Blackhawk .357 - it ain't purdy, but it'll do


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Quoheleth
September 13, 2012, 10:32 PM
I bought this today on Gunbroker http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/305337000/305337484/pix060334375.jpg

I had been looking for a .41 Mag, but didn't want to pay the prices they are commanding. When I saw the price on this one, and it had the desired 6.5" barrel and wood grips, I decided to throw down a bid.

She's been rode hard, that's for sure, but for a $266 winning bid, I figured it's a Ruger - it gets better with age. Can't hardly wear 'em out. Finish isn't much to brag on, but I want a shooter. With it looking like that I don't have to sweat it if it gets a scratch on it. What do you think? Is this a pretty safe bet?

It'll be Monday or Tuesday before it gets here, so the hard part is the wait.

Q

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W.E.G.
September 13, 2012, 10:36 PM
Shooter!

Jaymo
September 13, 2012, 10:47 PM
Blackhawks are sweet. Like you said, it's a Ruger. It's got it where it counts.
Besides, since it's a shooter and not a collector, you can always get it reblued.

I wonder how it would look with a dark gray parkerized finish?

firesky101
September 13, 2012, 10:53 PM
It's no NIB colt, but she looks good enough. Shoot, enjoy, repeat.

W.E.G.
September 13, 2012, 10:53 PM
I think it looks GREAT with the honest finish it wears.

Please don't spoil it with some expensive buff-down refinish, acid bath, or spray paint.

Walkalong
September 13, 2012, 11:00 PM
.41 Mag...... it's a Ruger.... $266 winning bidSweet. Nice pick up. :)

BCRider
September 13, 2012, 11:27 PM
It looks like some good honest wear to me. And thanks to the "patina" it has you don't need to fret over that "First Scratch" like it was a new gun.... :D

Frankly I find that some slight to moderate amount of honest wear actually makes me like a gun all the more. Sure, it isn't a shiney new penny that catches the light. But it's like a "lightly aging" older person that still looks good with grey hair and a few light character wrinkles.... I had to say that since I like to think I fit the bill.... :D

Personally the most I would do to it is have the muzzle crown re-done if it proves to be anything less than a tack driver despite trying to find the load it likes the best.

Jaymo
September 13, 2012, 11:46 PM
I will be the voice of dissent. I like a nice, deep blue. I'm not a fan of finish wear.
Problem is, I like to shoot mine, too.

Arkansas Paul
September 13, 2012, 11:51 PM
I'd take that for $266 all day long.
I have a Blackhawk in .45 Colt. I want a 4 5/8" in .357 mag.
The .41 you're wanting would be sweet as well.

W.E.G.
September 13, 2012, 11:58 PM
I believe this was the one he got.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=305337484

Quoheleth
September 14, 2012, 12:02 AM
W.E.G. - that's the one! The other photos show the wear on the gun, especially the trigger guard.

Thanks,
Q

bikemutt
September 14, 2012, 12:22 AM
Rode hard? Hardly rode from the ones I've seen around here, and in .41 mag to boot. Nice find.

CraigC
September 14, 2012, 12:27 AM
I'd like to find one like that to "spoil" by turning it into a custom Bisley .500. :D

Salmoneye
September 14, 2012, 07:33 AM
Carry wear, but looking at the turn line, it has not been shot much...

I also would like a .41 Mag, but like you will wait till I get one for my price...

Keep looking, and sooner or later one will come to both of us...

Till then, enjoy the .357!!!

bannockburn
September 14, 2012, 09:04 AM
For the price, i think you did just fine. Looks to be used but not abused. Enjoy.

The Lone Haranguer
September 14, 2012, 01:00 PM
Ruger could refurbish it for relatively low cost. Being already a New Model, there are no worries about its having a "safety conversion" put in it.

floydster
September 14, 2012, 01:04 PM
Leave it as it is, I love my worn Blackhawks--they get better with age:)
Smokeyloads

murf
September 14, 2012, 01:51 PM
those guns are meant to be "rode hard and put up wet". enjoy that fine weapon.

murf

p.s. the wet part means oil, not water.

foxtail207
September 14, 2012, 06:45 PM
Congrats. I looked at that same Ruger last week before buying another.

mesinge2
September 14, 2012, 06:55 PM
That wear is not too bad to me. I'd rather have honest carry wear than pitting and rust anyday! I have a m19-4 with some wear and it is a favorite shooter of mine.

tightgroup tiger
September 14, 2012, 07:28 PM
I want to tell you something about older blackhawks, I get a 1 1/2" group out of mine off hand at 20 yds.

Mine is a 1968 4 screw

for some reason I can't get a picture of mine to upload.

MikeJackmin
September 14, 2012, 08:33 PM
Looks perfect to me. Safe queens are guns you're saving for someone else. Shooters are the guns you have for yourself.

Jaymo
September 14, 2012, 09:39 PM
I love my .44 Special Blackhawk. I bought it in July and have put a couple hundred rounds through it. Blackhawks are great revolvers.

mesinge2
September 14, 2012, 09:55 PM
Looks perfect to me. Safe queens are guns you're saving for someone else. Shooters are the guns you have for yourself.
Good line!

And I agree

Jaymo
September 14, 2012, 10:02 PM
Oh, and, you're damned right, it'll do. It'll do very well, and for a long, long time.

Lawdawg45
September 16, 2012, 09:46 AM
Just remember, looking purdy never won the fight!:D

LD

JaxJim
September 16, 2012, 11:15 AM
I think it's purdy! Nothing wrong with a firearm with some honest wear. It means it was loved and enjoyed by it's previous owner(s).

tubeshooter
September 17, 2012, 10:16 PM
I just picked up something like this recently. A NM Blackhawk in .357 with the short barrel, made in '73.

