[gfanikf]

In short I have a chane to get both for exactly the same amount of money(650)...sadly I can't get both.

The M1 Garand is pretty much a complete H&R that if graded would be just below the cmp correct rank.

The Marlin is in great condition and also comes with dies, brass, and bullets. Just needs some trail boss powder.

I really want both. Lol I already have reload stuf for the 3006 but it's geared towards hunting. A part of me really wants a semi auto centerfire (even if I can't hunt with it in PA)...but another wants to shoot an insanely massive cartridge.

[Ash]

I'd go with the Garand.

[friscolatchi]

A Garand for 650? Don't hesitate. You can always get the Marlin.

[Arp32]

Easy, Garand! I'd get a lot more satisfaction out it the M1

[gfanikf]

Pics of my new Garand. Thanks for the advice everyone..so what do people think?

http://i.imgur.com/XUauF.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/32WCj.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/LiyvA.jpg?1

[friscolatchi]

Boy, that was quick! What, does the seller live down the hall? Great gun, I'm jealous.

[BadMitten]

Score!

[Arp32]

The High Road gets results

[griff383]

Very nice grab, youll have lots of fun playing with that. Be warned though they can be addictive and they have relatives from the same era that are just as enticing

[gfanikf]

Very nice grab, youll have lots of fun playing with that. Be warned though they can be addictive and they have relatives from the same era that are just as enticing
Sadly in the semi area they are really expensive...well unless you're a Canadian and you can get a dirt cheap SVT! :cuss:

Boy, that was quick! What, does the seller live down the hall? Great gun, I'm jealous.
They are the pictures they sent to me earlier, who is in the next state overl. I left out the reciever shot as I can't blur out the serial, not that I tend to care much about that.

The High Road gets results
Yes it does though the Marlin seller offered to add loaded rounds and a pound of powder, but I figured that with the Marlin the reloading package was more the appeal and the cartridge itself va the gun.

[dodge]

As I own both a M1 and a Marlin 1895 guide gun I have more fun shooting the M1 and wish that I could hunt with it. Well maybe someday the Pa game Commission will allow it.

[SaxonPig]

Do I get to pick out your next car and girlfriend, too?

The two rifles are apples and oranges. Pick the one that you want most and don't worry about what other people say.

Sheesh...

[gfanikf]

As I own both a M1 and a Marlin 1895 guide gun I have more fun shooting the M1 and wish that I could hunt with it. Well maybe someday the Pa game Commission will allow it.
I would too, Garand would be great to hunt with.




Do I get to pick out your next car and girlfriend, too?

The two rifles are apples and oranges. Pick the one that you want most and don't worry about what other people say.

Sheesh...
I was leaning towards the M1 (if only for cost of ammo...which wasn't the only reason)for and was interested if anyone could think of a good reason why a Marlin might be better.


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[MistWolf]

I would not hesitate getting a Garand in good shape for $650. I really like my Marlin 45-70 but the Garand is a better deal

[gfanikf]

I would not hesitate getting a Garand in good shape for $650. I really like my Marlin 45-70 but the Garand is a better deal
That was kind of my though, especially for the Condition it's in.

From the seller
. It is SN 4,746,1XX, has a ME of 1 and if I recall the te is about 1. I measured the TE a couple years with a friends gauge. Itshoots great. I have only put 4 clips through it since I have owned it. All parts appear to be correct to me and the bold is electric penciled with the SN. A small plug is in the stock which you should be able to see in the pics.

[ArchAngelCD]

I can't believe you found such a nice Garand for only $650, not bad at all!

Now we need a range report...

[gfanikf]

I can't believe you found such a nice Garand for only $650, not bad at all!

Now we need a range report...
Yeah, I put an offer out on the CMP forums asking for something that was shooter level, because I move at the end of Oct and I don't want to risk still waiting for the CMP, and I got several offers, mixmatches (all people being very honest and upfront I should say) and this one came along. As the buyer said if not for the stock it would be correct grade. I'm making sure my insurance policy is up to date.

I can't wait to do a range report, but I need some ammo first. I know the rule is don't use non-surplus unless like the new Privi or some AE, it's mentioned as being loaded with the Garand in mind. That said I have some Lake City Brass, Primers, Varget powder at the ready, I just need some bullets...though the Nosler ones I have are the right weight...I just want to save those for my hunting loads.

[Jspy]

Good score ! The Garand is my favorite rifle and I believe most gunners should have at least one.

[carbine85]

That's a nice score. From the pictures posted I would say it's closer to a Service Grade.

[adelbridge]

NICE Garand will appreciate in value too

[paintballdude902]

good move. the garands are slowly going away a going up in price. theyre still making the GG

[Jeff H]

you definitely made the better choice. I love my garand and shoot it often. You can always find another Marlin when you have more funds.

