Avg price on Ruger New BlackHawk 50th anniversary edition?


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Josh45
September 8, 2012, 01:36 PM
I wanted to get your guys opinion on a Ruger New BlackHawk chambered in .357 mag, and it is a 50th anniversary edition.
Comes with box, two keys, and it's manual and the fired shell.

It looks like it has never been shot. Extremely clean condition.
No scuff marks and what not. Basically, brand new.
Except, it's used. New tag in the box was $519 IIRC.

Before finding that tag inside the box, the LGS had it marked at $500.
My question is, if my father is getting ripped off? I mean he liked it, wanted it an all that but he also asked me to look it up afterwards.

Yeah I know he is old enough to make his own decision and all since it will be his, it's up to him. But like I said, he was asking if I can find any more info price wise. I did a small search and to what I read it used to go for $350-$400 2-3 years ago.

Also if it matters, it does say "1955-2005" in gold lettering on top of the firearm.
Also, I am in S.GA if it means anything. Wonder if it has more to with election year.....

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CraigC
September 8, 2012, 01:57 PM
My question is, if my father is getting ripped off?
Yes, by about $100 or more. I overpaid at $500 for mine but it was one of the first to ship. Later they were much less than that. CDNN even blew out the .44's for less than $400. So a used example should be $400, preferably less. I traded mine for a rifle tagged $350.

Jaymo
September 8, 2012, 02:10 PM
CDNN is a wholesaler. You still have to pay for shipping/transfer/sales tax. The cheapest I was able to get my NMBH .44 Spl was $499,00 + tax.
Honestly, ALL guns are way overpriced since '08. Rugers have been grossly overpriced since the ol' man kicked the bucket in '06.
I wouldn't even buy a Ruger, if I didn't like them so damned much.
Don't get me started on Glock prices.

minutemen1776
September 8, 2012, 02:41 PM
I sold one (in .357) at auction a few months back for about $400. That was the market then. I doubt much has changed in the short time since. A local shop, though, will certainly want to add in their margin, but that also means no shipping or transfer fees for you. Still, I would not pay more than $450 locally, and I'd start with an offer for $400.

Josh45
September 8, 2012, 03:25 PM
Maybe that's another thing to look at, most of the LGS here and pawn shop as well don't really have any of these particular revolvers on hand.
By that I mean, no Vaqueros or blackhawks and the like. More snubbie revolvers than everything else.

Either way, I think I will show him this thread and see what he says. If he still wants it after that, then as long as it makes him happy. Then who am I to say what he should buy...

CraigC
September 8, 2012, 03:26 PM
CDNN is a wholesaler.
Which does not change the fact that you could procure a brand new 50th anniversary .44 Blackhawk for around $400.

Hell, I can order a new .44Spl flat-top right now for $480 out the door with tax and all fees.

Everything has been expensive the last few years. The dollar is in the toilet and the cost of raw materials has risen sharply. Lead costs about twice what it did five years ago. Primers are up 50%. Gas is double and diesel is stupidly out of sight.

ozarkguy
September 8, 2012, 04:47 PM
I got my 50th Anniversary 357 about two years ago from CDNN for $359. They charged about $20 to ship it to my LGS, and he charged me $25 to do the transfer. No taxes. Total cost out the door was $405.

At the time, CDNN was closing out all of their remaining 50th Anniversary 357 and 44 mag flattops and I learned about the deal from someone on this forum or one of the others I am a member of. One of the advantages of being a gun forum member!

About a year later when Ruger started carrying the midframe 44 special as a regular catelog item, I had my LGS order me one for $450 plus tax.

I like Ruger single actions and enjoy both of my midframe flattops.

SharpsDressedMan
September 8, 2012, 06:03 PM
Some of you guys are quoting closeout prices from a year or more ago. Do you really think that answers the question, today? If you have not fired yours yet, and you want to sell it for the same low price that you bought if for way back when, please let the OP know. I'm thinking, supply met demand, now they MIGHT be hard to get for the same price, maybe hard to get at a higher price, or just hard to get PERIOD. I bought a Colt Python, new in the box, for $240. But of course, that was more than a few years ago, and that info would be of little help to a guy looking for the same gun now.

