will probably empty your bank account by the time you build a nice bolt-action upper. My suggestion would be get a nice semi-auto setup and exercise some trigger discipline.

armoredman
September 6, 2012, 01:22 PM
There are such beasts - they are said to be popular in England, or were, so you can probably find one somewhere. i saw photos of one in Engilsh hads a few years ago as the only way they could still use Ar-15s over there, like the pump action AKs made for California some years ago.

mljdeckard
September 6, 2012, 01:35 PM
Ok.....why an AR? Would it not be a lot easier and cheaper to find a bolt-action rifle in .223?

chris in va
September 6, 2012, 02:45 PM
Fishbed said it perfectly. You won't save any money buying something like that.

Heck, if you want to shoot more for the same price, get a Lee Hand Press and make your own ammo...like I do.

mljdeckard
September 6, 2012, 03:34 PM
(I just got a Lee hand press too, it makes it a lot more amenable to get a lot more reloading done if I can size and expand while I watch TV.)

benzy2
September 6, 2012, 10:39 PM
Yup, I'm not looking for something like that and id have to plug the gas block for that style, I'm looking for something already assembled

Have your local shop that assembles a few ARs order a side cocking upper and BCG, have them order the barrel and handguards/float tube you want, then have them install a low profile gas block backwards to seal off the gas port. I'm sure you could get a custom AR barrel maker to make you a barrel with no port if it bugged you that much, though you'd be looking at a $500+ barrel when all said and done.

You typically don't see a standard bolt rifle that's hammer fired. It's a design that is best suited for semi/full auto fire while the striker fire design works very well (better) in the common bolt style rifle. There are a couple of examples with the large bore options to offer a typically expensive shooting platform to the public at a relative inexpensive price. Outside of that though in the competitive world of bolt rifles, where even today's $400 rifles will shoot 1-2 MOA across the board, it's hard to see a bolt conversion upper having much popularity. You take the drawbacks of a semi auto system (the relatively long lock time) and match it with the drawbacks of a bolt system (the slow cycling speeds). Not a great recipe for success, again when $400 rifles will shoot as good as they do right out of the box.

If you really want a bolt rifle and don't want to use a side cocking upper, I'd sell the lower you built and buy a dedicated bolt rifle of your choice. Trying to convert the AR platform to a conventional bolt rifle is going to be a spendy process as well as one that starts with hurdles the rest of the bolt rifle market doesn't have to fight.

kingcheese
September 6, 2012, 10:44 PM
Ok, I'm not looking for people to explain why its not practical i just want it, so can anyone pointme to a site i might find one, also i do handload and i have no need for the semi auto features, i built the lower cause i was bored, as to all other criticism, please save it for someone who will listen unless there are safety or legal issues

kingcheese
September 6, 2012, 10:49 PM
And benzy, can the gas block be mounted backwards, the only reason i didn't want to modify a ready existing upper was because i was worried theplug would blow out, but that's something that would solve the problem

benzy2
September 6, 2012, 10:50 PM
Yes, a gas block can be placed on backwards and would cover the gas port.

kingcheese
September 7, 2012, 06:59 AM
And if I'm not mistaken it could be done with a rail on top so i could mount iron sights?

kingcheese
September 9, 2012, 04:30 PM
How much pressure is the gas system rated for?

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