[harvester]

Greatest battle implement ever devised.

[gfanikf]

Range report incoming with any luck tonight.

My range doesn't have the Federal Garand specific ammo, what 3006 commercial ammo is not safe to use in the Garand?

[TenDriver]

The stock on that Garand has a lot of character. I bought an SG Springfield from the CMP in new wood. I love it, but yours has a lot more character than mine. You'll enjoy it.

[Reloadron]

Well I am a little late with ammo suggestions but I have used Remington 150 grain FMJ UMC stuff without a problem as well as most US Manufactured 150 Grain FMJ off the shelf common stuff without a problem.

How did things go?

Ron

[gfanikf]

Well I am a little late with ammo suggestions but I have used Remington 150 grain FMJ UMC stuff without a problem as well as most US Manufactured 150 Grain FMJ off the shelf common stuff without a problem.

How did things go?

Ron
I didn't I had a range guy look it over and I missinstalled the bullet guide. Not hard to fix, but prefer to do that at home. He also suggested I get the headspacing checked first and despite nothing to suggest otherwise blowing my gun up doesn't seem fun.


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[Fishbed77]

That's a nice score. From the pictures posted I would say it's closer to a Service Grade.

Proabably so. Visually, it looks closer to a Field Grade (but no doubt has more correct parts).

Even Service Grades are coming from the CMP looking pretty awesome these days. I received a SG Springfield back in June of this year, and the finish is amazing - 97% or better, I'd say. Just some finish wear on the op-rod handle and a few scratches on the gas cylinder lock.

[Reloadron]

I didn't I had a range guy look it over and I missinstalled the bullet guide. Not hard to fix, but prefer to do that at home. He also suggested I get the headspacing checked first and despite nothing to suggest otherwise blowing my gun up doesn't seem fun.


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Oh, a little My Bad there as without any reason I just assumed it was a CMP gun. Foolish of me. Absolutely, have the head space checked. Checking the head space on a Garand is a relatively easy process that involves stripping the bolt and using a few head space gauges for the 30-06 cartridge. Any competent smith can do that for you. If you get a good smith familiar with the M1 Garand they can also look the rifle over in general.

While the stock looks a little rough and oil saturated if you want it can likely be refinished into a nice piece of walnut and oiled to a nice luster. Myself or any of several members here would be happy to explain a few methods for cleaning it up and refinishing it.

Ron

[1944m1garand]

GARAND!!!! Always! Favorite....semi....ever! Only problem is that they are getting old and eventually someday in the far future, the parts will dry up :(

[Fishbed77]

GARAND!!!! Always! Favorite....semi....ever! Only problem is that they are getting old and eventually someday in the far future, the parts will dry up

With well over 6 million made (and innumerable spare parts), that day will be long after we (and our great-great-great grandchildren) are gone.

[Neo-Luddite]

Nice M-1! Order some ammo from CMP. You made a hard choice; we got my F in Law a Marlin GG for his 50th Birthday about nine years back--he has enjoyed it very much. Here in IL--you can't hunt with ANY rifle (for deer anyway).

Hey--in PA could you hunt w a Garand set up as a straight pull bolt gun by turning off the gas sytem? They sell capacity limiting en-bloc clips also. Just a thought. An M-1 would be a heavy, but serious, deer rifle with a great range with plain iron sights.

[gfanikf]

I didn't I had a range guy look it over and I missinstalled the bullet guide. Not hard to fix, but prefer to do that at home. He also suggested I get the headspacing checked first and despite nothing to suggest otherwise blowing my gun up doesn't seem fun.<br />
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Oh, a little My Bad there as without any reason I just assumed it was a CMP gun. Foolish of me. Absolutely, have the head space checked. Checking the head space on a Garand is a relatively easy process that involves stripping the bolt and using a few head space gauges for the 30-06 cartridge. Any competent smith can do that for you. If you get a good smith familiar with the M1 Garand they can also look the rifle over in general. <br />
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While the stock looks a little rough and oil saturated if you want it can likely be refinished into a nice piece of walnut and oiled to a nice luster. Myself or any of several members here would be happy to explain a few methods for cleaning it up and refinishing it.<br />
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Ron

Well it was originally CMP gun, but the person only had 4 clips through it. So I can't verify it was safe...I mean I'm sure it is...but the range officer seemed very wary of them, despite owning two.

Love tips on wood restoration, but would it risk the value of the gun? If its restoration, like cleaning it than thats fine. My dad actually makes his own walking sticks and stains the wood himself. So perhaps we could do it together.