CraigC
September 8, 2012, 06:14 PM
I think it more than answers the question. They were $500 brand new when they were brand new and hot off brand new equipment. Think about it, it was Ruger's first flat-top in 43yrs, it was a really big deal in 2005 and we had no idea if any more flat-tops would ever be made. So yeah, based on that and several other things already stated, I think $500 for a used one is a good hundred bucks overpriced.

Watch these two and you will have your answer:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=304855747

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=305064369

gc70
September 9, 2012, 06:34 AM
The 50th anniversary .357 Blackhawks have recently tended to sell -slowly- for $400-$425 on the auction sites.

I am a little surprised that the anniversary Blackhawks have not gone up in price more than they have. A lot of guns spike in price shortly after they are no longer generally available. And the .357 version is the only model available if you want a mid-frame with adjustable sights.

CraigC
September 9, 2012, 11:09 AM
Yep, I've been kinda waiting for them to make it a regular production model but so far they haven't.

Josh45
September 9, 2012, 11:31 AM
Thank you everyone for your insight.
I had brought this up to him and explained what was said.
He didn't much like the idea of the price but he still liked it enough to go for it.

He has been looking for a revolver and this one just took to him.
So, to each his own I guess and like I said, If it makes him happy...
and yeah, It was the blued version with adjustable sights IIRC.

CraigC
September 9, 2012, 12:11 PM
If it makes him happy...
That's all that matters! In six months, he won't miss the money but he'd probably miss the sixgun. ;)

chicharrones
September 9, 2012, 12:18 PM
In six months, he won't miss the money but he'd probably miss the sixgun. ;)

Ain't that the truth! Sometimes you gotta jump on the gun even if it costs a tad more than you want to pay.

CraigC
September 9, 2012, 12:45 PM
That's right!

mavracer
September 9, 2012, 01:36 PM
He may have over paid market value but IMHO he didn't get screwed the 50th anniversary 357 would be well worth 5 bones, it's the only "proper sized" 357 with adjustable sights made in the last 40 years.

788Ham
September 9, 2012, 02:05 PM
A little off track here... I bought a Colt Trooper from a pawn last week, 4", 38 spl, 96% w/box, paid $ 425 OTD, some might say I paid too much also, but this gun appears to have not been shot much at all. No drag line on cylinder, original grips. The action is "almost" like my Python, when I saw it lying on the shelf, I couldn't get my money out quick enough! YMMV

CraigC
September 9, 2012, 02:19 PM
Except for the New Frontier. ;)

mavracer
September 9, 2012, 03:23 PM
Except for the New Frontier.
well if you got one of those for $500 I'll take it.;);)

CraigC
September 9, 2012, 03:55 PM
For that price, I'll take two or three! :p

Jaymo
September 9, 2012, 04:13 PM
How, exactly, do you get a wholesaler to ship a gun to your LGS without you paying for the shipping? They don't ship them for free. Shipping charges get rolled into the final price.

CraigC
September 9, 2012, 04:23 PM
You pay for the shipping but when the gun is $350, shipping is $20 and transfer fee is $25, that's less than $400.

Jaymo
September 9, 2012, 04:42 PM
When I ordered mine, it was $430.00 wholesale. Add in $20 shipping, $25 transfer fee, and sales tax, and It was right at $500.
If CDNN has the BH for $350, I need to order one in .45 Colt.
Or pay the extra money for the .45 LC/ACP convertible.

If I had an FFL (or if my buddy still had his) I could get them for wholesale.
If frogs had wings......

Thanks for the heads-up about CDNN, CraigC.

CraigC
September 9, 2012, 05:23 PM
CDNN is not a regular distributor. They buy discontinued models and guns that don't sell very well from other distributors at cut-rate prices. That's why they're so cheap but they don't carry everything.

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