Any Drilling/Combo Gun Shooters?


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luv2safari
September 8, 2012, 12:00 AM
They are my "thing". I was wondering if anyone else here has the bug?

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kbbailey
September 8, 2012, 12:03 AM
I love my little savage 24. .22/.410 Does that count?

luv2safari
September 8, 2012, 12:05 AM
YOU BET!!! I love them, too. They're great game getters. ;)

gp911
September 8, 2012, 08:56 AM
Savage 24 in .22WMR/.410 here. Great little gun.

luv2safari
September 8, 2012, 03:30 PM
I put a lot of meat on the table with one when I was young, had a new baby, and was dirt poor. They're an American Classic.

luv2safari
September 8, 2012, 11:55 PM
Here is why I'm always broke. I just received this 1955 Sauer LUX drilling with a 6XHensoldt in Suhler claw mounts, a left barrel 22mag insert barrel (einstecklauf in German) in 16gauge 2 3'4" chambers and 6.5X57R rifle, a close cartridge to the 257 Roberts. The price was right, and it was my 65th birthday, so what the heck? :rolleyes:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/luv2safari/SauerforBC006.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/luv2safari/SauerforBC005.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/luv2safari/SauerforBC003.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/luv2safari/SauerforBC002.jpg

I had to sell my Sauer 3000 drilling in 12ga and 30-06 to buy this gun and one other drilling...so 2 for 1. ;)

Savage99
September 9, 2012, 12:17 AM
I have had a drilling for a long time.

I used to hunt bear and grouse in VT but now there are no grouse or bear there.

Now all I do is talk about it on the net and carry it on a farm once in a while.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9919/017tv.jpg

Tinker
September 9, 2012, 12:42 AM
My absolute favorite firearm is a Springfield M6 Scout (.22LR/.410)

If the house caught fire, the family was safe outside, the family albums and my M6 would be coming out on the run back in to save stuff.

You guys that love the old Model 24's......good news....Jeff Quinn from Gunblasts reviewed the new version combo gun by Savage. It is the Model 42 (.22 over .410 with a polymer stock) Not as purty as the old 24, but looks like a real "woods" gun. Lighter than the originals too.

wlewisiii
September 9, 2012, 01:26 AM
I keep pretending that someday I'll be able to afford a 2x16+1x9.3x74R drilling.

bigfatdave
September 9, 2012, 04:30 AM
I like farting around on the range with my Savage 24, mine is a 20g & .22lr combo.
I particularly get a giggle out of running CCI CB shorts in it opposite the occasional 20g round

pop
pop
pop
BOOM
pop
BOOM

... it keeps the other people on the range guessing

Jason_W
September 9, 2012, 09:10 AM
I have a baikal MP94 in 12 ga/.308. I haven't fielded it yet, though. The shotgun barrel is very accurate with slugs. The .308 barrel is going to take some load development.

Pete D.
September 9, 2012, 03:38 PM
Another Springfield M6 here. The .22lr/.410 version.
I am considering the new Savage Model 42 in .22 Magnum/.410.
Pete

ghitch75
September 9, 2012, 04:38 PM
would like to find a 24 in 22 Hornet/12g....

oneounceload
September 9, 2012, 04:40 PM
The Savage guns are neat combo guns - I had the "Camper's Companion" for a while - but they are not true drillings in that they only have 2 barrels.

Luv2Safari - have you looked into the drillings on www.gunsinternational.com? or the creations of Peter Hofer : http://www.hoferwaffen.com/hofer_1.php?lang=en, or Philip Ollendorf : http://www.jagdwaffen-ollendorff.com/en/philipp-ollendorff.html ???

Some beautiful drillings, Vierlings, and more

luv2safari
September 9, 2012, 05:01 PM
I had two in 12ga/7X57R, and both shot very well! If you need a scope mount for it try these. They work GREAT on the Baikals!
http://www.amazon.com/UTG-11mm-Weaver-Adapter-Adjustable/dp/B001CJ67E6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_sg_1

http://www.amazon.com/NcStar-Steel-Weaver-Level-RB31/dp/B001D1AKVE/ref=sr_1_185?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1347224344&sr=1-185&keywords=scope+rings+and+mounts

Don't let the price fool you, these do work and seem very strong. The base is for a high powered air rifle with the heavy piston recoil; it has a top set screw to further keep it from moving.

luv2safari
September 9, 2012, 05:02 PM
NICE photo, 99! Thanks for sharing it.

talldragon
September 9, 2012, 07:33 PM
I wouldn't mind having one of these drillings (http://www.krieghoff.com/index.php/hunting-guns/optima-drilling/double-rifle-drilling).
Maybe someday.....:rolleyes: .

