Is Breakfree CLP really sufficient?


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kazaam
September 20, 2012, 11:47 AM
It just seems too...easy. How do you guys feel about this product?

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Omaha-BeenGlockin
September 20, 2012, 11:56 AM
Use it for everything unless the copper fouling gets too bad--then the Sweets 7.62 comes out

benEzra
September 20, 2012, 12:00 PM
It was designed to simplify logistics, as a "good enough" lubricant that is also a "good enough" cleaner and a "good enough" protectant. By all accounts it is pretty good at all three roles.

There are individual products that are somewhat better lubricants, somewhat better cleaners, and somewhat better protectants, but the difference probably doesn't matter for most users.

I can't stand the smell of Breakfree CLP, though. So I use separate products, just my preference.

JTQ
September 20, 2012, 12:08 PM
I love CLP's. BreakFree is one of the good ones. It's not my favorite, but I like it. There are so many great products available you can pick whatever meets your needs. I like non-toxic, non-foul smelling, CLP's.

Kyle M.
September 20, 2012, 12:08 PM
It's expensive but it works and it works good breakfree and good ol' hoppes No.9 is all I use in my guns.

kazaam
September 20, 2012, 12:17 PM
I love CLP's. BreakFree is one of the good ones. It's not my favorite, but I like it. There are so many great products available you can pick whatever meets your needs. I like non-toxic, non-foul smelling, CLP's.
Can you please recommend one of the aforementioned products? :)

Drail
September 20, 2012, 12:31 PM
Your parents paid a whole bunch of tax dollars to procure this for the D.O.D. and amazingly, in this case they got more than they paid for. When most of the companies read the proposed requirements for a single product that would clean lube and protect they said it was not possible. Breakfree's formula actually exceeded the Mil specs. I have been using it on heavy use competition guns for 25 years and it really does do all three. I have never had a gun rust using just CLP. At the end of a long range day of 1000 rounds the barrel and rails still had CLP on them when I broke it down and all the nasty stuff came right off after soaking in CLP for 5 min. I had some Marine buddies who would "appropiate" 1 gal. jugs of CLP for our shop. They said it works on everything from small arms to artillery and Naval guns. You can pay more but you won't get better specs.

Bozwell
September 20, 2012, 12:38 PM
Nothing wrong with using CLP. I think it's just an antiquated notion that cleaning your guns has to be difficult. I tend to use Ballistol on just about everything these days, but honestly, any of the modern cleaning products will work just fine if you do your part.

valnar
September 20, 2012, 12:45 PM
Weapon Shield (http://www.steelshieldtech.com/mainpage/retail-product-weapon-shield.html) is my favorite CLP. Other than an occasional copper cleaner or grease for slide rails, it's all I use.

Drail
September 20, 2012, 12:52 PM
You greaser.

Kiln
September 20, 2012, 12:58 PM
For most of my firearms I field strip them, clean them with hoppes, and then grease them with a little Rig Gun Grease. The exterior gets a light coat of oil.

Revolvers and my MK3 get a quick flush with break free and then I wipe down the exterior with a light oil. This is because I'm lazy and hate taking revolvers and the Ruger MK3 apart. This method seems to work fine for me.

Derek Zeanah
September 20, 2012, 01:13 PM
It was designed to simplify logistics, as a "good enough" lubricant that is also a "good enough" cleaner and a "good enough" protectant. By all accounts it is pretty good at all three roles.

There are individual products that are somewhat better lubricants, somewhat better cleaners, and somewhat better protectants, but the difference probably doesn't matter for most users.
Nailed it. I buy it by the case, if that tells you anything about my feelings. There are better products out there, certainly. But it's sufficient as an all-in-one for most of us, most of the time.

joecil
September 20, 2012, 01:42 PM
I have used it for years and have never had a problem with rust or lack of lube with any gun. Now I also use Tetra Grease on some parts such as slides on a auto loader or on the cylinder pins on revolvers or lever slides on rifles etc. I do use Hoppes # 9 though for bore cleaning.

I do not use anything but Balistol on my black powder guns however or a home made mix when I can't get it. I still use CLP though on the out side of even those guns.

