Picked up a Rem 1187 yesterday


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wbwanzer
September 13, 2012, 09:40 AM
I'm the guy who had a thread last week asking for info on an ATA Arms SA-08. Couldn't really find too much about it other than made in Turkey. I didn't really have a problem with being made in Turkey, but the rest of this gun was sort of unknown. Should also mention that the gun was used.

So fast forward to yesterday: I stop in the gunshop to take another look at the ATA and find out if there was a manual with it. While there I discover a used Remington 11-87. Bingo. :D Looked great. 21" barrel and soft cell recoil pad. Sure it cost more than the ATA but I had to have it. Since I wanted it mainly for home defence the 21 inch barrel was perfect. It's not tacticool, but it's cool enough. I'm delighted with my purchase.

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mr.scott
September 13, 2012, 12:36 PM
Nice gun. How much did it cost ya?

wbwanzer
September 13, 2012, 12:57 PM
$500. Not sure if it's a great deal or not. But the gun looks barely used.

PT92
September 13, 2012, 07:50 PM
I'd say you did pretty good indeed for near mint condition. I have a couple of 1187's (below is my tactical model) and they're both rock solid reliable (though even when new I had to polish the chambers due to bad extraction).

Congrats on what many consider a true America Classic shotgun (nothing fancy but it just gets the job done :)).

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wbwanzer
September 13, 2012, 08:01 PM
Very nice, PT.

PT92
September 13, 2012, 08:09 PM
Very nice, PT.
Thx--Yours is essentially the same gun absent the extended mag.

-Cheers

spotch
September 13, 2012, 08:41 PM
The idea of a used 11-87 has crossed my mind more than once, though I'm not sure I'd trust it as much as a used 870.

PT92
September 13, 2012, 09:16 PM
The idea of a used 11-87 has crossed my mind more than once, though I'm not sure I'd trust it as much as a used 870.

Spotch,

Can you clarify as I don't follow how the 1187 is not as "trust-worthy" (though I'm assuming you're referring to reduced-recoil ammo perhaps)? Just curious.

-Cheers

oneounceload
September 13, 2012, 10:57 PM
Now clean it and go shoot it!

Kernel
September 14, 2012, 05:36 PM
With a 21" ribbed barrel I wonder if it was ment to be a Youth or Turkey gun. How long is the stock?

Kernel
September 14, 2012, 05:43 PM
FYI, an adult stock is 14", Youth is 13", and a Junior is 12".

wbwanzer
September 14, 2012, 06:43 PM
Kernal, not sure how to measure that. I'm kind of new to the SG scene. Mine did not come with a box. The one that I see on Remington's site that looks the same does say 'Model 11-87 Sportsman Youth Compact Synthetic'. So I bought a kid's gun. No big deal to me. I don't plan to use it a whole lot. I bought it for home defense but want to shoot it now and then at the range to keep familiar. Now if this thing is really fun to shoot and gives me no trouble, then who knows. I might become a shotgunner. :D When I bought my first handgun I never pictured owning as many as I do now.

Kernel
September 20, 2012, 11:13 PM
Besides the Youth model they had something called the Special Purpose Turkey, or something, with the 21" barrel. Probably others I don't know about. I think LOP is measured from the heel to the trigger.

I think a Youth gun is good for HD. There are advantages to a shorter gun, especially indoors, and most guys don't even notice the difference in LOP.

I have a 870 Compact Junior 20 gauge with 18 3/4" barrel. It's a short gun, like 36". Put on a Choate 2-shot extended mag, 4-round Blackhawk side saddle, steel Tru-Glo rifle sites that attach to the vent rib, rifled choke tube (I shoot Remington Buck Hammer slugs), swivel-stud (wood stock) and nylon sling. It's my mini home defense shotgun.

Virginian
September 21, 2012, 07:04 AM
Only real difference with a Youth model is the length of the buttstock. If you do have a short one the full length ones are hardly rare. Remington used to make a Special Field model with a 21" or 23" barrel and they were fairly popular among upland hunters.

wbwanzer
September 21, 2012, 08:54 AM
I'm pretty sure that what I have is the 'Model 11-87 Sportsman Youth Compact Synthetic'. Remington has a spacer kit if I need to increase the length.
I can't wait to try it. Hoping to get to the range one day next week.

spotch
December 4, 2012, 09:32 PM
PT92:

Sorry I didn't respond to this *way* sooner lol. I just came across this thread again as I continue to kick around the idea of an 11-87.

I probably should've been more clear in my post... I guess what worries me about it is that I've read about increased sensitivity to trap-type loads over other guns.

Still, all these months later and the remington rebate on 1187s has me *awfully* tempted... It's still a hair more than I'd like to spend, and a longer barrel than I'd like (I'd like something that could double for HD duty and 26" is a tad long), but still... I'm quite tempted.