Mine has obviously seen use, but still seems very solid. Lots of character marks...


Congrats. I am pretty new to the whole single-action thing and I like mine very much!

mavracer
September 17, 2012, 11:40 PM
I wouldn't mind the finish as is, working guns are nice to have around. If I was to get it refinished, I'd probably send it to Turnbull for a nice charcoal blue and a color cased frame. but that's just me, I've been wanting a CCHed Blackhawk every since I seen Dave Clement's Jeff Quinn 44 Special
http://www.clementscustomguns.com/images/600_Barrantti44Special.jpg

MCgunner
September 17, 2012, 11:47 PM
Range report when available?

Nice. Mine's not rode as much. :D But, I use it for hunting, mostly, and range plinking. If you wanna hunt with it, in Texas, I think you'll find it'll kill anything a .41 will just as dead. Hogs? I've taken a few with the .357. I handload to about 760 ft lbs shooting a 165 cast SWC. I load a very accuraate 180 grain XTP to 1400 fps, about 785 ft lbs, but haven't killed anything with that one, yet. It's VERY accurate.

Quoheleth
September 18, 2012, 10:53 AM
Over the weekend, I noticed my seller sent this gun via UPS *ground*. It's not illegal but it is against UPS policy. It should be here tomorrow. Talk about slow boat to China... While it was a lot cheaper than overnight ($15 vs ~$50), it apparently sat in the UPS of origin from Friday thru Monday - that's when I got the first tracking update info. Frustrating! So much for a range trip on my day off...

Hopefully it'll be here for the weekend. I've got a couple boxes of ammo rolled up for my GP100 - a nice stiff (but not obnoxious) 158gr SWC load, and a serious thumper with 180gr LRNFPs.

Q

W.E.G.
September 18, 2012, 11:36 AM
Did you REALLY think the seller was going to spend $65 to $100 to ship that pistol next day air?

example - chart to ship from east coast to Chicago

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/trivia/ups.jpg

http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/ship/packaging/guidelines/firearms.html

Handguns, as defined by 18 U.S.C. § 921, will be accepted for transportation only via UPS Next Day Air Services, specifically, UPS Next Day AirŪ Early A.M.Ū, UPS Next Day AirŪ, and UPS Next Day Air SaverŪ.


Seller WILL have to eat the loss if the package no-shows at destination, or is damaged in transit.

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Quoheleth
September 18, 2012, 12:03 PM
Not really. He listed $25 as shipping price so I assumed it would be USPS' Priority Shipping. I have lost count of the number of guns my FFL has received that way, and I've gotten used to having the purchased gun in my mitts in 2-4 business days.

Oh, well.

Flip side of that coin, I bought a Colt DS earlier this year on GB. The "Buy it Now" deal included shipping. The high bid was $350; BIN was $375. Glad I did it that way, as she later emailed and said she had to cough up that $65 shipping. If I think of it that way, I got the Colt for $315!

Q

CraigC
September 18, 2012, 01:26 PM
Did you REALLY think the seller was going to spend $65 to $100 to ship that pistol next day air?
Uh, yeah! That or Priority Mail.


Seller WILL have to eat the loss if the package no-shows at destination, or is damaged in transit.
Seller doesn't 'have' to eat anything. He has your money and you have no pistol.

W.E.G.
September 18, 2012, 02:20 PM
I assumed it would be USPS' Priority Shipping.

I see the seller claims to be an FFL-holder, so he could have made use of USPS for shipping a handgun.

I wonder whether the "overnight only" policy applies between UPS and FFL's.
I'm willing to bet that Walmart does not get their Mossberg 500's off an airplane, and I'm willing to bet that the shipments are properly declared at the time of pickup, and are properly insured. How that insurance is achieved for volume FFL shippers would be an interesting thing to know.

The last used pistol I bought off Gunbroker was shipped UPS ground from Kentucky to Virginia. Took about 3 weeks to reach my FFL guy, including an extended layover in New Jersey, just outside of NYC. I'll never understand that one.

CraigC
September 18, 2012, 02:52 PM
I wonder whether the "overnight only" policy applies between UPS and FFL's.
Yep!


I'm willing to bet that Walmart does not get their Mossberg 500's off an airplane
They don't. The overnight policy only applies to handguns.

LTR shooter
September 18, 2012, 04:46 PM
Nice buy on the 357 Blackhawk. It looks far better than I thought it would after reading the post.

I've owned a few of the 6 1/2" Blackhawk 357s and one 4 5/8" too. One thing they all had in common was excellent accuracy.

I now have a 1976 "Liberty" stainless Blackhawk , also in 357 and with the 6 1/2" barrel. That one has been fired just a few times so far.

Quoheleth
September 21, 2012, 01:55 AM
Quick overview of the gun after picking it up today:

The photos did not do it justice at all. The worst wear is at the muzzle and tip of the ejector rod housing, and the scuff on the trigger guard. There are some minor scuffs elsewhere; nothing serious. It appears that the gun was only factory-fired. Only one chamber on the cylinder has powder blast at its mouth. Cylinders are all clean of powder burns and the bore is clean and sharp - again, no residue. It could have been sonic cleaned but there is almost zero turn ring here, folks, so I have - mechanically speaking - what appears to be a brand new gun. This is all the more amazing because the SN is a high 33- range, making it a 1977 DOM. The grips are dirty, but a little Murphy oil soap or a wood cleaner will bring them right back to life.
The trigger pull is very heavy and the loading gate is very tight. . I wonder if it's old grease has "set up" a bit? Hope a little solvent and CLP slicks it up a bit.

I wish this gun could talk...I wonder where its been all its life?

ApacheCoTodd
September 21, 2012, 11:34 AM
Looks about right to me... well, once those nasty grips are binned. I like the look of use in a gun.

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