481
September 20, 2012, 02:11 PM
BF CLP does well enough for it's multi-tasking nature- I've used it without a problem and would again if need be. Of course, if a slightly thicker lubricant is needed, BF LP is a good choice, too.

2wheels
September 20, 2012, 03:01 PM
It's pretty much all I use for basic cleaning and lubrication.

Sky
September 20, 2012, 03:07 PM
Originally Posted by benEzra
It was designed to simplify logistics, as a "good enough" lubricant that is also a "good enough" cleaner and a "good enough" protectant. By all accounts it is pretty good at all three roles.

There are individual products that are somewhat better lubricants, somewhat better cleaners, and somewhat better protectants, but the difference probably doesn't matter for most users.

Nailed it. I buy it by the case, if that tells you anything about my feelings. There are better products out there, certainly. But it's sufficient as an all-in-one for most of us, most of the time.

^^^^YEP^^^^^

The Lone Haranguer
September 20, 2012, 03:14 PM
I don't use it in the aerosol cans as a cleaner, but do like it in the little squeeze bottles for lubing specific points. Even after several hundred rounds fired in a session there is still some film of lube visible, so it has pretty good "staying power."

srtolly
September 20, 2012, 04:10 PM
I've been using Breakfree CLP since the 80s and will continue to. Never had a rust problem while using it, cleaning after a range trip is easier. I do use Hoppes #9 for bore cleaning on my milsurp stuff and a foaming bore cleaner but after it clean I gets Breakfree.

Shipwreck
September 20, 2012, 04:24 PM
Damn, is this thread on every forum? :scrutiny:

DanTheFarmer
September 20, 2012, 04:41 PM
Don't forget that you can use Breakfree CLP on nickle plated parts while you need to stay away from ammonia based cleaners for them.

I use CLP most of the time on most things and bring out the "heavy duty" cleaners once in a while.

Dan

kazaam
September 20, 2012, 04:53 PM
So can I just buy Ballistol (a CLP) and use it to clean the whole thing? Sounds fine in theory:

Spray inside, clean it out, spray on a cloth and rub the outside, everything's good? So just Ballistol, a bore brush, an old tooth brush and some cotton swabs/rags? And grease on the rails.

ouzelfalls
September 20, 2012, 05:00 PM
Hoppe's 9 seems to be working well for me when cleaning bores and a little on a patch to go over all other visable parts. When I need a spray, I use a spray can of electronics cleaner, then use an air can to blow the spray out and to dry it out. Been using Mobil 1 Synthetic trans oil to go over the metal parts after cleaning and a very light coating of regular hi-temp grease on rails. You can spend alot on cleaning chemicals. I think keeping things simple works for me.

Bozwell
September 20, 2012, 05:04 PM
The short answer is yes. Occasionally, for really nasty fouling in the barrel you might need to resort to a specialized cleaner, but other than that, you're good to go.

LeonCarr
September 20, 2012, 05:13 PM
Yes, for everything except really heavy copper fouling, BreakFree CLP is Da Bomb.

I use Barnes CR-10 or Sweets 7.62 for the really heavy copper fouling.

Ed's Red works well and is really cheap to make, but the great (to me) smell and multipurpose effectiveness of BreakFree is very tough to beat.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

EddieNFL
September 20, 2012, 06:50 PM
It was designed to simplify logistics, as a "good enough" lubricant that is also a "good enough" cleaner and a "good enough" protectant.

Jack of all trades, master of none.

I like it for travel.

kazaam
September 20, 2012, 06:50 PM
If you had to buy one cleaner and one lubricant, what would those be?

JTQ
September 20, 2012, 07:01 PM
Can you please recommend one of the aforementioned products?
I'm currently using SLIP 2000. Non-toxic, practically no smell, and you don't have to shake it up. Hilton Yam recommended against using BreakFree because you need to shake it up to get the Teflon into solution. I thought he was over thinking this until I started using BreakFree in a clear bottle. He's right, you do have to shake it quite a bit (a lot more than you'd ordinarily think) to get the stuff off the bottom of the bottle and into solution. SLIP seems to stay around on the parts a little longer too.

