"old fashioned" gun person?


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greyhound
February 26, 2004, 09:24 PM
So I've been "into" guns about a year and a half now, and I wonder how many share my preferences:

I've shot lots of guns - Glocks, H &Ks, S&W, Rugers, revolvers, pistols, 12 ga/20ga shotguns (semi and pump), bolt action hunting rifles, mil surps - pretty much everything but the "evil" :rolleyes: black rifles. And I think I'm kinda old fashioned - I like the revolvers, shotguns, and to a lesser extent mil surps best.

I know its a sin, maybe, to be "non-tactical" (ahem*Skunk*ahem) but I think I've settled on my niche, and the latest accessory rail/polymer pistol/SWAT compatible guns and nomenclature just don't do anything for me.

Now, I do see a lot of revolver/shotty/mil surp folks here too, but it seems like most folks are a little more modern (for lack of a better word) with a lot of Glock, Sig, AR-15, AK (47s and 74s), and even modern rifles.

Not sure exactly what I'm trying to say, just wondering how many people look to the traditional equilizers (as the revolver forum says:D ) as opposed to constantly trying to keep up with the latest technology?

We all have our preferences, and well we should, but I think after a year and a half of trying everything I think I have settled on mine. And I thank THR for helping me!

That said, anyone wanna trade a revolver for a Ruger P97?:D

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Atticus
February 26, 2004, 09:29 PM
I only own one firearm that has a plastic stock - and it's a muzzle loader!
I love the old and true, wood and blue...course a stainless one here and there is OK.

sm
February 26, 2004, 09:45 PM
I grew up with Revolvers , 1911 style, Pump shotguns, bolt rifles. I prefer blue and wood. I do have some stainless...still prefer the blue and wood.

Yes I also appreciate a machined made gun, be it a machined Model 97, Model 12 or SX1 semi - auto shotgun. I appreciate an O/U or SxS shotgun.

I own one polymer gun, a handgun, I will not own another. I put more value into the skill of the shooter, the quality of form and function above the latest "fad".

Yes there is a place for synthetic, for light rails and such. These are for a task and do serve a purpose...using the best tool for the task at hand.

I appreciate the history and the ability to collect historical firearms, these deserve to be kept, cherished, and the histories, memories passed on. Perhaps more important the freedoms represented and the battles fought - no matter which side - this is an important part of history, what shaped society today.

I'm not against progress and improvements...I just may be a little old fashioned in MY preferences. ;)

I am against the gov't meddlin' and trying to protect me from myself. Not to mention Internal Locks on anything , synthetic, stainless,or blue and wood is just plain ugly. :)

4v50 Gary
February 26, 2004, 09:47 PM
I'll pass on that ML of Atticus. Mind you, plastic does have its place and if I were to build a Ferguson breechloader, I'd want a fibreglass stock so I wouldn't have to worry about it breaking. I'll have to have someone "paint" it to look like wood.

Josey
February 26, 2004, 10:13 PM
I was thinking about switching to Modern class in CAS. There is a pair of Navy Arms 1894 flattop target Bisleys with my name on them somewhere. I do enjoy pinched sights, small wooden grips, hammers that can be thumbcocked and no tool takedown for cleaning. My wondernine is a Browning Hi-Power hi-cap. I am looking for a Steyr 1911 in 9MM Steyr. My S&Ws all start with Model of........

Standing Wolf
February 26, 2004, 10:14 PM
I've never owned a plastic gun. I probably never will.

Smoke
February 26, 2004, 10:35 PM
Blue steel and polished wood for me. (I do kinda like stainless though...) Have an affinity for lever and bolt guns. Revolvers are nice, as are 1911's.

I have one plastic stocked bolt gun, only have it 'cause it was a good deal.
I have an AR....well, just 'cause.:D

Plastic has no place on a shotgun. (Camo either)

Leather is best for keeping a gun secured to your body. Natural colored leather works exceptionally well.

There is something timeless in steel and wood. Who will want antique tupperware in 50 years?

Smoke

Majic
February 26, 2004, 10:39 PM
I don't own a plastic handgun, don't want one, and most likely never will have one.
I have put together an AR, but it was for my son. I have a L1A1 and have been looking for some nice wood to replace the plastic on it. I own 1 Smoke Pole with plastic, but it seems to always stay home and the wood stocked ones do all the work.
If I ever feel the need to be hanging ornaments off of my handguns then it will have to be done with duct tape or bailing wire.
My favorite shotguns have 2 barrels and they lay side by side.

hansolo
February 26, 2004, 10:41 PM
I lean toward classic S&W and Ruger wheelguns. I have a 60+ year old Winchester '94(.30-.30), and 50+ year old Win. Rimfire rifle. My two 9mm pistols are steel and aluminum. I guess I'm fairly "un-Tactical", but if I could legally own an AR-15 type, I would. I plan to add a Garand and M1Carbine to my milsurp SKS. My next purchase will be my first 1911 .45 ACP. For plastic-lovers, knock yourself out: I prefer metal and wood.

seeker_two
February 26, 2004, 10:58 PM
I only own one plastic gun--which happens to be one of the only tow centerfire autos I own, too. The rest are classic designs.

