Concealed carry opinions needed


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blakec3686
September 8, 2012, 11:22 AM
Hi all, i rarely post on this board (mainly because i don't have anything to say usually lol)...but when i do i seem to get great responses so thanks to all who make this forum great.

Now to my question i'm in the process of getting my ccw here in the great state of Idaho and am looking for some suggestions on a carry piece. The only auto loader i own is a full size 1911, i would love to carry that (and definitely will in the winter) but here is the problem I'm 5'5 and about 150lbs, can anyone recommend an alternate weapon or a good holster that would allow my to carry my 1911? if not what about an alternate firearm...any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

P.s i wear blue jeans and usually a button shirt for day to day stuff.

Blake

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Pilot
September 8, 2012, 11:45 AM
Since you are familiar with the 1911, you may want to try a lightweight (alloy framed) Commander sized 1911 like a Colt lightweight commander XSE. Some saay a full size, all steel, 1911 is fine to carry with a good belt and holster, but I know for me, I'd feel the weight.

wlewisiii
September 8, 2012, 11:49 AM
Presuming you'd rather stay with .45 ACP, I'd suggest looking at either the Glock 30 or 36. Otherwise there's a whole lot of other options. Have you ever just gone to a range that rents handguns and tried a bunch of different kinds?

Japle
September 8, 2012, 01:21 PM
If you can't wear a jacket or other cover garment all the time, you might want to consider a pocket pistol. For someone your size, anything bigger than the smallest 9mm autos may be too big.

Consider this: A P3AT in your front pants pocket and a small stungun in your left front pocket. A .380 isn't the best gun available, but it's something you'll carry all the time. The stungun is for those jerks that you need to defend against, but can't legally shoot. Having one hand or the other in your pocket doesn't look threatening, but it makes for a fast draw.

MedWheeler
September 8, 2012, 05:47 PM
If you'd like to stick with the 1911 design, but would step down to .380 for a smaller carry piece, the SiG P238 is well-liked by many. Actually, now that I think of it, I'd rather stick with the "original" namesake and grab a Mustang instead.

Vern Humphrey
September 8, 2012, 06:25 PM
Any pancake style holster can be adapted to a "tuckable" Inside the Waistband (IWB) holster. You need a drill, a saw, some sandpaper, some Kydex, a couple of Chicago (post) screws and a heat gun.

Cut two strips of Kydex, about 1/2" X 6". Sand smooth and round the corners. Drill a hole large enough to taket the outer shaft of the Chicago screws about a half inch from one end of each strip. Punch or drill two similar holes in the toe of the holster, one on either side of the end of the slide.

Form the Kydex strips into Reverse Js. Heat and bend the end opposite the hole back to form a J. The bend should be about 2" from the end. Then bend the tip of the J inward to form a second, smaller J.

Attach the strips to the holster with the Chicago screws.

Dress normally with your shirt tucked in, but belt unbuckled. Take you holstered gun and shove it between your pants and your shirt at about the 4:00 O'Clock position. The Reverse J clips will go outside the belt, and the tips will click into place, locking the holster to the belt.

Now pull out your shirt behind the holster, drape it over the gun and holster, and tuck it between the holster and J clips. Position the holster and tighten your belt. Finally, blouse your shirt -- pull out two or three inches all around and let the slack hang down over you belt.

AK103K
September 8, 2012, 06:51 PM
Im 5'6 170# and carried a GM or Commander everyday for about 25 years wearing basically what you wear. I did wear my shirt untucked most of the time in warmer weather though. Never had any problems hiding them, or any of the other basically full sized guns Ive carried.

These days, with the wide assortment of good holsters available, it shouldnt be hard to find something that works well for you.

smalls
September 8, 2012, 06:57 PM
Commander or officer's sized 1911, since you're used to them already. I prefer IWB carry in a Milt Sparks VM II style holster, but that's just me, you might have to experiment a little in the holster department.