http://www.10-8performance.com/pages/1911-User's-Guide.html

I haven't tried them, but WeaponShield as previously mentioned is from the same guy that brought us FP-10. Apparently it is a better product than FP-10. Frog Lube also sounds like something I'd like.
So can I just buy Ballistol (a CLP) and use it to clean the whole thing? Sounds fine in theory:

Spray inside, clean it out, spray on a cloth and rub the outside, everything's good? So just Ballistol, a bore brush, an old tooth brush and some cotton swabs/rags? And grease on the rails.
I've used Ballistol and it does work well. It has quite a unique smell, so mostly I use it for garden tools these days. Here is Hickok45 using Ballistol on one of his Glock's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZf4mUM10Vc

BYJO4
September 20, 2012, 07:05 PM
I've been using Breakfree for 4 or 5 years now and think it does an excellent job.

k_dawg
September 20, 2012, 07:15 PM
I have always preferred a seperate cleaner from the lubricate/protect.

"You can have my Hoppes #9 when you prey this bottle from my cold dead fingers!" :neener:

HOOfan_1
September 20, 2012, 07:53 PM
So can I just buy Ballistol (a CLP) and use it to clean the whole thing? Sounds fine in theory:


Ballistol has worked better for me at removing carbon and powder residue than Hoppes 9 and Outers cleaning solvent.

Just let the Ballistol sit for about an hour and it cleans right out. It does pretty good at removing copper also. I like Wipeout to REALLY remove the copper though

wally
September 20, 2012, 08:02 PM
Yes.

Although I prefer cheaper solvents for cleaning, been using CLP for lube and rust prevention for about 30 years and never a problem.

meanmrmustard
September 20, 2012, 08:15 PM
Safari Land CLP. Nuff said.

Rinspeed
September 20, 2012, 08:18 PM
I used Breakfree CLP for many many years until I found FP-10 and now Weapon Shield. For rails especially on the Sigs I'm a big fan of Brian Enos's Slide-Glide.

ohwell
September 20, 2012, 08:44 PM
I use Outers Trilube doesnt have that nasty smell Breakfree clp has.

meanmrmustard
September 20, 2012, 08:50 PM
I use Outers Trilube doesnt have that nasty smell Breakfree clp has.
Breakfree has a smell? Used it for years, never noticed an odor?

atblis
September 20, 2012, 09:12 PM
Breakfree has a smell? Used it for years, never noticed an odor?
Doesn't taste very good either.

holdencm9
September 20, 2012, 10:37 PM
I love Breakfree CLP.

Like others have said, it works good enough for just about everything, and is cheap.

I use Hoppe's #9 for some of the more stubborn stuff though, and have a few alternative lubes I use from time to time, including hoppe's dri-lube for the 10/22 and Outers for certain applications.

I also never notice a smell with breakfree. Neither does the wife. Hoppe's is quite smelly though! She notices that.

shootniron
September 20, 2012, 10:52 PM
I like it and use a lot of it. Does a very good job for me.

Ehtereon11B
September 21, 2012, 05:01 AM
I use Breakfree when I don't want/need to get out my really good cleaner (G96). Breakfree CLP smells really close to the military issue kind so it is a little nostalgia for me. It is cheaper than my G96 and does a decent job for light cleanings. My only beef is its messy to cleanup compared to mil CLP and G96.

NWCP
September 21, 2012, 05:16 AM
It's the only lube I have used for the past 4 years or so now. The only other lube I use is a good gun grease and for certain applications I'll use a teflon based dry lube that Dupont puts out. Break Free CLP works great IMHO.

meanmrmustard
September 21, 2012, 07:10 AM
Doesn't taste very good either.
You just couldn't help trying it, could you!

Rinspeed
September 21, 2012, 07:17 AM
and for certain applications I'll use a teflon based dry lube that Dupont puts out





After I clean the inside of my mags I give them a little shot of dry Teflon lube and it works great.

Nicky Santoro
September 21, 2012, 10:02 AM
Is Breakfree CLP really sufficient?

