..so for small cases, I tried to keep the number of inventory choices of powder that I have on hand -low, but inventories at my LG stores are spotty and I cannot always find the single powder I prefer or the next best one I prefer. Unfiortunately, I am up to 4 different powders for small cases but I still only have two different powders for large cases.
I don't like hazmat fees, so when I can, I buy locally. Even with big-box stores from the Net, the choices are often limited and you end up buying what is available. Powder Valley was recently out of the 3 choices I have been working with and I had to buy a new and different choice that I have never used before.
Is this typical or have I gone mad with too many powders?
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September 21, 2012, 02:21 PM
More than I should.
I have given up with local gun stores. They never have the powders I want at any price.
I figure a $200 or so order will spread the hazmat fee out enough. Frequently you can buy primers and powder on the same hazmat fee. Besides, delivered direct to your door. No time or gas expended running all over town.
Or I buy at gun shows. Vendors there usually have a good selection at acceptable prices.
September 21, 2012, 02:23 PM
I currently reload for only four calibers (10mm, .45 Auto, .223, and .308), and I have about 14 different powders.
Van Gogh had lots of paintbrushes. :)
September 21, 2012, 02:23 PM
I use 2 powders for two gauges in shotgun and 4 cartridges in handgun. Rifle powders, unfortunately, are more specific as I have a small bore, medium bore, and a magnum medium bore - so one for each
September 21, 2012, 02:24 PM
You've gone mad. :)
Once I find a powder that I'll use often, I'll purchase 8 or 4# jugs and re-stock before I get too low.
I can think of ~18 different powders that I have on hand. Most rarely get used.
September 21, 2012, 02:30 PM
I use three, Red-Dot, BL-C(2) and 2400.
They'll get the lead downrange.
September 21, 2012, 02:30 PM
I've got 3 powders on hand W231, and Alliant 2400 for .44 Mag, and IMR 4350 for .375 H&H. When the 231 is gone I'll just have 2400 and 4350.
September 21, 2012, 02:36 PM
I have about 15, four of which are much more frequently used than the others. The less frequently used powders are for cartridges I shoot less frequently or for occasional experimentation in cartridges I use a lot.
I see no advantage in having fewer powders. There's always some load I haven't tried, so when I order on line I almost always order a can of something I've never used before that has been touted as good for cartridges I load. That helps spread the hazmat fee and justify placing the on-line order in the first place.
September 21, 2012, 02:39 PM
I just bought four 8# jugs of 844 @ $85 each, with no hazmat. I generally keep 30-40# each, of AA#5 for my handgun reloading and the 844 or something similar for rifle reloading.
I currently have about 40k primers in stock.
September 21, 2012, 02:50 PM
I have heard the comment that it is economical to buy powder at gun shows. Unfortunately, this is definately NOT the case at the gun shows I attend. Two weeks ago, I went to the gun show at Orange County NY w/ >200 tables.
I saw ony 1 vendor at this show that was selling powder - Alliant at $25 per pound and primers for $38 per 1K! ....same deal at the Westchester County shows that are held twice per year..... I bought NOTHING.
I can usually buy Alliant powders for $20 at LGS.
September 21, 2012, 03:03 PM
I haven't been reloading all that long so I don't have a lot of powder around. (Yet.) I got a 1# jar of 231 from my local store last March which is about half gone. I use it in .44 magnum and .357 magnum and it seems to work fine in both so when that jar runs out I'll probably get another one.
September 21, 2012, 03:11 PM
I've been using Clay's for everything (9, 40 and 45); I currently have 2 8# jugs and am looking at adding a 2nd powder but I haven't decided on which one, primarily for my 40's
September 21, 2012, 03:20 PM
......I got a 1# jar of 231 from my local store last March which is about half gone. I use it in .44 magnum and .357 magnum and it seems to work fine in both so when that jar runs out I'll probably get another one.
And add a lb of 2400 or H110 to the shopping list too. 2400 should work w/ you're standard primers. You may not want to shoot it all the time, but I bet you'll like it. :)
September 21, 2012, 03:23 PM
Well beside 8 lbs of Black powder (4 brands 2 lbs each), 1 lb Pyrodex RS I keep a number of smokeless powders on hand. I load for 9mm, 45 ACP, 45 Colt (rifle/pistol) and 45-70 rifle.
Primers I have about 30K in SP, LP, LR using mostly Winchester or CCI though I have a couple hundred Wolf also and about the same in Remington both mostly LPP.