There's something to be said for a mechanism that's worked w/o bugs for 150+ years...:cool:

jsalcedo
February 26, 2004, 11:36 PM
Metal and wood make me feel like I'm getting more for my money.

I know if I buy a name brand from before 1960 there is no way I could
get a modern gun with that kind of hand work or attention to detail for 5 times the amount.

My favorite guns are the old dogs that I salvaged from the heap.

1951 Remington 870 wingmaster
1953 Winchester 94
1908 Colt New Army .38
1943 Underwood M1 carbine

Dr.Rob
February 27, 2004, 02:47 AM
Blued steel and oil finished wood is pretty and functional.

Stanless and plastic doesn't look as good but is functional.. and you don't cuss a blue streak when you scratch the stock.

SMLE
February 27, 2004, 02:48 AM
My primary carry piece is a Beretta Model 96, but I also don't mind carrying my 1937 vintage Colt OP or my 1952 vintage S&W 27 with the 3.5" Bbl. My HD shotgun is a Model '97 Winchester "trench gun"(well a Norinco re-pop of one anyway). I collect Lee Enfield rifles with an emphasis on pre WWII and even pre WWI models. I don't even feel under equipped armed with a Cimmaron 1873 SAA re-pop in .45 Colt. I just can't quite warm up to Glocks and other "fantastical, plastical, tactical combat tupperware". Sure they're fine guns, but I just don't like them. The older guns just have "style" that the new stuff can't quite manage.

I'm not really sure just why the Beretta is the only "modern" handgun I've really taken a fancy to. It may have something to do with the heritage of the Beretta name. It's also a matter of asthetics to some degree, and the way the gun feels in my hand. I always liked the feel of the 92, but just couldn't quite get into 9mm. The 96 was just the combination I was looking for. It's dead sure reliable and as accurate as I am capable of shooting, and now "Lil' Rocky"* is my main carry piece.

*That name just popped into my head yesterday. It's partly a play on "Pietro" and partly a play on the nick name "Italian Stallion" which I have heard applied to the Beretta as well as to Sylvester Stallone.

Archie
February 27, 2004, 03:22 AM
1911s, pinned S&W revolvers, wood stocked rifles...

Okay, I have one plastic handgun, an H&K USP40. It was for work and it works well. I have one plastic shotgun, but it is an 870 Remington and it's for the three gun police matches. One EBP rifle, a Remington 700 in .308 for a sniper function.

All the rest are blued steel (I don't have a stainless gun I can think of) and have wood grips, mostly by Herretts.

My next acquistions are going to be a short M27, a Remington model 81 in 35 Remington and a Savage 99 in either .300 Savage or .250-3000.

Tamara
February 27, 2004, 08:33 AM
I own a couple of EBR's, but other than that, my most "modern" rifle is an FN-49. As far as handguns go, it's S&W revolvers and 1911's all the way.

BluesBear
February 27, 2004, 08:54 AM
Old fashioned? Who me? Nawww. I ain't fashioned, just getting old.

For me it's mostly Colt 1911 pattern pistols and S&W firing-pin-on-the-hammer revolvers. My HD guns are 2 Rossi Coach Guns and a Mossberg 500 that's so old it only has one action bar.

Why mess with success?

Kaylee
February 27, 2004, 10:03 AM
I think the appeal of the older stuff is the greater degree of craftsmanship that had to go into them, back before MIM, CNC milling, yadda yadda yadda. When I look into a Mauser action, feel how smooth the bolt is and see that even the floorplate is milled out... yum. :)

You can still get that craftsmanship these days, but ya gotta pay for it. The nice thing about the older stuff is that the premium's already been paid.

Modern plastic-and-stamped-steel pieces just... they lack soul, ya know? :)

-K

Griff
February 28, 2004, 05:10 AM
To me the term Old Fashioned refers to attitude, specifically, "Make do with what ya got", as my parents grew up during the Great Depression.
They got their tools and ideals from their immigrant parents, who eventually ended up with the best they could get their hands on, which was of sufficient quality to last another generations' use and abuse.
So, either by default or choice, I share my grandparents' values. This influences my choices.