bruzer
September 8, 2012, 07:26 PM
FIRST THINGS FIRST. Start with a real gun belt. Going full size is a lot of weight and you'll fail without a real gun belt for support. Re-enforced instructor belt and I sweat too much for any type of leather so all Kydex holsters for me. PJ Holster http://pjholster.com/ or X-Concealment G2 IWB http://www.x-concealment.com/Compact%20Concealment%20Kydex%20Holster.htm
My philosophy is learn and adapt to full size before going small. Glock G21/G22/G17 not all at the same time. I would go full size stainless 1911 if I had one.
Good luck and stay safe,
Mike

blakec3686
September 8, 2012, 08:18 PM
wow thanks for the quick replies, i have gone to the range and have tried glocks and some others and i do know this...the glock trigger is not for me neither are any double action or striker fired autos, the trigger and i just cant seem to get along...that being said i do like revolvers but if i choose a wheel gun it needs to be in 357 or bigger (i question the effectiveness of a 2'' tube and a magnum cartridge any insite?) the other thing is ive shot some commander sized pistols and i liked them but the recoil is a bit much but i think with practice i would fine.. One thing i have noticed is that i really like the slimness of the frame on the 1911. and i do wear my shirt untucked most of the time as well. does anyone use the full size gm with the crossbreed holsters i've heard good things about them wondered what yall thought.

TAKtical
September 8, 2012, 08:36 PM
I can make a hybrid IWB for you. Check my for sale thread. I conceal a full rail TRP Operator. My EDC is a glock 17. Im a bigger guy (6'2 230lbs) but the right holster and wearing one size bigger shirt makes a huge difference. Carry the biggest gun that you can conceal. It is not uncommon for concealed carriers to adjust their clothes or type of carry for better concealment. The type of cant that you use can make a big difference to. With no cant my 17 sticks out like a sore thumb. With the cant angled so that the grip is more vertical, the 17 disappears.

kutz
September 8, 2012, 09:30 PM
You really need to checkout the Colt New Agent in .45 acp

21H40
September 8, 2012, 09:41 PM
If you're comfortable with it already, stick with a 1911.

Get a good IWB holster and good belt. If the full size is still too much, downsize to an officer frame. I've got a Kimber Custom Compact that has the commander slide and officer frame, and I would recommend something built like that without hesitation. That size carries easily and is comfortable with jeans and a long t-shirt.

I've been using a Crossbreed this summer. I like the comfort and weight distribution, but the thing squeaks something obnoxious.

Good luck

orionengnr
September 8, 2012, 10:14 PM
I really like the alloy-framed Commander-sized 1911s. The recoil is a bit more than a 5" steel 1911, but after a little bit of shooting you don't notice it any more.

What you will notice right away is the loss of 3/4 - 1" worth of barrel/slide poking you in the buttocks, and the loss of about half a pound. :)

I also have a 3" alloy 1911, and carried it for a time. It is every bit as reliable as the longer ones; the recoil is one more small step up and the weight another 4 oz or so less. I can shoot it almost as well as I can the 4-incher.

But (IMHO) the alloy framed 4-incher is the perfect compromise.

erikk8829
September 9, 2012, 04:40 PM
I carry amongst others a Kimber Eclipse Ultra 2 .45 in a IWB Milt Sparks VM2 I live in SWFL & wear a T shirt 99.9% of the time and with the above rig you would never know I was carrying

Kleanbore
September 9, 2012, 05:05 PM
Blake, I recommend the Milt Sparks VM-2, worth the price and the wait; also a good belt, worth the money.

See how the grip conceals under your shirt. I have a .45 Guardian from STI, with a 3.9 inch barrel and the Officer's grip frame. All steel.

You might look into one of the high end Commander-length .45s with a bobtail grip.

A Commander length slide would be short enough for me to conceal sitting down.

Good luck.

WvHiker
September 9, 2012, 05:44 PM
If you like revolvers and like .357, but don't like a 2" barrel, maybe you'd like a 3" Ruger SP101. I have one, and the stock grips are easy to conceal and pretty good in the recoil dept. you might check it out, I carry one a lot of the time and really like it.

Lawdawg45
September 10, 2012, 07:24 AM
Hi all, i rarely post on this board (mainly because i don't have anything to say usually lol)...but when i do i seem to get great responses so thanks to all who make this forum great.

Now to my question i'm in the process of getting my ccw here in the great state of Idaho and am looking for some suggestions on a carry piece. The only auto loader i own is a full size 1911, i would love to carry that (and definitely will in the winter) but here is the problem I'm 5'5 and about 150lbs, can anyone recommend an alternate weapon or a good holster that would allow my to carry my 1911? if not what about an alternate firearm...any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

P.s i wear blue jeans and usually a button shirt for day to day stuff.