September 21, 2012, 03:25 PM
Nah not crazy.
I have IMR4350, IMR7828, and H4895 for rifle. Then I have Unique, Titegroup and Autocomp for pistol.
September 21, 2012, 03:53 PM
One powder for the 4 calibers I reload - Win 231/HP-38 - just about all are for mid range target ammo.
September 21, 2012, 04:09 PM
I keep bullseye, Power Pistol, 2400, AA#2, and AA#5 on hand for pistol. I also have H335 on hand for 223.
Edit: I guess I should add that I used to have partial containers of Unique, 700x, 800x, H110, AA#7, AA#9, W231, and IMR3031. I did a lot of testing with some of them and others I used to use on a regular basis but quit because I found better powders for me. I gave these to a relative that was just getting into reloading and didnt have a lot of cash.
September 21, 2012, 04:18 PM
Bullseye (38 special), Unique (38 special & 44 special), HP38 (40S&W), Power Pistol (40S&W), 2400 (357mag & 44 mag), H110 (357 mag & 44 mag) about covers it.
September 21, 2012, 04:19 PM
I keep 3 for my .380-45ACP loads. Plus H110 for my .357 loads. That makes 4 pistol powders for me.
September 21, 2012, 04:27 PM
W231 for the all pistol except magnums and heavyweight 9mm. Universal for the heavyweight 9mm. H110 for magnums. And W748 for rifle. I recently bought 2400 to play around with. So I have five. I could easily drop the 2400 and Universal. But Universal works to well for my SD rounds.
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September 21, 2012, 04:46 PM
I have a bunch, but only if you count all those one pound containers that have just a couple of ounces left in the bottom from where Imloaded up some test rounds and then decided it wasn't a powder I ever needed to buy any more of.
In terms of real using quantities I keep:
AA220 Data Powder
I'm down to the last of an 8lb jug of something called "Surplus powder for 30/06 M2 ball" that I bought from River Valley Ordinance about 20 years ago. It has been one of the best powders I have ever encountered. I would LOVE to find more of this stuff!
September 21, 2012, 05:01 PM
I simplified my on hand powder selection a few years ago. Before this it was a nightmare.
Now, here's how I've done it.
Power Pistol for .38 Spl, .44 Spl, 9mm, .45acp
2400 for .357, .44 mag
Varget for .223, .22-250, .30-30 and .308 Win.
IMR4350/RL19 for .25-06, 7mm RM, .300 H&H mag.
I'm looking at RL19 as a replacement for IMR4350. Just haven't made up my mind yet. Also experimenting with RL15 to replace Varget.
But the above powders cover what I load. I buy them in 8 lb or 4 lb containers. I have no 1 lb containers anymore other then the RL stuff that I'm looking at to replace other powders.
I got rid of a lot of other powders, some good, some bad. Unique is a powder I have no ambition to ever use again. It just doesn't flow through my powder measures well.
September 21, 2012, 05:12 PM
^^ you might want to try Universal Clays then - cleaner than Unique and characteristics are VERY similar
September 21, 2012, 05:39 PM
I spent years trying to find one powder for rifles and one for hand guns. Varget, IMR-4064, and Re-15 all shot okay in my rifles but one powder always performed best in each different caliber and, sometimes, in different guns of the same caliber. I've tried the "icecream" loads, pet loads, and universal loads and none of them work. Each gun is a study in ballistics in and of itself. I keep one "go to" powder for each rifle I own. I currently load for 10 rifles in 6 calibers and keep 8 powders on hand. I'm not that good a shot with a handgun so I get by with AA#2 and AA#7.
September 21, 2012, 06:11 PM
For pistols I have: Unique, Bullseye, W231, 2400 and H110. When the H110 runs out, I prolly won't buy any more.
For rifles: H380, H4895, Varget, H414, IMR3031 and IMR 4350. When the H414 runs out, I prolly won't buy any more of that either.
September 21, 2012, 07:21 PM
I'm a bit of a powder junkie.........I have 18 rifle and 15 pistol
September 21, 2012, 08:16 PM
2 lb 231 for 9mm, I will get a 4 or 8 lb jug of this.
1lb ea Unique for 9mm and shotgun,
1lb Universal for shotgun.
1lb Longshot for shotgun
1lb ea H4895 and IMR4350 for 30-06 (the gun told me today it does not like IMR4350, so I will get more H4895, but no more 4350 unless the GF's 6.5 Swede likes it).
1 lb Pyrodex P for the .44 Rem.
1lb Black Horn for the .50 ML.