Warm, pink, fuzzies aside, Glocks don't fit my tiny little hands as well as 1911s.

tcsd1236
February 28, 2004, 06:47 AM
My next few purchases will probably be older style handguns and rifles. I was bummed that S & W was so quick in pulling the Scofield from their line up after they brought it back; that was going to be my next purchase, and from what I had been hearing, the S & W versions kicked the Navy Arms version quality-wise from here to Sunday.

cracked butt
February 28, 2004, 07:34 AM
I used to own a platic rifle- a rem 597. It never spoke to me in the right way so I sold it. No matter how many times I shoot a Glock I just can't get myself to want one.

Make my guns out of steel and walnut.
I like the smell of linseed oil.

I had a few extra bucks lying around and wanted a new handgun this year, so I ordered a 1911.

sir-chimps-a-lot
February 28, 2004, 09:04 AM
I love modern assault rifles myself, but I think I'm going to go through a few old rifles and revolvers before I ever get something with that kind of price tag.

Tamara
February 28, 2004, 09:22 AM
I was bummed that S & W was so quick in pulling the Scofield from their line up after they brought it back; that was going to be my next purchase, and from what I had been hearing, the S & W versions kicked the Navy Arms version quality-wise from here to Sunday.

Unfortunately, they were better, but not better enough to convince people to spend the difference. I don't think that Smith realized that folks weren't buying these things to look at, but to go beat the hell out of in CAS matches. "Wow! That's a pretty $900 gun! Beautifully fit and finished! I'm gonna go buy these two $450 ones to play in the dirt with on Saturdays."

Watch for the remaining stock of S&W Schofields to turn up at CDNN or SOG or some other clearance house soon.

greyhound
February 28, 2004, 09:29 AM
Funny, seems like a lot of us (me included) own "one plastic gun, but no more".....

I am OK with stainless too.

Now, I can't wait for the weather to break so I can go shoot my "new" 1943 Mosin Nagant. I bet that will start a hankerin' for more classic mil-surps, especially the Big Daddy: M1 Garand!:D

OEF_VET
February 28, 2004, 09:29 AM
I'm a little bit of a waffler I guess.

When it comes to handguns, I prefer S&W revolvers and GI 1911A1's. I have no need for Glocks, Sig's, H&K's, etc., with the one exception of my Kel-Tec P32 for summertime CCW.

For shotguns, I'm more modern, preferring synthetic stocks to wood, but not above owning an NEF single shot or two or a Rem 870 Express Magnum with wood furniture.

For rifles, I'm definitely more modern in my tastes. I'd much rather have an EBR or synthetically furnished bolt-gun than wood. However, I own two wood furnished mil-surps and will hopefully be adding a Marlin 1894C to the collection before too long.

I can go either way when it comes to gun preferences. It mostly depends on the platform.

Frank

greyhound
February 28, 2004, 09:33 AM
Forgot to add black powder rifles as another thing I am interested in (I'm interested in lots of things, time and money have a way of rearing their ugly heads and forcing choices!).

A Kentucky long rifle or Civil War Springfield or Enfield replica are definately on the list.

Hmmmm, is it still "old fashioned" if its a replica?:confused:

El Tejon
February 28, 2004, 09:34 AM
grey, into my fourth decade of shooting, no matter what the trends of the market or what philosophy one is exposed to, each individual will always have "favorites" outside of what is popular. The reasoning is based up a myriad of factors: gun Dad had, gun I saw in a movie, gift from an Uncle, whatever.

However, when this was a free country, that was the join of freedom--it didn't have to make sense or even be rational.:)

Atticus
February 28, 2004, 04:24 PM
My latest tactical rifle. $90 is kinda old fashioned in a good sorta way.


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Smoke Rizen
February 28, 2004, 07:32 PM
I shoot most of my rounds through single action wheelguns, but I love to take out the 1911 for a day now and then. My oldest Winchester is 1880's vintage Mod. 73 in 44-40 Win. my newest is a 94 Trails End in .45 Colt. 2003. I 'spect it will shoot as smooth after I get 5-6 thous. rounds through it. I own some ss, but still like the light shinin on blue. Most of my stocks and grips are wood although some are barely recognizable. S.R.

D_Burchfield
February 29, 2004, 12:54 AM
Gee, maybe this is a generational thing.:what: But I happen to like the Blue Steel and Wood look myself. Don't own a polymer handgun but I have shot them and they just don't do it for me on the whole. Rifles that are used in the field can take a lot of abuse(as mine have) so I don't have a problem with synthetic stocks in this case, even though I don't currently have one. They just don't look as good in the gun case. :D

V-fib
February 29, 2004, 03:01 AM
For me it’s a little bit old and a little bit new. Both my CC guns are revolvers, but each one has a pair of Crimson Trace laser grips on them. Hunting rifle: wood stock, HD shotgun: syn. stock. However both are pump action and both have scopes. New technology mixed with old school is ok with me. :cool:

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