Regarding posts on CMP ammo. I would be fine with that but I'm moving at the end of the month and while I'm hopeful my wife and I will have that locked up by this weekend. However one doesn't exactly get ammo forwarded to a new address. Its why I didnt get the gun from the CMP.
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[Reloadron]

Love tips on wood restoration, but would it risk the value of the gun? If its restoration, like cleaning it than that's fine.

Cleaning the wood and refinishing the stock will not take away from the value of the rifle. For example looking at the images you posted the stock looks to have the original Korean Era Department of Defense 1/2" box cartouche. The idea is to clean and remove excess oil but not sand the car cartouche away.

Below is a Korean Era Springfield Armory rifle. The stock on this rifle happens to be birch which is actually correct for this rifle, When the stock was refinished and oiled the cartouche was maintained, Actually it was a light stamp to begin with.

http://bearblain.com/images/Stocks%204.png

While a great shooter rifles like this really don't have a high collector value. Not when compared for example to a 1943 Winchester with all correct parts. So cleaning up your rifle and refinishing the wood really won't take away from the rifle's value.

The wood on the pictured rifle began by looking like this:

http://bearblain.com/images/Stocks%20Sink%201.png

The wood you see is soaking in hot water and TSP (Tri Sodium Phosphate). Yes, that is a large rock holding the stocks down and they got flipped every few hours and rubbed with the scotchbrite.

No stain was used and the stock was oiled using Birchwood Casey Tru-Oil which amounts to boiled linseed oil with a drying agent, Steel wool was used before and during the oil applications. Not great but not bad either. :)

There are other methods and oils that can be used. There are also little tricks to raise dents and dings in the wood.

That particular rifle was an old DCM (Pre CMP) rifle I got almost 20 years ago.

Ron

[Gordon_Freeman]

Please don't refinish that stock. That would definitely damage collector value. It removes all the historic patina. All you really need to do is rub pure tung oil, raw linseed oil, or boiled linseed oil into it to clean it a little. You can buy new production stocks if you want to mess around with refinishing and making it look new.

[Neo-Luddite]

M-1 stocks aren't so much to be refinished, as they are maintained. Linseed oil and --maybe--some beeswax are all needed for care. As said, there are tricks (as above) to pulling out dents and ground in grime. For me, I'd take my time and and not worry too much just yet. If the stock is dry, work her over with some linseed and 0000 steel wool, let dry a bit, and wipe of the excess. Make sure not to over oil as it will get gummy and may smoke if the weapon gets hot during extented fire. Gummy spots can be spot cleaned w a little alcohol. Spend some Quality time putting some rounds down range; Garands are patient companions and to my mind would always prefer being shot to being pampered.

[Reloadron]

Please don't refinish that stock. That would definitely damage collector value. It removes all the historic patina. All you really need to do is rub pure tung oil, raw linseed oil, or boiled linseed oil into it to clean it a little. You can buy new production stocks if you want to mess around with refinishing and making it look new.
What collector value? The rifle is a Korean Era H&R that is almost correct. While I have not looked at every part for correctness these rifles are for the most part shooters, they are not safe queens or highly sought after collectables. If you are a collector you buy the rifle and it becomes a safe queen. The lumber on that rifle looks lousy and refinishing it a little will not hurt the value of that rifle in my opinion and granted, just my opinion.

Ron

[gfanikf]

Hey--in PA could you hunt w a Garand set up as a straight pull bolt gun by turning off the gas sytem? They sell capacity limiting en-bloc clips also. Just a thought. An M-1 would be a heavy, but serious, deer rifle with a great range with plain iron sights.
Well Capacity isn't actually an issue for anything besides shotguns in PA. I think the gun has to be modified so it can't be easily switched back. Not sure it has to be a permanent one (http://forum.pafoa.org/hunting-23/176319-modified-semi-auto-hunting-legally-page-2.html#post2043433). I'd love using it as a straight pull though.

[DonP]

First, go to the CMP website and track down the serial number of your Garand to find out when it was issued and maybe even to which unit.

My first Garand was issued to the 1st Fleet Marine force in January of 1943, my late uncle's unit. My second was issued to the 101st Airborne in March of 1944. I wouldn't dream of refinishing either rifle.

Every scratch, gouge and dent on the first one's stock came from a island or atoll somewhere in the South Pacific. The other is a Danish "return" and VAR re-barrel, but before that it clawed it's way across Europe from D-Day to the Rhine and very likely spent some time in the Winter of '44 in the deep snow around Bastogne.

Don't be surprised if older guys at the range come over to watch you shoot it. Just be sure and offer them a chance to go through a clip, especially if they're "of a certain age" and have been there and back again.

I took my uncle Ray to the range, before he passed last year, and it took him about 3 rounds before he was slapping clips in and shooting dead on like he'd never put it down in 1945. He drove home with a huge smile on his face.