So, that's only 9. But I've only been loading for about a year.
September 21, 2012, 08:33 PM
I try to keep the different powders to a minimum and order in quantity, so I tend to stick to more versatle powders, which right now is 4: W231 for 9mm and 45 ACP; H110 for 30 Carbine; H322 for 223 Rem and 6.8 SPC; and IMR 4064 for heavier rifle calibers (308 Win., 30-30 Win. and 6.5x55). I may start loading 300 Win, Mag, so I may have to add another powder (H1000?).
Powder Valley has the best prices I can find, if ordered in 8# kegs, and ships very promptly.
September 21, 2012, 08:40 PM
I'm out of a couple..
forgot the FFF and Pyrodex
September 21, 2012, 11:59 PM
Got 7 powders on hand
September 22, 2012, 12:07 AM
red dot, blue dot, unique, power pistol, 2400, h110, AA #7, w231, imr 3031, imr 4350, imr 4895. might be forgetting a few but i think thats most of them.
September 22, 2012, 01:34 AM
Pistol loads: 4 powders (Could get by with the two VITs)
(A pistol on my "Bucket LIst" will need powder #5, Silhouette )
September 22, 2012, 01:38 AM
I do 95% of my handguns with Unique and Power Pistol.
September 22, 2012, 01:42 AM
too many. I keep trying to consolidate, then I come across somebody getting rid of powder because they're dead or done reloading and I get more powders. I even have powders I literally cannot use. h870 anyone?
September 22, 2012, 02:06 AM
Without going and counting I'm going to say 12 handgun powders and 8 rifle powders.
I use mostly 3 handgun powders, W231, W540 and W296. (HP-38, HS-6 and H110) I use mostly 2 rifle powders, H4895 and H4350 but I do use the others for caliber specific loads.
If I had to limit myself I would keep 6 powders, the 3 handgun powders I mentioned and the 2 rifle powders I mentioned plus H4198.
Red Dot 3lb
Green Dot 3lb
Blue Dot 2lb
Power Pistol 4lb
American Select 1lb
W231 / HP38 6lb
And Black Powder/Pyrodex 4lb
September 22, 2012, 08:05 AM
I tried powder reduction in the past but attempts were not successful for the following reasons:
Bullseye/Titegroup - Produce accurate loads but looking to replace with WST/Solo 1000.
Clays/N320 - Produce cleaner loads but looking to try Solo 1000 to replace both
Promo - Using Red Dot load data as indicated by Alliant, produces accurate 9mm/45ACP lead loads with lighter recoil. Very economical as 4.0 gr charge is used for 9mm 125 gr and 45ACP 200 gr bullets.
W231/HP-38 - I always have 8 pound jug on hand as it produces accurate and clean burning loads for 38 Spl/9mm/40S&W/45ACP whether jacketed/plated/lead/Moly coated lead bullets.
WSF/AutoComp - WSF is still my "go to" full-power load powder with milder recoil and prefer over HS-6. AutoComp is reported as WSF with flash suppressant.
If I could only have a few powders, it would be W231/HP-38, Promo/Red Dot and WSF.
I really like H335 for .223 and H4895 for .308.
September 22, 2012, 08:33 AM
I counted 12 on the shelf right now. About my normal variety.
September 22, 2012, 09:51 AM
Since I have tried many powders, I have quite a few "on hand", although many are not normally used. I have about 6 or 7 I have bought in quantity. I just picked up some AA 1680 at the last gun show. I had never tried it before. The results in my .22 Hornet with 40 Gr V-Max's says it's a keeper, not to mention the preliminary results with 155 Gr A-Max's in .300 BLK are very promising as well.
Walkalong you should try Lil Gun in that 22 Hornet for the best results IMHO.
I have at last count 15 different propellants on hand that I use with regularity. then there are some old ones I am meaning to try like that almost full can of Hi Vel #2 and the full can of Winchester Western 230 FP -pistol that has no lot number on the pink paper label that I found in my grandfathers old stash.:D
September 22, 2012, 11:55 AM
I have 44 powders on hand.
In the last year I have used:
45/70.......................Bullseye, Red Dot
50 CB Short.............. Bullseye, Red Dot
380 .........................Power Pistol, bullseye
45 auto rim ..............H110
32 S&W Long ..........H110
38S&W ..................Unique, Power Pistol
Within the next month I will do a lot of:
257 Roberts AI....... ...H4895
260 Rem ..................H4895
So if I use 8 powders and keep 44, the ratio is 18%
September 22, 2012, 12:08 PM
^^ you might want to try Universal Clays then - cleaner than Unique and characteristics are VERY similar
Every time I go to buy powder I try to pick up some Universal Clays to try. I swear that powder must be very popular in this area, I can never find it.