MARKMALL
September 10, 2012, 07:22 AM
I also love my Savage 24 in 20\222Rem.

PapaG
September 10, 2012, 10:17 PM
Three, all Savage 24 derivatives....first, an original Stevens 22/410, second, a Savage 24DL 22/20' and finally a Savage 24 V in 222/20. All accurate, all game getters. I've found, after about fifteen of these things that, for me, the older ones with the rifle barrel grazed full length to the shot barrel are more accurate. The 222 will do an honest inch and a half. None have ever had good triggers.

luv2safari
September 14, 2012, 02:34 AM
The 24 in 20/222 is a great combination, IMO. :cool:

luv2safari
September 14, 2012, 09:37 PM
Oneounce...I've met Peter and helped set up his booth at SCI in Reno. He also made a mini double rifle for a display piece that is beyond belief!

saltydog452
September 15, 2012, 06:42 AM
I am ignorant about barrels. It seems that the more I 'think' I understand, the less I 'know'. How, what kind of magical incantation, or cyro, or talent, or voodoo allow three barrels to be regulated so POA is the same as POI?

Not intended to be rude, but waaay confused.

Thanks,

salty

luv2safari
September 15, 2012, 08:48 PM
Salty,

A lot of years as an apprentice under a master gun maker, knowing the quirks of combination guns from 10-40 years of working on and with them, and many hours of soldering and re-soldering barrels together and test firing them go into a proper drilling.

The newer ones benefit from technology and different design with floating rifle barrels. The Mathelon 3-rifle barrel drilling is still soldered together, and that is mastery beyond my comprehension.

The great masters even make 4 and 5 barrel combination guns! :eek:

oneounceload
September 15, 2012, 10:26 PM
Oneounce...I've met Peter and helped set up his booth at SCI in Reno. He also made a mini double rifle for a display piece that is beyond belief!

That would be his Hummingbird. For those unfamiliar with that gun - it is a double barrel rifle that weighs 1 kilogram - 2.2 pounds

http://www.hoferwaffen.com/images/products/selected/gallery/hw_cont.m52p14g14.jpg

http://www.hoferwaffen.com/images/products/selected/gallery/hw_cont.m52p14g15.jpg

luv2safari
September 15, 2012, 11:43 PM
See... ;)

luv2safari
October 8, 2012, 11:55 PM
This is the best I can do for gaudy. 1926 Triebel-Aushburg 16/16/8X57JR with 22 LR insert and 4X Hensoldt.

I call it my "pimp drilling". :rolleyes:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/luv2safari/004-1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/luv2safari/003-2.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/luv2safari/001-1.jpg

natman
October 9, 2012, 03:05 PM
would like to find a 24 in 22 Hornet/12g....

Handle one up before you buy one. The 12 ga 24s are heavy.

dirt_j00
October 9, 2012, 03:31 PM
Just picked up a Remington/Baikal SPR94 12 Gauge/.223 combo gun this weekend. Enjoyed shooting it at the range -- now trying to scope it with the odd/small 11mm base that is on it. Anyone with info head over to the "Accessories" page!

http://www.remington.com/~/media/Images/Firearms/Archived/Shotgun-Rifle-Combo/lgsil_SPR94.ashx

Liberty1776
October 9, 2012, 09:14 PM
luv2safari - pimp drilling is right... I think my eyes melted...:D


I having trouble making my picture attach, but mine's an Immanual Meffert 16 over 8x57R. Hope to actually take something with it this year...

loose noose
October 9, 2012, 09:44 PM
I also have the Savage .222/20ga. I used to use it all the time for hunting quail, and when the coyotes started invading my quail fields it came mighty handy in culling off the excess coyotes. I placed a 4X scope on it with see thru mounts on it. Still have it, just haven't used it much anymore, as I wasn't the only one taking care of the coyote problem.:D

luv2safari
October 11, 2012, 01:49 PM
dirt...

These are easy to scope and are very accurate, if not eye candy. ;)

Get a two piece scope base adapter set to adapt a 3/8" grooved receiver over to Weaver type rings. I did this on the 12ga/7X57R version I recently sold. It worked great.