It has always performed satisfactorily for me.

kokapelli
September 21, 2012, 10:02 AM
I used Brakefree and thought it did a pretty good job until I discovered "Gunzilla" which IMO is hands down the best CLP out there.

http://www.gunzilla.us/test.htm

By the way, I only used dry lube on my pocket guns until I found Gunzilla.

hentown
September 21, 2012, 01:36 PM
Breakfree CLP is grossly inferior as a lubricant, to Mobil 1. I use Mobil 1 for lubing. I use a variety of solvents for cleaning.

MTMilitiaman
September 21, 2012, 01:43 PM
Our military runs like a well oiled machine because it is. CLP is that oil.

If it can keep the M16 running, and it can, then it is alright in my book.

meanmrmustard
September 21, 2012, 02:01 PM
Breakfree CLP is grossly inferior as a lubricant, to Mobil 1. I use Mobil 1 for lubing. I use a variety of solvents for cleaning.
You use solvent in your car?

Carne Frio
September 21, 2012, 02:06 PM
When I ran low on Breakfree CLP, I tried
Gunzilla. It smells better, is less toxic and
cleans and lubes just fine. Don't have a
rust problem, so I can't comment on that.

easyg
September 21, 2012, 07:48 PM
Breakfree CLP works fine for me.

Sky
September 21, 2012, 09:06 PM
FROM PLATING TO FIREARMS

Don Yoder developed BREAK-FREE in 1973 when he was running a
hard-anodizing and nickel plating operation where the constant
presence of sulfuric acid fumes caused rapid corrosion of metal.
Based on his extensive practical background in aeronautics and
oceanography applications for, Yoder wanted a product that would
be a superior lubricant and rust inhibitor, would penetrate to
the base metal and would last a long time. In addition, it had to
be safe both for the user and the environment. In his laboratory,
Yoder discovered that his combination of ingredients delivered
the performance he wanted only after they were combined, while
the individual ingredients by themselves did not. The synergism
is what makes BREAK-FREE CLP the effective product that it is.


MILITARY REQUIREMENTS

To increase reliability and performance to reduce misfires
and malfunctions in various military weapons, the U.S. Army
issued in 1971 a "purchase description"--PD-48-- listing the
performance properties of a single, multi-purpose product to
clean, lubricate and protect weaponry. These included, in broad
terms, the following requirements:

1. It must easily remove firing residue, carbon
deposits and other contaminants during the
cleaning process, and prevent the rapid buildup of
subsequent deposits during firing which cause
malfunctions and weapon failure.

2. It must lubricate moving parts, including those
which bear a heavy load, and it must continue to
lubricate over long periods of time and use. At
the same time it must not be sticky or greasy so
as to attract dust, sand or dirt which would cause
malfunctions. As a weapons lubricant it must
function under all conditions - extreme heat or
cold, in mud, water, dust, etc.

3. As a corrosion preventative it must protect the
weapon and preserve it in a "grab-and-go"
condition in all climatic conditions - high
humidity, rain, snow, etc., and it must protect
the weapon against corrosion in field use, even in
extreme conditions such as salt water
environments.

The requirements were so severe that PD-48 became known as
the "impossible specification," and from 1971 nothing was found
to come even close to meeting its requirements, until BREAK-FREE
CLP was introduced.

The U.S. Military began testing BREAK-FREE CLP in 1976 and
for almost three years it carried out test after test in the
laboratories and in the field on weapons of all types from the
M16 rifle to 8 inch artillery howitzers, until finally, in 1979,
it was completely satisfied that BREAK-FREE CLP not only met the
"impossible specification," but even exceeded its requirements.

Works pretty good for a do everything lube

JohnBiltz
September 22, 2012, 05:16 AM
Is Breakfree CLP sufficient?

Sufficient for what? That is the question. To keep your gun running in field conditions, I'd say it is a good choice. Sufficient to be the only thing you ever use on it for the life of the gun that sees heavy use, I'd think you want something that does a number on copper fouling like Hoppe's 9 every now and then.

My honest opinion is most people over think solvents and lubricants.

meanmrmustard
September 22, 2012, 06:39 AM
What is all this jazz about Breakfree smell? I've used it for over a decade. There's no smell!

Bore butter? Now, that smells!

HOOfan_1
September 22, 2012, 09:30 AM
What is all this jazz about Breakfree smell? I've used it for over a decade. There's no smell!