Blake

Hi Blake. I actually found the 1911 easier to conceal than any double stack semi auto, including my Glocks. By "full size" I'm assuming you mean 5 inch, and while that would be easy to conceal in an IWB holster, comfort may not be an option. The Crossbreed Supertuck is a very comfortable IWB holster. Good luck!

LD

LNK
September 10, 2012, 07:45 AM
If you're comfortable with it already, stick with a 1911.

Get a good IWB holster and good belt. If the full size is still too much, downsize to an officer frame. I've got a Kimber Custom Compact that has the commander slide and officer frame, and I would recommend something built like that without hesitation. That size carries easily and is comfortable with jeans and a long t-shirt.

I've been using a Crossbreed this summer. I like the comfort and weight distribution, but the thing squeaks something obnoxious.

Good luck
Put some baby powder on the leather where the clips meet the leather. Squeak will go away after a few applications...

LNK

glock2122
September 10, 2012, 07:51 AM
Look into a Glock 26 with a Galco kingtuk iwb holster.This setup should work very well for you.

TrueTexan
September 10, 2012, 01:06 PM
Might try looking at a sig p220 compact carry using an IWB holster. I carry carry a Sigp220 carry SAS using an IWB King Tuk and a good belt double stich from Cabellas

FMF Doc
September 10, 2012, 06:36 PM
1911s are some of the easiest full-size guns to carry because of their slim single stack profile. If you use a good gun belt and a good holster, you will hardly notice the weight. From personal expeiance, the Milt Sparks VM2 is the best way to carry a full-size pistol concealed. I used it when I was concealing my Beretta M9, and it just disappeared. If you have the money to get a second carry piece, you might jus be better served investing that money in some top of the line carry leather instead. Good luck whichever way you choose.

MICHAEL T
September 10, 2012, 11:07 PM
I have found my KelTec PF-9 fits my 1911 holsters, like made for them I always buy holster for Commander or Compact, size 1911 . Little difference in barrel length but other wise good fit. In my Miami Classic 1911 shoulder holster. Its a perfect fit. Has became my bike holster under my jacket .

mljdeckard
September 11, 2012, 02:55 AM
I carry a full-size 1911 year-round. I usually use a Crossbreed Supertuck, plus a 1 mag/1 flashlight pouch on the weak side. 100+ degree summers, whatever, I don't change.

Ramone
September 11, 2012, 11:10 AM
Take a good long look at the CCO size 1911-

it's an Officer ACP sized grip (6 in the mag) with a Commander sized barrel (4" or so).

It strikes me as being a great compromise between the reliabilty of the full size and the concelablity of the Officers Model

SIG makes a nice one that I have actually fired a bit. I am one the verge of buying one to replace my Colt Officers ACP.

CFletch08
September 11, 2012, 10:18 PM
I have had good luck CCing a Beretta 90-two in an IWB holster from an outfit called SHTF Gear. they make good hybrid holsters at a great price ($60 iirc). The Beretta is not a small gun by any means, and since the main issue with concealment is width I would think a 1911 could disappear in that style holster. My piece conceals just fine under a tshirt in 100 degree CA weather so your 1911 should work just fine where you are.

Also, as others have said, a good belt is really the key to it all working. I use an overbuilt rigger-type belt from Original SOE Gear but the wilderness instructor belt does almost as well for less.

ZVP
September 12, 2012, 01:40 AM
Obviouslly a large caliber handgun is best but a Chief's Special is really hard to beat crrying it concealled. Even with rubber grips it is a SMALL package! FPE is adequate for the task at hand and if needed you could go with the sweet little Ruger Revolver.
The .38 special is no slouch!
I have herd it suggested that instead of reloading, simply carry another revolver and actually this idea carrys much merit whwn it comes to getting a second reloaded revolver in the fight! Of course cost sorta makes this somewhat impratical...
For the mode of carry, I prefer a pocket carry because you can get the gun into action q1uicklly! Your pocket nees to be empty, just the gun. Secondly a good belt holster is fast as an inside the belt. Here you need to be able to grasp the grip quicklly. an IWB(not covered by a shirt) hides the outline of the weqapon well.ANkle holsters are another good place to conceal the weapon but cumbersome to put into action. Best for a back-up situation.
You'll likely try several and in the end it is a highly personal decision.
ZVP

blakec3686
September 13, 2012, 12:16 AM
oh man you guys great, thank you so much for all the replies . I'm going to try both the vm2 and the super tuck before i decide to buy anything else (i may still get a snub revolver just for the heck of it thought lol).