Power Pistol isn't to easy to find either, but I have better luck finding it.
September 22, 2012, 01:36 PM
I use about 5 different powders but I am Active Army in Alaska and when reloading buddies pack up and head to a new duty station I have been lucky enough to be gifted their left overs. I load for enough calibers that I will find a use. My only issue is finding someone to take my left overs. I can't take a lot of the stuff through Canada. I have a ton of magnum primers now that I need to work up some loads to use them. I have a few years to work through my stash and shoot all of my rounds, I can think of worse problems to deal with....This one is just fun....
September 22, 2012, 01:37 PM
Hmm this may take a bit,
I think thats it, I need to restock!!
September 22, 2012, 01:47 PM
I have about 12-13 on hand.
Half for rifle, Half for pistol. There is also 3 reloaders in the house for now. Were going thru them to see what we like.
So far, W-231 is a safe bet....
September 22, 2012, 01:56 PM
There's "keep" and "have on hand". The answer to the latter is "quite a few". I don't "keep" them until they've proven their worth. The "on-hand" powders were purchased in 1# quantities and are used for load development. They aren't "keepers" until I find a load using them that works well at which point I buy them in quantity.
As it stands right now, my "keepers" are Varget, IMR8208XBR, TAC, AA1680 and H4831SC on the rifle side and Unique, Clays and Power Pistol on the handgun side.
On hand, in addition to those above I have H414, BL-C-(2), Benchmark, Reloader 10X, Reloader 19, H4350, IMR4895, IMR3031, IMR4007SSC, Hunter, AA2520, AA2230, H322, H335, Supreme 780, Universal, AA#2, AA#7, H110, 2400, Herco, Bullseye, Universal, Trailboss and N340.
September 22, 2012, 02:24 PM
I have 19 powders on hand
September 22, 2012, 02:43 PM
N320 and HP38/W231 for .380/9mm/.38/.357/.45
H4895 for .32 Special
September 22, 2012, 02:59 PM
Nowadays, just 3. Unique (for 9mm plated/lead and .45acp FMJ), TG (for 9mm FMJ) and BE (for .45acp lead/plated). But, once the 12# of TG is gone it might be gone for good. BE and Unique can meet all my needs and expectations.
September 22, 2012, 09:58 PM
Don't shoot as much as I did 25-30 years ago. I reloaded shotgun then too. I mostly shoot .45 and .223 these days. As for powders I still have:
HP-38, Bullseye and Clays for the .45.
BLC-2, Varget and CFE 223 for the .223. I'll use these with my .308 too.
I still have some Green Dot for loading 12 gauge and some Win 748 also for my .308. Of course, Clays is also a shotgun powder.
September 22, 2012, 10:33 PM
The answer is...11.
BL-C(2), good loads on my 30TC, 7mm-08, and 257 Roberts
H414, good loads on my 7mm-08, fair and still tweaking 257 Roberts
Hunter, good and still tweaking on 257 Roberts, just starting with 7mm-08
No luck so far with H4350, R19, IMR4064.
I see a trend here. I'm not having luck with the extruded powders and doing o.k. with ball. The BL-C(2) is so good in the 30TC I haven't bothered to try anything else. I'm hoping that Hunter can replicate or improve upon H414 so that I can settle on just the one powder for 7mm-08 and 257 Roberts. If that works out I'll just build decent loads with the extruded powders and not replace them when they run out...until I get tempted by R17 or IMR4831 or...
Bullseye, good with 380 auto, o.k with 9mm and 45 ACP
Power Pistol, good with 9mm, o.k. with 380 auto and 45 ACP
Titegroup, good with 9mm and 45 ACP, can't easily measure for 380 with my equipment.
AA#7, o.k. with 45 ACP, not so great with 9mm
Blue Dot - loaded some 45 ACP just to have high flash.
I'm less fussy with the pistol powders, probably because any accuracy problems caused by powder/primer/bullet are overwhelmed by problems caused by the shooter!
September 23, 2012, 12:52 AM
After looking at some of you and the powders you have I will admit I was successful in trimming my supply. I don't do as many cartridges as I used to but my list for everything I reload is thus.
And I'm loading 12 different cartridges. I once counted 12 different powders that I had on hand.