I think it has a rather potent smell...but I love the smell of Breakfree in the morning.....it smells like.......guns

After I finish cleaning my guns, I usually take a cleaning patch, soak it in breakfree and coat all of the steel parts with it, even the nitride finish on my pistols, not only does it prevent rust, it also makes them look better IMO.

I have grown to like the smell of Ballistol as well.

meanmrmustard
September 22, 2012, 09:35 AM
I think it has a rather potent smell...but I love the smell of Breakfree in the morning.....it smells like.......guns

After I finish cleaning my guns, I usually take a cleaning patch, soak it in breakfree and coat all of the steel parts with it, even the nitride finish on my pistols, not only does it prevent rust, it also makes them look better IMO.

I have grown to like the smell of Ballistol as well.
I guess I'm immune. I just wiped down my AK bolt with it and it doesn't smell! What is wrong with me?!?

kokapelli
September 22, 2012, 09:39 AM
Is there a specialist for smell impaired people?

meanmrmustard
September 22, 2012, 09:45 AM
Is there a specialist for smell impaired people?
Ear/nose/throat doctor I believe. But, I still think its amazing I've read several posts commenting on its smell, where I alone find it has none. I'm a rare bird.

Trent
September 22, 2012, 09:45 AM
How in the hell can you guys NOT notice a smell with Breakfree CLP???! That stuff REEKS.

meanmrmustard
September 22, 2012, 09:57 AM
How in the hell can you guys NOT notice a smell with Breakfree CLP???! That stuff REEKS.
Like? Guess I got lucky, none that I can recollect smells! It works great, I use it extensively, and yet I just whiffed it and it doesn't flipping smell! WTH is wrong with me!!!!

On a more "on topic" note: My Sig 522 came with a small tube of white grease that I've been using on semi BCGs and such.

Miked7762
September 22, 2012, 03:33 PM
But, I still think its amazing I've read several posts commenting on its smell, where I alone find it has none.

It may be due to the different forms of Break-Free CLP people are using. With the bottle I don't detect any particular smell. But from the aerosol cans, which contain a great deal more solvent, there is an odor I can pick up halfway across the room.

I think that's also why some people find that CLP disappears relatively quickly while others claim it stays in place indefinitely. The extra solvent in the aerosol can makes it appear that more oil is present than is actually there, and once that solvent evaporates there is much less oil left than would be expected.

Buck13
September 22, 2012, 05:59 PM
Is there a specialist for smell impaired people?

Proctologist. As a career.

meanmrmustard
September 22, 2012, 06:18 PM
Proctologist. As a career.
If it don't stink, don't fix it.

meanmrmustard
September 22, 2012, 06:19 PM
It may be due to the different forms of Break-Free CLP people are using. With the bottle I don't detect any particular smell. But from the aerosol cans, which contain a great deal more solvent, there is an odor I can pick up halfway across the room.

I think that's also why some people find that CLP disappears relatively quickly while others claim it stays in place indefinitely. The extra solvent in the aerosol can makes it appear that more oil is present than is actually there, and once that solvent evaporates there is much less oil left than would be expected.
I use aerosol primarily. No smell.
We've concluded it's me, however, that is the variable.
Can't help it, it's a great product.

Bovice
September 23, 2012, 10:48 AM
CLP doesn't adequately clean the bore over time, so for that purpose, it sucks. I wouldn't count on it to lube anything but ARs that like thin and runny lube, but Hoppes oil does that job better.

So no. CLP alone is not sufficient for long term use if you don't want a mess of a gun afterwards.

HOOfan_1
September 23, 2012, 12:07 PM
CLP doesn't adequately clean the bore over time, so for that purpose, it sucks. I wouldn't count on it to lube anything but ARs that like thin and runny lube, but Hoppes oil does that job better.

So no. CLP alone is not sufficient for long term use if you don't want a mess of a gun afterwards.

Hmm I've got 2000 rounds through my FNP-40 using only CLP as a lube... not 1 single failure yet, and the gun still looks like it did after my first range session, no more wear marks anywhere.

I have 1400 rounds through my Glock 19 using only CLP as lube...only failure with it was with underpowered hand loads. Other than a slight wear line on the barrel hood, it looks the same as it did when I took it off the shelf at the store.