PT92
December 5, 2012, 09:59 AM
PT92:

Sorry I didn't respond to this *way* sooner lol. I just came across this thread again as I continue to kick around the idea of an 11-87.

I probably should've been more clear in my post... I guess what worries me about it is that I've read about increased sensitivity to trap-type loads over other guns.

Still, all these months later and the remington rebate on 1187s has me *awfully* tempted... It's still a hair more than I'd like to spend, and a longer barrel than I'd like (I'd like something that could double for HD duty and 26" is a tad long), but still... I'm quite tempted.
Yeah I know what you mean as far as finding the 'perfect' all-purpose shotgun. It can be done but I always recommend a HD shotgun and a separate skeet/trap/hunting shotgun. And this can be done absent breaking the bank as well.

I have heard many people complain about the 1187P's inability to reliably cycle bird-shot and I too as an owner of one can attest to this. But I did not buy my 1187P with any 'dillusions' of running bird-shot--On the contrary I planned on using heavy-duty ammo only and as such I could not be happier. And as previosuly mentioned, I have other shotguns for other purposes.

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spotch
December 6, 2012, 09:29 PM
good points, thanks for the response!

PT92
December 6, 2012, 10:00 PM
good points, thanks for the response!
No problem--Keep us posted as to how things go.

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45crittergitter
December 19, 2012, 05:21 PM
If I still had my 11-87, I'd give it to you for nothing.

soonerfan85
December 20, 2012, 02:19 PM
Not trying to start a 1187 deabte, as I know some owners have had problems, but my experience with the 1187 and light loads was quite different. I borrowed a coworker's 1187 super mag to use in a sporting clay shoot earlier this year and out of 100 shots of 2 3/4" 1oz #8s it cycled every shell except one. That could have had something to do with the fact the gun was used for duck hunting and wasn't really as clean as it should have been. Anyway, if you're looking at a used 1187, shoot a few light loads through it first and if it cycles them buy it and don't look back.

PT92
December 20, 2012, 03:00 PM
Not trying to start a 1187 deabte, as I know some owners have had problems, but my experience with the 1187 and light loads was quite different. I borrowed a coworker's 1187 super mag to use in a sporting clay shoot earlier this year and out of 100 shots of 2 3/4" 1oz #8s it cycled every shell except one. That could have had something to do with the fact the gun was used for duck hunting and wasn't really as clean as it should have been. Anyway, if you're looking at a used 1187, shoot a few light loads through it first and if it cycles them buy it and don't look back.
I don't doubt you in that my 1187 is the Police tactical model (much shorter barrel, gas diff. etc.). I likes the heavy stuff but that's why I bought it.

-Happy Holidays

XTrooper
December 21, 2012, 03:53 PM
The 1100/11-87 shotgun family single-handedly destroyed the reputation of the semi-automatic shotgun within the police community to such a degree that currently they are rarely considered or adopted. That's a fact.
The only glimmer of hope for the future of the autoloading shotgun in police work is the fact that the military, and most enthusiastically, the Marine Corps, has adopted the Benelli M4 and some progressive departments like the LAPD have followed suit. I predict that eventually the pump gun will go the way of the revolver within police organizations, but I'm not sure I'll live long enough to see it.
There's nothing wrong with the 1100/11-87 system if the individual owner properly maintains it, as evidenced by the experiences of some even in this thread, but it is nowhere near robust enough for the long-term heavy use and abuse weapons typically have to endure in a military/law enforcement application.
Hopefully, police departments will give guns like the M4 and Remington's Versa Max a fair shake and, if they do, I think we'll see the tide begin to change.

Virginian
December 21, 2012, 06:01 PM
The 1100/11-87 shotgun family single-handedly destroyed the reputation of the semi-automatic shotgun within the police community to such a degree that currently they are rarely considered or adopted. That's a fact.
Hey, you're not giving the Ithaca Mag-10 Roadblocker anywhere near enough credit.

Red Cent
December 21, 2012, 06:48 PM
Get a setof Hi-Viz sights and mount them on the rib. Great for HD. A little busy for clays or those feathered covered animals.

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kris7047th
December 21, 2012, 06:50 PM
I bought a youth/compact 20 gauge last May. Your SN is very close to mine. I had a mag tube extender added to mine, and I really like this SG. Very accurate. Don't be surprised that you have issues with low brass not cycling .. especially with Winchester and Federal. I had to break mine in with Remington, and put some slugs through it .. had no problems. After about 50 rnds it was fine with Federal bought from Walmart.

XTrooper
December 22, 2012, 08:16 AM
Hey, you're not giving the Ithaca Mag-10 Roadblocker anywhere near enough credit.
LOL Now you're showing your age.

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