I have several one piece base adapters that are very secure and are steel with a top set screw to make sure the base doesn't move. The only drawback is they mount the scope a bit high.

PM me a name and address, and I'll send you a base to try, no charge. :)

DM~
October 11, 2012, 07:45 PM
For a combo gun (two bbls) I like The Valmet 412's,. They could he had in shotgun, combo gun or double rifle.

http://fototime.com/1D6F2443ED3D78F/standard.jpg

Best part is, you could buy an action and then buy any one of the more than 25 different bbls later!

Valmet also offered a QD scope mount,

http://fototime.com/CB3C3C080E58C3B/standard.jpg

And it's an all steel mount that goes on and off easily, and accurately! Here's a target from one of my 12ga - 30-06 bbl. sets, taking the scope off and putting it back on after each shot,

http://fototime.com/707492955A1C56B/standard.jpg

I shot a lot of big game with that combo, including 3 big bull caribou in one day. Here's one of them,

http://fototime.com/B85D825D0B0658E/standard.jpg

There are still plenty of 412's forsale, like this DR still new in the box,

http://fototime.com/835D291617EA1F5/standard.jpg

you just have to look around a bit.

Great guns, very accurate, with many options!!

DM

oneounceload
October 11, 2012, 07:54 PM
Valmets were the deal of the century back in the 80's - and I passed on a few that I now kick myself for

luv2safari
October 13, 2012, 01:07 AM
I've gone through literally dozens of them in the 412/412S Valmets and in 512 Tikkas made in Italy. I used to dabble in them heavily a few years ago.

I still have my original 412S in 12/12 with choke tubes and a Tikka 12/30-06 barrel, plus two scope mounts.

Their weight is getting to be too much for me to haul around, and I might list the set here and on several other forums soon.

These were/are still bargains in good shooting combos. Original barrels are getting hard to find, but the new Lothar Walther barrel sets are excellent, and the sights on the DR barrels are much better than the old folding ones.

OH...by the way...I have some replacement original folding sights, too. (for a price...:D)

Kurt S.
October 13, 2012, 01:39 AM
I have a Springfield M-6 and a Savage 24. The 24 is 12 gauge over .223 and I mean .223. It was almost imposible to extract when I tried 5.56. I have tried many different kinds of 5.56. Also, even in .223 bullets over 55 grains will keyhole unbelievably. The .223 barrel shoots well with 45 and 50 grain.

luv2safari
October 17, 2012, 12:20 AM
Liberty,

That dural frame Meffert is a great drilling. Meffert was one of the very best makers. :cool::cool:

How much does it weigh?

Axel Larson
October 17, 2012, 09:21 AM
To Savage there grouse and bear in VT. Not that I have run across a lot but I did get one grouse to flush. And fish and game say there are over 6000 bear.

Savage99
October 17, 2012, 11:15 PM
We were up there in southern VT a week ago and while I saw no grouse or deer on my walk we did see one further up the road from the car.

There are bears here in CT now! Can you believe that? We never had them here in the past.

We saw a full size black bear along a highway, watching to cross, in NW CT a couple of weeks ago.

superfaz29
November 9, 2012, 02:25 PM
Have never been on this site before but need help with a drilling that is being offered to me for sale from a local collector. Gun: hermann weihrauch drilling
Caliber/gauge: 7x57mm mauser; 16 gauge
Condition: 98%
Manufactured: 1925 to 1935. The estimated retail of this gun is around 6500 but that means what if I have no idea how long this gun will sit in auction. Theres one article about the exact hun titled "I have this old gun" which tells about its condition and history. I am a rare coin dealer and have no idea where to go with something like this. Taking a risk and buying the gun today regardless because I think its very unique and pristine and still opeartes beautifully. But any information on the gun would be greatly appreciated!

luv2safari
November 18, 2012, 11:28 PM
A 7X57 & 16ga (will have short 65mm chambers) shouldn't command that kind of price. I can find good ones, not pristine, with a scope in claw mounts for $2,500-$3,500.

I recently bought a very nice Sauer 3000 LUX game scene engraved circa 1955 in 16ga/70mm chambers and 6.5X57R, scoped with a 6X Hensoldt in Shuler claw mounts for 1/3 what they estimate the auction amount will be for that drilling. Now, the 7X57R drilling might be a sidelock and ornate. Then it could be a far more costly gun.