I don't use it to clean my bores though. I use Ballistol for that, and it workes better than Hoppes.

kazaam
September 23, 2012, 12:15 PM
So you use Ballistol and breakfree? Interesting. I'm gonna try only Ballistol for a while.

meanmrmustard
September 23, 2012, 12:35 PM
Hmm I've got 2000 rounds through my FNP-40 using only CLP as a lube... not 1 single failure yet, and the gun still looks like it did after my first range session, no more wear marks anywhere.

I have 1400 rounds through my Glock 19 using only CLP as lube...only failure with it was with underpowered hand loads. Other than a slight wear line on the barrel hood, it looks the same as it did when I took it off the shelf at the store.

I don't use it to clean my bores though. I use Ballistol for that, and it workes better than Hoppes.
I use anything with Ammonia D in it.

HOOfan_1
September 23, 2012, 01:05 PM
So you use Ballistol and breakfree? Interesting. I'm gonna try only Ballistol for a while.

I like to give a bunch of different things a try. I may try Gunzilla and PF-10 next

I've used Outers and Hoppes #9 as bore cleaners. I tried Hoppes Benchrest Coppers solvent...after I tried Wipe Out foaming cleaner though, I completely gave up on Hoppes Copper Solvent.

I mostly used CLP as lube for my AR-15 and my auto pistols, as well as a rust prevention to wipe down my guns. I use Ballistol to spray down the slides of my autos to clean off the powder residue. I also spray the barrel inside and out and let it sit for an hour, clean out the bore, spray in some wipeout, then finish cleaning with Ballistol. I shied away from using CLP in the bores because people said the Teflon in it would do damage (I am sure this is just internet exaggeration) but I found Ballistol to work really well, and I think it is safer for my skin etc. than CLP.

kazaam
September 23, 2012, 01:20 PM
Yes i am only considering non-toxic formulations now after doing some research. Seems like my choices are ballistol, weaponshield, frog lube, eezox, and slip 2000. Problem is that every one except for ballistol is pretty expensive, so ill probably just get ballistol.

kokapelli
September 23, 2012, 01:26 PM
Yes i am only considering non-toxic formulations now after doing some research. Seems like my choices are ballistol, weaponshield, frog lube, eezox, and slip 2000. Problem is that every one except for ballistol is pretty expensive, so ill probably just get ballistol.
Gunzilla is by far the most non toxic CLP available and IMO the best all around cleaner of any of them. I rarely need to use a bore brush since I started using it.

Take a minute and check out their website.
http://www.gunzilla.us

JTQ
September 23, 2012, 01:59 PM
kazaam wrote,
Seems like my choices are ballistol, weaponshield, frog lube, eezox, and slip 2000.
I've seen lots of good comments about, Eezox, but being non-toxic is not one of them. It may be non-toxic, but you may want to confirm that before you buy.

Problem is that every one except for ballistol is pretty expensive, so ill probably just get ballistol.
It depends on what you consider expensive, and how much you plan on using to clean your pistol. My guess is you could get over a year's worth of gun cleaning with a 4oz bottle of any of those products and that would only cost you about $10.

C0untZer0
September 23, 2012, 03:24 PM
A: Yes

kazaam
September 23, 2012, 05:26 PM
I've seen lots of good comments about, Eezox, but being non-toxic is not one of them. It may be non-toxic, but you may want to confirm that before you buy.


It depends on what you consider expensive, and how much you plan on using to clean your pistol. My guess is you could get over a year's worth of gun cleaning with a 4oz bottle of any of those products and that would only cost you about $10.
Hmm, looks like you are correct, eezox is NOT non-toxic.

Ehtereon11B
September 23, 2012, 05:33 PM
I didn't notice the smell of Breakfree CLP until I started using G96 gun treatment. G96 smells like vanilla almost. I suppose when you use anything for a prolonged period of time you don't notice. With how often I cleaned my weapons during OEF my room smelt like CLP all the time and didn't notice after a few weeks.

dragon813gt
September 23, 2012, 05:55 PM
Call me old school. But I prefer to use Hoppes #9 and Rem Oil. I don't run any semiautomatic rifles larger than a .22. I tried BreakFree and it's still in my cleaning box. But I just don't like using it as it doesn't clean as well and I don't think it protects enough. I had rust start to form when it wasn't before when I switched to it for a little bit. I live in a rather humid climate in the summer.


