CZ 527 17 Hornet


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viking499
September 19, 2012, 08:33 AM
Might be old news, but I just saw it......

http://cz-usa.blogspot.com/2012/09/cz-527-in-17-hornet-available-jan-2013.html

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Temp430
October 3, 2012, 01:47 PM
I'm temped but I don't see the advantage over a 204 Ruger or 223 Rem. for that matter. The ammo is no cheaper.

joustin
October 3, 2012, 02:44 PM
Once you have enough spare brass it should be crazy cheap to reload.

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JohnM
October 3, 2012, 02:51 PM
Very cool. I'd been wondering if and when CZ would announce a rifle in that new .17.
Most of the new stuff that comes out anymore interests me not in the least, but this one does.
I've also long refrained from buying any new production fire arms, but I might just have to make an exception for this.

snakeman
October 3, 2012, 04:46 PM
remington should have made the 17 fireball ammo cheaper and available to other manufacturers. It truly is a better cartridge.

JHenry
October 3, 2012, 11:46 PM
so a 17 HMR is necked down from a 22 LR and a 17 hornet is necked down from WMR? Been awhile since i read anything about these but i think thats right?

If it is, thats cool as hell lol

EDIT: read over some of the article and its based off the 22 Hornet, which i dont even remotely remember the shape/dimensions, off to google!

EDIT 2: okay so the 17 HMR is necked down from the 22 WMR and the 17 hornet is a necked down centerfire round. man i was confused for a second

cfullgraf
October 3, 2012, 11:59 PM
The 17 Hornet is not in the same category as 223 Remington or 204 Ruger. It is a shorter range varmint round that would be less noisy for use in more populated areas.

Reloading the cartridge would be reasonable, but there are a limited number of 17 caliber bullets available. Definitely not the range of choices available for 22 caliber.

The Hornady and Berger 17 caliber bullets are great, but not inexpensive, I load and shoot them in my 17 Remingtons.

The 17 Hornet would be interesting to try.

JHenry
October 4, 2012, 12:04 AM
the 17 HMR craps out past 100 yards(or so ive heard) anyone have an idea on far the 17 Hornet goes before it starts destabilizing?

bracer
October 4, 2012, 02:24 AM
I have rifles chambered for the 17 HM2, 17 HMR rimfire cartridges and 17 Fireball , 17 Rem centerfire cartridges. A 17 Hornet will be added to my collection of 17 caliber rifles when a rifle comes out that I like. Most all of my shooting is at prairie dogs. I like low muzzle blast and low recoil firearns for shooting them. I live in prairie dog country and the 17 HM2 is good for shots out to about 120 yards and the 17 HMR for shots out about 150 yards. The 17 Fireball is good for shots out 300 yards. The 17 Hornet should be a good 225 yard prairie dog rifle. The 17 Rem is used for bigger varmints. I use a 204 Ruger rifle for longer shots at prairie dogs.

45crittergitter
October 6, 2012, 02:36 PM
Thanks for the heads-up, viking.

Anyone know if Browning is going to do a micro in the .17 Hornet?

I do know that Ruger is doing the 77/22 version.

Clayton86
October 7, 2012, 06:12 AM
I was gonna go this route but I have decided to go to a .17 Rem after some deliberating and research. It would make one hell of a nice fox gun if that's all you know will respond but we have some big coyotes pushing 80lbs so thats the main reason I changed my mind to the rem it wont blow up fox and will down a coyote with ease and the hornet reloaded with 30gr bergers is past its limits really.

j1
October 7, 2012, 08:26 AM
This seems like a great cartridge to me. I bought a 17 HMR because I saw and shot one. Wicked accurate and devestatingly explosive expansion. it makes pear juice from pears shot off the tree. I saw no pieces of pear falling, just a mist. If the 17 Hornet were available then I probably would have bought one. The only bad thing about the HMR is that I cannot reload for it. I love relooading my Hornet more than most cartridges as it is accurate and able to do most jobs well and I get 650 reloads to a pound of powder. The only bad thing might be holding those little 17 caliber bullets in the case neck as the ram comes up.

Bushpilot
October 7, 2012, 09:21 AM
I really want to add a CZ 527 to my collection of CZ's. However,despite the claim; "Lower cost and comparable quality (whatever comparable quality is) to a 17 Fireball and 223 Rem" there is no way that Hornady 17 Hornet factory loads are going to be "lower cost" to shoot than a 223. Also, there is really nothing new about this cartridge. Parker O. Ackley was shooting the 17 Ackley Hornet in the 1950's.

45crittergitter
November 6, 2012, 07:26 PM
According to today's apples-to-apples check of ammo on the MidwayUSA website, Hornady Superformance V-Max .17 Hornet ammo (the only flavor available) goes for $18.99 per 25 or about $0.76 each, while the similar Hornady Superformance V-Max .223 ammo is priced at $19.29 per 20 or about $0.96 each.

Bushpilot
November 8, 2012, 07:54 AM
According to today's apples-to-apples check of ammo on the MidwayUSA website, Hornady Superformance V-Max .17 Hornet ammo (the only flavor available) goes for $18.99 per 25 or about $0.76 each, while the similar Hornady Superformance V-Max .223 ammo is priced at $19.29 per 20 or about $0.96 each.

That is nonetheless a poor comparison since you are simply eliminating all of the other perfectly suitable .223 varmint hunting loads from other manufacturers that will still do anything a "Hornady Superformance V-Max .17 Hornet" will do, for less money......

For example, the same source, MidwayUSA, has Fiocchi, 55 gr. PSP, at $10.79 a box, or .54 each. Remington JHP is priced at $12.99 or .65 ea. 223 FMJ ammo of course can be found at even lower prices but has limited varmint hunting applications. The 17 (Ackley) Hornet may be a perfectly viable round but economy isn't the reason for it.

Temp430
November 8, 2012, 03:08 PM
I'm curious to see if another ammo manufacturer comes out with a 17 Hornet round. I don't need a 17 Hornet but if the ammo comes down in price it will be more tempting.

j1
November 9, 2012, 11:58 AM
Once you have the brass it takes so little powder that it is almost silly. I get 650 loads per pound of powder in my Hornet.

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