1911 guy
September 13, 2012, 12:43 AM
I carry a 5" 1911 summer and winter. There are a few things you need.

1) A real gunbelt. I like Wilderness Products "instructor belt". The 1 1/2" five-stitch works well for me and only costs about 40 bucks.

2) A good holster. The cheap knock-offs of good holsters are alright for the range, but fall short in the real world. That's why they're cheaper. You'll probably want to look into an IWB (Inside the Waist Band) holster. Almost anything by Sparks, DeSantis, Safariland, Galco, 5-Shot, etc. Will work, depending on your personal tastes, needs and budget. I happen to like Galco simply because I can buy off the shelf locally, but am under no illusions that they are any better than the others mentioned.

3) I've yet to see a good tuckable holster for a full size handgun, but someone may well have figured it out by now. I just count on needing an untucked polo shirt or similar.

4) The hardest part of a handgun to conceal is the grip, so going "short" with a 1911 type may not get you what you think it does. The "FBI cant" does a lot to help concealment by tilting the handgun at an approximately 30 degree angle, effectively shortening the distance from centerline to the end of the grip frame. Some people find it uncomfortable due to body shape, most find it more comfortable than straight up and down.

Everybody else has also offered some pretty god ideas about options.

skiwi
September 13, 2012, 02:44 AM
Since you are familiar with 1911s, I would suggest you look at the Springfield Armory EMPS in 9mm and 40 S&W. The 9mm which I have its an aluminum frame to help with weight. The EMP was designed around the 9mm cartridge, so the frame is actually smaller than most regular 3" 1911s in 9mm, which share the regular frame of a 45.

I carry with a Crossed Superficial. Very comfortable.

EMNofSeattle
September 13, 2012, 02:58 AM
personally I'd carry either a Glock 19 or a smith model 36 concealed. but if you want .45 then the Glock 30 SF is likely to be a good fit for you.

FMF Doc
September 13, 2012, 01:17 PM
You could also look at a 1911 with the bob-tail style grip. They round off the back bottom of the grip almolst like a beretta 92. It isn't a whole lot of material, but the decrfease in printing factor is. HUGE.

PRM
December 6, 2012, 11:23 PM
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BlindJustice
December 7, 2012, 11:51 AM
Well, yeah, my carry handgun is a 1911 so it's Cocked & Locked.

If I had a holster for my range gun, CZ 75B DA/SA 9mm - although
ithasa thumb safety I would opt for manualy dropping the hammer
to the 'safety' notch position ( as the CZ manual refers to it)
& carry with DA for first shot.

andofcoursewithany DA revolver it's a moot point.

R-

BlindJustice
December 7, 2012, 12:08 PM
My carry 'rig"

Milt Sparks #Axiom OWB w/FBI Cant of 10? degrees.
MIlt Sparks 1 1 1/2" gun belt
& Milt Saprks IWB single mag holder

Usually wear a multi-pocket vest

I'dlike a Commander with it's 4/25: Bbl./Slide
and bobtailthe MSH

R-

pcad2
December 7, 2012, 12:56 PM
I have recently Traded my Kimber Eclipse, which i loved, for a Kimber Ultra Carry, which I also love. Im a 1911 guy too and while bigger than you, I still had trouble finding a way to conceal the full size 1911. Too much grip poking out. too much barrel poking me in the hip.

That said, Im thoroughly impressed with the SA XDS model in 45 acp. To hold one in your hand feels almost as good as the 1911 and if I was going to get one that wasnt a 1911 for carry id buy one in a minute. I can carry IWB but prefer to carry on my belt just behind my right hip.

BSA1
December 7, 2012, 03:15 PM
If you want to stay with the 1911 type manual of arms a overlooked choice is the Star Firestar.

The Star Firestar operates the same as the 1911 sans the gripsafety. It is much smaller the full size 1911 and all steel which helps to soak up recoil but at the expense of being a bit heavy to carry. The Sparks EX IWB holster is a excellent way to carry the Firestar and spread the weight.

The Firestar can be had in 9mm, 40 and 45. The 9mm is my personal choice. It is a proven reliable gun.

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