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RinkRat
September 24, 2012, 02:04 AM
The three major food groups of a healthy firearm are :p

to oil what rotates and to protect = Safariland Breakfree CLP < just gave it a sniff ... I smell nothing

to clean = Hoppes #9 < cleans off gunk great and now this ... I smell something

to grease what slides = Loctite Copper-Based Anti-Seize Lub < just like Bryl-creem and Dapper Dan Promade ... a little dab will do ya

like my Dad and his Dad before him always said; nothing like the smell of a Hoppes cleaned gun and old money :rolleyes:

JTQ
September 24, 2012, 07:01 AM
Since I see from another thread you are looking for a Sig pistol, you may want to read this "How to Lube your Sig". It is often linked by forum moderator 9mmepiphany.


http://www.apextactical.com/blog/index.php/random-apex/lubrication-of-sig-sauer-pistol-rails/

squid841
October 11, 2012, 04:01 PM
Thanks Folks, I just shot about 200~250 rounds of 9 mm and .40 cal, all reloads. The 9mm was using bullseye powder, the .40 cal were factory reloads.
I had a hard time getting a patch to come out clean after repeated attempts with rem oil, and other brands. I;m at work now, and suffer from CRS. I am going to try all the brands listed here

BTW, I'm a new member, and my son does my re-loading for me. Damn! I raised a good son. Hey, my Daughter is no slouch either.

243winxb
October 11, 2012, 10:55 PM
http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n420/joe1944usa/Firearms%20%20and%20%20Reloading/BreakFreeCLP.jpg http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n420/joe1944usa/Firearms%20%20and%20%20Reloading/BreakFreeCLP01.jpg No more CLP for me. The cylinder on my S&W 337PD has always turned hard. Not free and loose like others. So a drop of CLP was applied now and then. Never seemed to help. Cleaning the area with hoppe's no 9 solvent, keeps bring out this pasty looking stuff. Having 2 bottles of CLP, i go to pour the older into the newer bottle. The same pasty grease is inside the neck of both bottles. After shaking the bottle, it still remains. I know from years of use that CLP will build up like dried heavy oil. So any excess is wiped off. CLP may still be good for long term storage, but will not be used as a lube on my firearms again. Always remove CLP from the bore before firing. Teflon does not work well at high temperatures.

texagun
October 12, 2012, 08:59 AM
I know from years of use that CLP will build up like dried heavy oil.

That's been my experience too. I've used Breakfree CLP since it came out a few decades ago and the only downside is, if you lube up your guns for long term storage, then take them out of the safe after a year or two, you will find that the CLP has hardened into a "dry heavy oil". The stuff is almost like a coat of varnish, requiring a lot of solvent and scrubbing to remove it. For short-term use between range trips, it works fine. I've started to use Weapon Shield and Eezox for long-term storage.

kokapelli
October 12, 2012, 09:09 AM
Has anyone tried and not liked Gunzilla CLP?

I just can't find any CLP that does a better job of cleaning and lubing than Gunzilla.

DM~
October 12, 2012, 10:54 AM
Is Breakfree CLP really sufficient? It just seems too...easy. How do you guys feel about this product?

I've been using it in all of my guns for many MANY years, from above the artic circle hunting in Alaska, even in the winter, to the heat of the desert of Texas, and every place that i've hunted inbetween, incdluding the costal temporate rainforest!

I have nothing but GOOD things to say about Break Free!!

DM

MrDig
October 12, 2012, 11:37 AM
This link about corrosion tests http://www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.html was posted in this thread
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=680878
So I think it is relevant to this thread as well. CLP is clearly not the top performer but it is a good solid product. One I use and will continue to recommend

Dr.Rob
October 12, 2012, 07:59 PM
I use CLP in my range bag.. Ed's Red for 'serious cleaning' and Hoppe's #9 if 1 and 2 don't work. Hoppes is a good copper solvent.

CLP makes a nice lube and that film it leaves is the lube part. I lube my AR with it when I'm done cleaning.