DM~
November 19, 2012, 11:05 AM
Hey Luv2 safari, Do you hunt with your drillings??

My old Krieghoff is still putting meat in my freezer for me, i shot this buck a few days ago,

http://www.fototime.com/DF9341CE4D593BD/standard.jpg

He will be tasty this winter...

DM

ChooChoo
November 19, 2012, 12:33 PM
luv2safari - I love to be shocked and that's why I like horror flicks so much.

Sooo... scare me with the price of that gorgeous Hummingbird.

luv2safari
December 1, 2012, 01:25 AM
DM,

I sure do hunt with them. My last hunt was for chuckar a few weeks ago.

You know I covet your drilling. :neener:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/luv2safari/126.jpg

luv2safari
December 1, 2012, 01:28 AM
ChooChoo

I have no idea. He uses it as a display piece at high end gunshows and SCI.

rszwieg
December 1, 2012, 11:54 AM
I've been fooling around with a Savage 24c. It's not as poorly regulated as some specimens out there. The shotgun patterns are a bit patchy but that can be fixed. The.22 barrel is more than accurate enough for small game. My problem with it is seeing the sights in the woods as my eyes are going fast.

DM~
December 2, 2012, 09:18 AM
DM,

I sure do hunt with them. My last hunt was for chuckar a few weeks ago.

You know I covet your drilling. :neener:



I'm glad they aren't just collecting dust! Waaaaay too many folks buy one, then refuse to hunt with it! I just don't understand that at all!

DM

jgh4445
December 2, 2012, 10:16 AM
My Sauer 12 X 12 X 30.06 is my go to gun! Its a pre- model 3000. It has a Supra Nickel 6 x 43 scope mounted. By the way, I need a turret cap for the scope. Any idea where I might find one?

jgh4445
December 4, 2012, 02:28 PM
Just got back from the lgs with a box of Remington 220 gr RN 30.06 and a box of Win 00 Buck at 1450 fps. Should be just what the Dr. ordered in the big swamp this weekend hunting hogs and deer. Turns the Drilling into Thor's Hammer!

Esoxchaser
December 4, 2012, 02:37 PM
Savage 24, 22LR/ 20ga.

planetmobius
December 5, 2012, 12:51 AM
Got a couple of Savage 24's and an old german hammer drilling in 16x16x9.3x72R

OrangePwrx9
December 5, 2012, 07:51 AM
Savage 24V: .223/20 gauge (the favorite)
Savage 24F: .223/12 gauge (screw-in chokes)
Both rifle barrels very accurate (MOA with irons); both shotgun patterns quite poor.

Looking for a 24 in .22LR/20 gauge.

Headed over to Gunbroker to see if any Valmet 412s are available.

willroute
December 28, 2012, 10:03 PM
I love my savage 357 over 20. Just a great shooting gun and quick on target.

CA Raider
March 2, 2013, 12:26 PM
i am way late on this thread ...

I have been thinking about a practical survival gun that would work for my family. Mostly a rifle for getting small game. I looked for Savage 24's on their Web page, but they appear to be gone.

Savage seems to have resurrected the idea with their "new" Savage 42.

http://savagearms.com/firearms/model/Model42

So if anybody has one of these ... please post some feedback. I'm not sure why the 24 model is gone and the 42 has re-appeared ... but there must be a reason. I like the option for the 22WMR ammo, and my understanding is that the 410 would be OK for birds like pheasant, quail etc. (I've never hunted with 410). One big attraction with this rifle is that it is woman-friendly and kid-friendly ... most of my family is of the female persuasion.

CA R

willroute
May 16, 2013, 09:37 PM
I would not buy the new 24 series. It is well worth it to find an older one, as they are better made and just awesome guns

788Ham
May 16, 2013, 10:14 PM
I picked up a #24 about 10 years ago at a hardware store, gave $40.00 for it. Its a .22LR/410, shoots good too ! Mine is an older model, has a "button" on the RT side of the receiver, for selector switch. Stock and fore end are beautiful wood, needed some TLC when I brought it home, about 4 hours of hand rubbed lemon oil later, really beautiful wood. I've been offered $300.00 for mine, no sale !;)

two gun charlie
May 17, 2013, 02:38 PM
Savage model 24 .22 , 410 , over and under , inherited it from my father
my favourite rifle after my .375 Sako manlicher carbine :D

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