1SOW
October 14, 2012, 01:00 AM
If you had to buy one cleaner and one lubricant, what would those be?
Hoppe's & Mobil 1 Full synthetic

CLP is a great penetrating oil with good features. Excellent for penetrating into pistol actions' small moving parts.
Grease is probably best for "Aluminum" sliding surfaces to reduce wear.
Militec-1 is a good "dry lube" for hot sufaces like semi auto bbls in dirty environments.

Mobil1 has cleaning agents, withstands heat and cold, disperses well and provides a slightly heavier lubrication quality.

Hoppe's cleans better than any of the above.

Almost all will work just fine with reasonable cleaning and care.

GLOOB
October 14, 2012, 03:17 AM
Fer gosh safe, 243. You don't have to douse your guns in it. Enough to get it into the crevices is all, and wipe away any excess. After running a CLP patch, I run a dry patch once or twice.

I use a little transparent bottle for my CLP, and I see a little of the teflon residue settling in the corner. It does eventually go back into suspension if you shake it once in awhile. If you have that much crud collecting in your bottle, I wonder if you're shaking it before use, like you're supposed to.

Any grease or oil worth a darn will dry and harden if you leave your guns bathed in it.

coyotemoon
October 14, 2012, 08:49 PM
So can I just buy Ballistol (a CLP) and use it to clean the whole thing? Sounds fine in theory:

Spray inside, clean it out, spray on a cloth and rub the outside, everything's good? So just Ballistol, a bore brush, an old tooth brush and some cotton swabs/rags? And grease on the rails.
Yup Ballistol is the best thing going, been using it for hmmmmm don't know how many years.

XD 45acp
October 15, 2012, 09:17 PM
G-96

Jaymo
October 15, 2012, 10:01 PM
I use Ballistol on my blackpowder guns. I use it on my Parkerized guns, too.

The newer bottle of Break Free CLP that I have doesn't have that nice CLP aroma that I love.
It also doesn't seem to have the Teflon content of the older CLP.
No matter how much I shake it, it's clear as water when it comes out of the bottle.

My older CLP and my bottle of Tri Flow both have that nice smell and Teflon content.

Wanna talk about a lube that STINKS??
That would be Tetra Gun. Fantastic oil for steel on steel, but it smells funny.

orionengnr
October 16, 2012, 09:37 PM
In the last two years, I have been happy with Ed's Red.

Buzznrose
October 16, 2012, 10:41 PM
Yup Ballistol is the best thing going, been using it for hmmmmm don't know how many years.
Agree. Ballistol is basically all I use as well. Spray it on, let it soak in for a bit, and after a while, your gun metal seems to get a kind of "seasoned" finish that resists carbon. I use both spray and the liquid.

I do use a light dab of shooters choice grease to lube the rails every so often.

colorado_handgunner
October 20, 2012, 09:28 PM
New convert from Hoppe's and Rem oil. Break Free is far superior. I think I will still use Hoppe's for fouled bores though.

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kokapelli
October 20, 2012, 10:40 PM
New convert from Hoppe's and Rem oil. Break Free is far superior. I think I will still use Hoppe's for fouled bores though.

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I converted from Breakfree to Gunzilla because it is such a good bore cleaner.

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Drail
October 20, 2012, 11:32 PM
There is Breakfree CLP and then there's everything else.

hardluk1
October 21, 2012, 02:17 PM
Been useing breakfree clp for 38 years and never had issues with it. Grew up hunting in s fl swamps and did not have rust there ether . Hunted in rain and also way north canada deer hunting. Just no problems . Like some others wipe well as it still leaves a well lubed product. makes a good all purpose lube perservitive and good basic cleaner. I us KG-12 now for hard end of year cleaning.

floydster
October 23, 2012, 12:40 PM
When I leave for the office in the morning, I go down to the gun room and put a drop of Breakfree behind each ear---works for me.

Morgan8119
October 23, 2012, 01:27 PM
Of all the common products at wal-mart BF CLP is probably the best.

Okiegunner
October 23, 2012, 11:44 PM
1SOW...

Could not agree more. Just a little variation for me.

Hoppe's #9, then Royal Purple synthetic motor oil.

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